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Alee 06-10-2008 10:32 AM

People who constantly ask for plvling
 
I think this might have been a subject before, not sure, but it darn right annoys me!!

OK, I'm a lv65 warrior and I hate it when people who you meet ask to be your friend, then everytime they log on asks you to plvl them... and they are like in their 40's or lower.

I fell out with a friend who constantly asked me to plvl him, I did help him loads but most of the time he wud be afk or chatting and it just felt like he was just leeching, and he wasn't reallly fun to be with, he would pout A LOT and he acted like he was 12 but he was a bit older. Maybe it didn't feel like leeching to him but it did to me. And did I mention the constant asking?? Seriously how much asking for plvling can u handle??

Now, when I was in my lower lvls I partied with ppl at my own lvl, doing quests, etc etc. I mean, don't people want to enjoy the game? Rather than just grinding all the time? And yes I did have phases of just grinding, but I hardly ever ask for plvling, I didn't know many high lvls back then, and when I make friends with them, I don't constantly ask for plvling, I mean, I would feel like I'm bothering them or something, they could be doing their lv60+ quests. Like I would be now!! THank god for them putting lvl cappped zones!!

But anyway... I now ignore random people who asks me to plvl them.
If you're too nice, they will take advantage of you.

Hope I'm not the only one who feels like this.... please tell me if I'm a bad person LOL! :laugh:

superalim 06-10-2008 10:39 AM

I don't get why people wants to plvling? When I am in a party of all my lv and a lv62 inside, everyone exp suck.

Ivramire 06-10-2008 10:40 AM

perfectly natural.


Let them do things for themselves.

Blaaaaaaaah 06-10-2008 10:40 AM

Nah you're not a bad person~

I haven't been harassed badly for plvls when I played, but I do understand how annoying it can be!~ It's like BOOO! Go level yourselves!~ :angry:

But yeah, I'd just ignore them straight away~ I'll say NU! and then ninja away so they can't find me again. :ninja:

Hessah 06-10-2008 10:43 AM

Wow you use to respond to random people asking for plvl?!?! Yes, you are too nice! HAHHA (for that matter... i TOTALLY ignore them... I dont even say no :cheeky:)

I think i've only ever plvled my guildies.. and i dont mind that coz i know they appreciate it... (and more than often they're around to play as well, not just leech)

You feel like you're being used by that guy more than being frds with him ay!

Sero 06-10-2008 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alee (Post 161610)
I think this might have been a subject before, not sure, but it darn right annoys me!!

OK, I'm a lv65 warrior and I hate it when people who you meet ask to be your friend, then everytime they log on asks you to plvl them... and they are like in their 40's or lower.

I fell out with a friend who constantly asked me to plvl him, I did help him loads but most of the time he wud be afk or chatting and it just felt like he was just leeching, and he wasn't reallly fun to be with, he would pout A LOT and he acted like he was 12 but he was a bit older. Maybe it didn't feel like leeching to him but it did to me. And did I mention the constant asking?? Seriously how much asking for plvling can u handle??

Now, when I was in my lower lvls I partied with ppl at my own lvl, doing quests, etc etc. I mean, don't people want to enjoy the game? Rather than just grinding all the time? And yes I did have phases of just grinding, but I hardly ever ask for plvling, I didn't know many high lvls back then, and when I make friends with them, I don't constantly ask for plvling, I mean, I would feel like I'm bothering them or something, they could be doing their lv60+ quests. Like I would be now!! THank god for them putting lvl cappped zones!!

But anyway... I now ignore random people who asks me to plvl them.
If you're too nice, they will take advantage of you.

Hope I'm not the only one who feels like this.... please tell me if I'm a bad person LOL! :laugh:

You're bad only cause you helped him >>; :sigh:

Buddy you wasted your time with that leech, could've spent it with me in an Abyss :sad:

Alee 06-10-2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SerodinSilver (Post 161621)
You're bad only cause you helped him >>; :sigh:

Buddy you wasted your time with that leech, could've spent it with me in an Abyss :sad:


Oh well, I learn from my mistakes :eep:

Sero 06-10-2008 10:53 AM

I know, you must've been high or drunk when that happened. Seriously. By the way... Check guild forums, get on MSN, log in Fiesta, go kill a monster and see failure.

As for that guy who you've spoiled, good thing he doesn't play anymore. And :sigh: wasteful...

