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From a fiestfan mod..... Imo thats pathetic.

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I think that comment goes against almost
everything forums are for, im pretty sure u cannot control
what i say and im sure that isnt you job or perk of being an admin.
I thought the job was to moniter what i say. And u montired
my post that said the n-word . I explained it to u as well.
but u saying that is just a striaght power trip.

I am asking you to please edit the above post as you have already been warned about the use of the word, please.

I think what what meant by that comment was that we control what is posted on here, by modding it. Some people may take offense to the word, since the majority of the time it is used in a derogatory manner. I realize you were quoting something someone said, but that does not make it right to use it yourself.

but it was a song quote

You can quote the song and edit the word with no problem. People still get the point and no one can come in here and say that we allow racial slurs to be used. Given the heat of the use of that word in recent years, it is better for anyone, and anything that is open to the public to not allow that word to be used. Some people, not all, but some people MAY take it the wrong way. If we allow it this time, then what about the next time? and the next?
We have to decide what is best for the Forum, those decisions might not always be agreed upon by our members, but we make decision based on what is the best all-around for the forum, not what is best depending on how something is used or who used it.

yea but spirit u lissen to the song and like u wouldnt mind it
if it was a song u liked he likes the song and yea he forgot to
take it out i dont think u should get like yelled at about it cuz
it was a mistake im sure lots of ppl will do it in there life time

I would also like to point out, that he was warned, not infracted. Warnings simply let the user know what is acceptable. Infractions acyually have points attached to them. 3 points and it is an automatic ban. Warnings have no points attached.

im not just sticking up for him cuz i go to school with him
just to let u no i would for anyone cuz its a song not like
hes saying to somone

I'm going to leave my in-put...


The words in that song aren't exactly the kindest words to use. People can and do find them offensive and degrading. Fiestafan doesn't condone racial slurs and excessive swearing. That song had both of those.

Like Spirit said, it was only a warning. But keep it up, and you will receive infractions. We like to be everyones friend, and have it so everyone is treated equally, and yes, this is only a fansite, but we still have to run this place which means, yeah, we have rules.

As for the PM you received, maybe the wording was wrong. We're not trying to control you guys, but we're trying to keep that kind of stuff off of the forums if possible.

i agree with that to yosei its just freeking over a song i
really dont get yeah ppl put up vidoes with things saying
gay bar because me and sero r joking around wut if somone
on the site is gay and dosnt like that same with those siggys
everyone made about gay u think of the othere stuff to thats
going on

resol what I think their trying to say is...
bottom line - a racial slure was used weather it was a quote from a song or not...and it strictly just ise'nt allowed.

=X

not saying I agree for disagree with anything...but I think thats the point their trying to make. I think? :)

I might've been a little too blunt, LOL.

yeah but wut about all the gay siggys and vidoes that make
fun on gays shouldnt we talk about that to then

Are you referring to the "HardGay guy" or other stuff?

I'm not gay :blush:

My first thoughts about this were:

"This is what you get for having liberal userbase of people with conservative leaders."

Then I went to work and thought about it...

I changed my mind after thinking about your point resol...

"It's just a song."

Well songs are a form of art, and I know people hate when other people censor their art.

But some people consider taking nude photos of people an art.

What do you think would happen if you were to start posting them, and calling them art?

There's always a section where your lyrics will be appreciated, but here isn't the right place.

I personally... don't care if it's a song you're quoting.
I like to hear people speak their minds, and if it includes swearing, vulgar language, etc... I couldn't care less.

I'm thinking with the other side of the argument though which is where I came up with my conclusion =/

Booyah! 4 post from premmy!

I agree with what you said. Nude photos could be a form of "art" but some people can bend the truth a bit and call porns "art"... Where do we draw the line? Where are the admins/mods suppose to draw the line?

Some arts are 18+ (21+?) They should not be allowed here for a forum that's suppose to be PG.

But to be honest.. can u really call a song full of swearing and racist slur "art"?

