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Enraya 06-14-2008 06:14 AM

The 80+ Grind
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by G1XXER
Might be a quest "fix" rollback I don't think so. This is from the GM chat so noone has to go through it to find this.

"[18:28] GM_WiLDFiRe (ucdj27): conquer700: What was the reasoning with your massive exp increase in the quests? Do you think that the increase will offset the balance of higher level players to lower levels?
We wanted to make Fiesta a more casual experience so those who simply do not have the time to commit to grinding can still keep up with their friends. Also note that 80+ is where Fiesta will begin to be "hard". The developer has decided to make the first 79 levels "easy" and the latter levels much more difficult. This is where we will begin to branch Fiesta off into more content and features."

Someone posted this here

Huh, so what do you guys think about that? o-o
With the new quest exp, it definately has become easier ...
Wonder what SKiNG meant by "hard" though o:

Hyper 06-14-2008 06:19 AM

I wouldn't necessarily say its "easy"... They haven't done it. xD Even with the new quests, 4x still requires a lot of grinding...

I'm scared for levels 53-57. ;~;

Ivramire 06-14-2008 06:23 AM

Still massively easier than before though o-o


a level in late 7x used to take 1 or 2 days of non-stop grinding if you had the best possible conditions. Now it's what? A lvl a day going casual?

booyah8876 06-14-2008 06:28 AM

Which is what he was saying...

1~79 are the easy levels...

when all the capped hit lvl 8x it's going to be a ton harder I guess.

Ivramire 06-14-2008 06:32 AM

I wonder what they mean by harder though. If they mean grinding like it was pre-monster xp boost patch (which still wasn't that bad for the last tier of the game) or just normal grinding without spammable hihg-xp repeatable quests.

Enraya 06-14-2008 06:32 AM

I think the grind right now depends on the quest ... a 1m exp reward for gathering 10 of xx isn't going to help me if xx doesn't ever drop =w=

a.L 06-14-2008 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightningmystix (Post 164987)
I think the grind right now depends on the quest ... a 1m exp reward for gathering 10 of xx isn't going to help me if xx doesn't ever drop =w=

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Hessah 06-14-2008 08:46 AM

Well we all suddenly got a massive quest EXP boost coz they implemented a lot more quest in one go...

so at lvl 65, i've got all the new quest from lvl 60-65 in one go, which probably gave me like 4.5 mil exp (about 65%)... but in reality, if those quests were already there, you'll probably get a quest that gives you 20% or so, and you've gotta grind the rest anyway

so i wouldnt say its significantly easier...

as with any game... as you get closer to the cap (watever the official cap may be) they make it harder to get to... Someone said in Runescape, it's easier to go from lvl 1 - 209 again than to go from 209 - 210... (assuming 210 was cap) Maybe that's wat he meant by harder... takes longer...

Loveless 06-14-2008 08:51 AM

^Yeah probably. It took me 6 months to get to 60 and the second time around it took me 3 months to get there. o__o So by looking at the trend it should take me... 1.5 months to get a 3rd class to 60? Lol

I was looking through the BK Wiki and their 80+ quests give like 10mil exp. But if you think about it... that probably only adds up to less than 20%? Scary~

Sinto 06-14-2008 09:09 AM

o.o Hm.. 10m exp quests at Lv80 might give around 40%+ ... Still happy for me. :D

Loveless 06-14-2008 09:19 AM

Meh, BK's exp needed to level goes up by a LOT. You though 3mil at level 60 was crazy... you get that in your 40s...

Sinto 06-14-2008 09:21 AM

OH MY GOD I think we'll be dead in BK by now.

Ivramire 06-14-2008 09:32 AM

Yeah, but though xp needed was more, you still got more than here too.


Almost balances out :)

Hyper 06-14-2008 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinto (Post 165031)
OH MY GOD I think we'll be dead in BK by now.

Mobs give like 20x the EXP though. ;o; More for a lot of mobs. And quest EXP is pretty hawt too. It's nowhere near as easy to level as this Firsta is now, though... 1-30 with only quests. <3

Ivramire 06-14-2008 03:06 PM

They must be planning to increase to cap soon if they're pushing everyone higher.


God help us if there's another lvling challenge.

Hyper 06-14-2008 03:10 PM

^Well both Sylvia and Ghostly left, so hopefully it'll be fair. xD

I'm rooting for... Someone in Teva. Although there are a lot of grinding-obsessed in Epith.

Ivramire 06-14-2008 03:14 PM

Cheaters wasn't the worst part about it. Community was devastated by the event :/

MaxOff 06-14-2008 03:23 PM

what event?:err:

Ivramire 06-14-2008 03:25 PM

The 'Legends of Isya' event, ya know, first 3 blah blah of each class and each server to get to 79 gets a (now commonplace) Blue.


Teva and Apoline were lesser servers after the event.

Hyper 06-14-2008 03:25 PM

Legends of Isya.