Ivramire 06-10-2008 10:57 AM

Was a friend at the time, ok to help once in a while, just make sure they learn to do things themselves >.<

Flowersss 06-10-2008 12:58 PM

Thats one thing I can't stand and thats people who ask for plvl's

I too get constant whispers and pt invites...I use to kindly tell them no, but I got sick and tired of it and eventually started ignoring them.

Your not a bad person, if anyone hasn't come across this problem then their not human xD

Enraya 06-10-2008 01:54 PM

I have someone on my list who's CONSTANTLY asking for a plvl and CONSTANTLY getting one. And he's really annoying =w= I just want to whack him on the head and see what he does when he gets to 6x and there are no plvls XD
So, you are farrrrrr from being a bad person XDD

Eru 06-10-2008 02:25 PM

Coupla things.

First, @Flowersss…damn ur ava is making me *hungry*

Second, quick question: Is there a difference between plvling and leeching? And if so is plvling always bad? I’ve occasionally aoe-ptyed with a much higher lvl mage in a map that I know I couldn’t handle mobs in, and while I didn’t deal any damage I was spamming heal and restore saving them hp stones/pots. (Another difference might be that I dun always ask to do this and I have no problem grinding by myself in lvl-appropriate maps.)

Last, lol…you could always take them to a high lvl map then warp back? j/k, that’d just be mean:blush:

Blaaaaaaaah 06-10-2008 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eruantien (Post 161745)
Coupla things.

First, @Flowersss…damn ur ava is making me *hungry*

Second, quick question: Is there a difference between plvling and leeching? And if so is plvling always bad? I’ve occasionally aoe-ptyed with a much higher lvl mage in a map that I know I couldn’t handle mobs in, and while I didn’t deal any damage I was spamming heal and restore saving them hp stones/pots. (Another difference might be that I dun always ask to do this and I have no problem grinding by myself in lvl-appropriate maps.)

Last, lol…you could always take them to a high lvl map then warp back? j/k, that’d just be mean:blush:

LOL @ your ditching newbs at high levelled map plans. :cheeky:

Anyway, back to your question. Close but not quite.

Leeching is when you're in a party and you just sit there and do nothing. Your party works their asses off to get exp and things but you just sit around and twiddle your thumbs. That's leeching.

P-lvling (power-levelling) is leeching taken to a whole new level. You leech in a high levelled party where you sit there and do nothing while getting lots of exp and the high levelled people are spamming their pots away. Greater gain in this way.

Then again, plvl doesn't always have to involve the newb leeching. Like for what you did, you were responsible for healing the high levelled mage, so plvling doesn't always have to be bad if you're contributing efforts for the party.

So yeap. Leeching is bad unless your party doesn't mind it. Power levelling doesn't necessarily have to be bad but it is generally looked as bad (but again, if the person plvling you doesn't mind then it's okay of course).


:angel:

Flowersss 06-10-2008 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 161751)
LOL @ your ditching newbs at high levelled map plans. :cheeky:

Anyway, back to your question. Close but not quite.

Leeching is when you're in a party and you just sit there and do nothing. Your party works their asses off to get exp and things but you just sit around and twiddle your thumbs. That's leeching.

P-lvling (power-levelling) is leeching taken to a whole new level. You leech in a high levelled party where you sit there and do nothing while getting lots of exp and the high levelled people are spamming their pots away. Greater gain in this way.

Then again, plvl doesn't always have to involve the newb leeching. Like for what you did, you were responsible for healing the high levelled mage, so plvling doesn't always have to be bad if you're contributing efforts for the party.

So yeap. Leeching is bad unless your party doesn't mind it. Power levelling doesn't necessarily have to be bad but it is generally looked as bad (but again, if the person plvling you doesn't mind then it's okay of course).


:angel:

In this case, plvling and leeching is ok....if its ok with you.....basically?
(If that made any sense)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eruantien (Post 161745)
Coupla things.

First, @Flowersss…damn ur ava is making me *hungry*

Hotpockets are FTWage @.@ *drools*

Blaaaaaaaah 06-10-2008 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flowersss (Post 161762)
In this case, plvling and leeching is ok....if its ok with you.....basically?

If it's okay with the people you're leeching off/your powerleveller.