Anyway. I think what each of us individually think is appropriate or not cannot represent how the general public thinks.

I'm sure our Mods and Admins are looking out for the general public. We cannot rule out the possibility that we've got some young audiences, and the parents see that the content of this forum seems reasonably and allow their kids to view this forum here.

Not all forum may consider "sensitive" materials as something that we need to be cautious of, but THIS forum does, and that's the rule. If you want to stay here, then we gotta follow their suit.

This is going to be a long post, but I hope you will read the whole thing and not just skim it.

Firstly, in reference to Rightclaw's reply, he just used incorrect wording. He doesn't actually mean to "control", we can't really "control" people here anyway. If we did, you would have seen a whole heap of certain threads deleted in the past. He also means that, though we do not have the ability to stop young viewers from seeing other "bad" things on the internet, we have the ability to stop them from viewing these "bad" things here on FiestaFan. So since we have the ability to, we want to keep FF here "clean".

Secondly, your initial post was filled with excessive swearing and profanity. Song or not, it really isn't suitable for FiestaFan. It may be alright to you, but please keep in mind there are younger kids here. I don't think I need to say much about what influence it may have on younger people.

Thirdly, in relation to seeing things as "art", people MAY actually see porn as a form of art. If they do, I am not surprised. They can argue that it's just showing a side of human nature to the public. You can almost call anything a form of "art" if you put the time to think about it and argue for it.

But, here is the problem. "Art" is extremely subjective - we all know that. Some people out there still doesn't accept nudity art, some people do. Some people may accept a song with excessive swearing and profanity, some may not. Yes, if you read it carefully, the song is just pointing out certain discrimination issues. But, have you ever wondered why some songs out there have a different radio version where swear words are censored? Why do you think they have censored it? Suppose that people who composed the song/lyrics have a very broad and acceptive perspectives of songs with swearing as a form of "art", yet they still had to censor them for several songs when it goes on radio. Why? Because they want the song to be accepted, and swearing is an unacceptable behaviour to the general public.

We are basically doing the same thing here on FiestaFan. We want FF to be acceptable by the general public. Yes, that song may be viewed as "art", but like I said, anything can be viewed as art if you argue for it. Does that mean we should allow everything to be posted on FiestaFan - porn, swear words, profanity - just because it could be seen as art?

No. FiestaFan is a fan site of a game. We are not an art forum. We are just censoring the forum by following the conventional accepted behaviour.

Just to a side note - I hope you realise that all Rightclaw censored was one word. One word. And that one word is a racial slur. Racial slurs - not allowed. Simple as that, no changing to that. It's already clearly stated in the forum rules. You could have easily taken it out or censor it when you have posted. Please keep in mind you had a LOT more profanity and swearing in that thread. But, we just removed that one racial slur.

If you (you as in, people who don't think we should have removed that one word, not you specifically mikey) argue, "it's just a song", then I can say the same back to you, "it's just a song, why make such a big issue out of it?". Keep in mind we had only given you a warning back then. A warning, not an infraction. Refer to Spirit's post earlier about warnings.

I hope this would clear things up as to what we did in removing that racial slur. To be honest, I don't really know why we had to, since I thought it was pretty clear and obvious that racial slurs are not allowed.

I never created this about what the fuck i said...
you people missed the point. what pissed me off is rightclaw
saying he can control what people say. Even from an admin on any
forums site that is pathetic. And most of u cant look past the fact
that a blakc person is using the word beep. Ill say it as i like
because i am a quarter african as some of my family is from sudan.
Go head and censor that but coming for an african canadian person..
its pathetic that u think or other people would think that the word was being
used in a derogatory way. The part of that song was to do with people
being locked up for DUMB ASS reasons. Really read it and think people.
Dont be so fucking ignorant as to just see that the word beep was used.

Read my post. I have already posted it. Several other people have already commented on his wording. I have bolded it in red for the sake of it.