Darn you, lvra... xD

Ivramire 06-14-2008 03:32 PM

I'm the guy with 256kb internet, don't blame me xD


Anyway, some of the best people quit either directly or in-directly because of the event. Lots of friends too.

MaxOff 06-14-2008 03:42 PM

why should they quit because of that? :gasp:

Hyper 06-14-2008 03:45 PM

It created a lot of retarded dramas. I swear, I've never seen a community that is as dramatic, complains, or does as much bitching about others as frequently as Fiesta's does.

Ivramire 06-14-2008 03:50 PM

Indeed.


What used to be a laid-back, fun and cooperative community was torn by the mad dash to cap of a few people. The really fun people, the real personalities who stayed around to interact were ditched by friends who went off to grind.


Bad feeling over restricted grinding areas, never-before seen vindictive GWs (at least among the big guilds) scamming and plain idiocy.

MaxOff 06-14-2008 04:41 PM

that sounds like the event wasnt the source but a catalyzer. Imho the real reason was a large base of 59er who all wanted to lvl, and the grinding grounds for that lv couldnt take them at all.

So what happened was a fight over the ground u were grinding on. Of course before the cap lift, people just grinded until 59 was reached without any problem, because it happened over time.

So if u want to blame Outspark for something then for lifting the cap much too late.

Thats the reason i stay on 71, and do not try to cap. :laugh: When the cap gets lifted i can peacefully grind my way up.

Ivramire 06-14-2008 05:02 PM

Not really blaming Outspark for the event, people do what they do and there's nothing that can change that.


The event though was the beggining of the end, melodramatic as that may sound. If there wasn't the event, I really think that the game would have been a whole lot better for it.

Villi 06-14-2008 05:45 PM

i'm too lazy to read the posts...but the 'hard' part is that till now it has been easy enought for small kids, now it'll be the real game ;)

i know i'm smart :laugh: ^^

Triumph 06-14-2008 06:44 PM

Their definition of easy meant grinding out 18 million experience at level 78 for level 79? That is 18 hours worth of work amusing the game, rather than the game being amusing.

Ivramire 06-14-2008 07:12 PM

wait, it's only 18 mil o__o?


I thought I remembered it being somewhere around the 27 mark.

Triumph 06-14-2008 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lvramire (Post 165173)
wait, it's only 18 mil o__o?


I thought I remembered it being somewhere around the 27 mark.

21. 3 million reduced based on quests.

Kenaime 06-14-2008 08:51 PM

It'll be awhile b4 i even get 2 lvl 50 now that i have a job and an x-box 360
But i'll still devote my hours to Fiesta like i should

Can sum1 delete that 1st post

Ivramire 06-14-2008 09:25 PM

You can do it yourself. Go to edit ---> delete.

Hyper 06-14-2008 09:31 PM

The new quest exp is lot for 78 though. Booyah went from 77-79 in like two days...

Quote:

Originally Posted by lvramire (Post 165217)
You can do it yourself. Go to edit ---> delete.

Or I guess not...? o_O

booyah8876 06-15-2008 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperswoss (Post 165223)
The new quest exp is lot for 78 though. Booyah went from 77-79 in like two days...

Si.

At lvl 78 you get a quest called "Monster Collector 1" Which is to collect some Lizard Knight Tails...

Turn that in, and it becomes a repeatable quest worth 2,6 almost 2,7m exp "Monster Hunter 2" collecting 40 LK claws.

All you have to do is go AoE those bishes, and you're good to repeat that quest once an hour.

Hyper 06-15-2008 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booyah8876 (Post 165342)
Si.

At lvl 78 you get a quest called "Monster Collector 1" Which is to collect some Lizard Knight Tails...

Turn that in, and it becomes a repeatable quest worth 2,6 almost 2,7m exp "Monster Hunter 2" collecting 40 LK claws.

All you have to do is go AoE those bishes, and you're good to repeat that quest once an hour.

Holy... Scheiße...

OH! And why were you not on Fiesta today?! And I was! Like 4-5 hours! D< Jobs?! PFFT!

booyah8876 06-15-2008 03:09 AM

I was just online for like 2 hours.

And my job > Fiesta.

I hate stupid people is why I logged off

/writes in all the rage

Hyper 06-15-2008 03:12 AM

^Yeah, for some reason the certain members of the Army seemed to think you're gone already? D< I was like "...". Way to keep them in the loop. xD

Sorry about off-topic. So the quests apparently are making Fiesta almost grind-less. What about 53-56? Anyone in those levels know if there are many more quests? Like a LOT?

booyah8876 06-15-2008 03:14 AM

Flowersss made that thread in MoS...

check eet.

And yeah GM's said they were making the game a truly casual experience...

They don't want to make it so people have to sit in front of the computer as long as I do.

=/

EDIT:

I told them I wasn't logging back in until I was in Germany...

and I couldn't resist when I got home =x


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