Sorry for the confusion. :cheeky:

Eru 06-10-2008 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 161751)
Leeching is when you're in a party and you just sit there and do nothing. Your party works their asses off to get exp and things but you just sit around and twiddle your thumbs. That's leeching.

[...]

Then again, plvl doesn't always have to involve the newb leeching. Like for what you did, you were responsible for healing the high levelled mage, so plvling doesn't always have to be bad if you're contributing efforts for the party.

mmk...I thot plvl=leech just at a higher level and that the "doing nothing" and "actively contributing" was the distinguishing factor that made it "not bad".

I admit this seems a little unfair towards other classes cause I was able to heal the mage effectively being almost 10-15 lvls lower, while other classes that far behind on that high of a map may not really do much to help?

06-10-2008 02:46 PM

dont help ppl unless u get to no them or u really need
a pt ppl cept asking me for plvl in cp so i dont go there no
more unless im plvling a good friend alt

Blaaaaaaaah 06-10-2008 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eruantien (Post 161774)
mmk...I thot plvl=leech just at a higher level and that the "doing nothing" and "actively contributing" was the distinguishing factor that made it "not bad".

I admit this seems a little unfair towards other classes cause I was able to heal the mage effectively being almost 10-15 lvls lower, while other classes that far behind on that high of a map may not really do much to help?

Yeah, it is. Clerics have it easier.

But yeah, what I said is only the general view I think. Plvl is pretty much leeching if you can't do anything. Only difference between plvl and leeching is the level of the people in your party and the level of the mobs you're training at.

Enraya 06-10-2008 03:02 PM

I find plvl useful both for me and for other people sometimes. I like to plvl friends for them to catch up, and I get plvled if I'm stuck (not anymore now though Dx) But leeching is another story. Like kt said, it's doing nothing while gaining exp, which for me takes away all the fun XD

Spirit 06-10-2008 04:25 PM

Me and a few others were on our way to Uruga when a fighter asked if he could join our party. I explained that we were working quests and he said that was okay, he just wanted the exp. So, we invite hin, thinking we could use another fighter. He won't attack anything!!!! I finally told him, help kill the mobs or I boot you. So he started helping, but meh!! I was not gonna put up with him riding on our coattails.

nekineki 06-11-2008 05:14 AM

this sounds soooo familiar........ *hovers mouse pointer over guildie's name, right clicks "Ban"* Oh crap. She's admin too >_>

I mean sheesh. She's a cleric, I'm an archer. I may be a few levels ahead of her (5 levels to be exact) but she makes it MY responsibility to power level her. She demands, yes, deamnds, to be in any 4x-6x guildie's party, fetch her, help her with her quest, let her borrow silvers, buy this for her because she doesn't have money at the moment. UBER CRAP!! I worked my ass off by grinding through levels, rarely ask my 7x mage friend (IRL friend, at that) to power level me, NEVER ask for silvers from anyone, loans doesnt work for me either because I might not be able to pay on time and such, the list goes on!

I don't mind helping but what ticked me off was when she said "Do your quests later, help me with mine first!!" and "Hurry up! What's taking you so long to get to me. Stop dilly dallying over there and help me!" . For the record I politely told her that I was on my way, on foot, finishing a few mobs along the way for a quest. I'm offering my help for free and all and she demands! DEMANDS!!

Bottomline (as I've posted on our guild's notice board): It is NEVER a highbie's responsibility to power level.

Hessah 06-11-2008 05:17 AM

its.. hardly plvling when u're only 5 lvls higher... i'll call that.. leeching...

</3 ppl that demands...

Go demand from that brick wall coz u aint getting nuthin' from meh!

viasta 06-11-2008 05:17 AM

some noobs don't even ask, instead they spam party invites and spread bad rumors about you

Sero 06-11-2008 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viasta (Post 162394)
spread bad rumors about you

ai keel dem mon.

Loveless 06-11-2008 06:20 AM

Hm... reminds of the time I was in another guild. At first I thought, sure, I'm helping out a guild member and I don't really have anything else to do. The group was healing me and helping too so that was okay.

But, I guess it's because I was the highest level, they kept on asking me to help them level. I've got levels to gain too! One time I did agree but he kept on shrooming and didn't come out in time to Heal. So many times my HP went down to below the 100s... so I got irritated and just suicided.

Random party invites are annoying too. Espeically when I'm solo AOEing. Get that damn party box out of my face!! Then there's "I only have 3%! Help me lvl pl0x!"... yeah it's only 3% so go do it yourself. Or "It's my Birthday!!" Everyday must be his friggin' birthday.

Ivramire 06-11-2008 06:42 AM

Just tell them point-blank that you're not their personal power-level service and to get off their butts and play the game for themselves.


Then warp to town.

Sero 06-11-2008 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loveless (Post 162418)
Random party invites are annoying too. Espeically when I'm solo AOEing. Get that damn party box out of my face!! Then there's "I only have 3%! Help me lvl pl0x!"... yeah it's only 3% so go do it yourself. Or "It's my Birthday!!" Everyday must be his friggin' birthday.

ROFL Yeah :cheeky:

Or some others are just plain rude and disrespectful...

When I play my fighter, I have a partner who's an archer. I'm 42, she's 44 so we quest at GC, if not duo grind at CP or Uruga. There are these times when some random people see us, come close and say "party plz". My archer then says "sorry, duo ^^;" then those people would have negative reactions like "aww u 2 suck" or "so wat duo we cn party plzzz" and many more, but it's worse if I reply cause like sometimes I say "guild duo, sorry", replies would be "i dun care pt me now" or also "were on a date dude, sorry" then the person would say "fukk u date my asss pt me".

^ At times like that I enrage at their attitudes, bring out my +6 axe [which broke already :sad:], do the Vitality skill and threaten a war. My archer giggles, and the person runs away. Ahh, problem solved, but I just can't stand those disrespectful bastards running around the game :eep:

ThievingSix 06-11-2008 07:01 AM

This is why I always solo.

Loveless 06-11-2008 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ThievingSix (Post 162477)
This is why I always solo.

Me too.

And yes, now if I'm asked to plvl I just go -right click & block-

If it's a guild member, I can just ban... -cough- :cheeky:

ThievingSix 06-11-2008 08:06 AM

*Remembers not to ask*

nekineki 06-11-2008 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah
its.. hardly plvling when u're only 5 lvls higher... i'll call that.. leeching...

</3 ppl that demands...

Go demand from that brick wall coz u aint getting nuthin' from meh!

True. I stand corrected, leeching is the correct term. Thank you Hessah^-^ And I've learned to say "No, sorry I'm busy at the moment" to her :3 She supremely doesn't like it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by viasta
some noobs don't even ask, instead they spam party invites and spread bad rumors about you

I've learned that by cancelling perty invites, they get to spam more, so it's better to let the invite be til it goes away. Wash and repeat.

Bad rumors? Wow, they haven't seen AikenRae's ugly side...yet. (and no, i'm not referring to the view of level 38 archer pants from behind) :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by lvramire
Just tell them point-blank that you're not their personal power-level service and to get off their butts and play the game for themselves.


Then warp to town.

Nuuuuu~ it's like giving other people a chance to steal my spot. Ignore, ignore, ignore, grind@@

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThievingSix
This is why I always solo.

Likewise. *solemn nod* Soloing for the win!! In my case, I'm also doing others a favor. LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loveless
If it's a guild member, I can just ban... -cough-

Wish I could do that too. Too bad she's admin. *scratches* WTH is she admin?! o.0

Dezza 06-11-2008 01:51 PM

If they ask nicely, I might party them for a bit, but when they are too lazy to spell 'please' or 'party' properly using all the letters I just ignore them, and...

Quote:

Originally Posted by nekineki (Post 162650)
I've learned that by cancelling perty invites, they get to spam more, so it's better to let the invite be til it goes away. Wash and repeat.

... press Escape and change the settings to ignore party invites until the irritating sod has gone away :cheeky:

Alee 06-11-2008 05:24 PM

I was soloing junior archons one day in uruga for my quest and a Lv 3x Cleric came and asked to party me, I thought, oh yeah, she will be able to help heal me. But she kept going afk and then told me she had to go to school, but then went afk again for ages (so I thought WTH?? she's gone?! Leaving me to plvl her??) and because she was resting at the bridge (stupid place to rest) u will expect mobs going passed! So I left her messages like "I have to go", "come back now or I will leave u here" "sorry if u die" blah blah...

Ehh.. I left her there and never looked back!! LOL ... I am learning not to be so nice MUAHAHA

viasta 06-11-2008 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loveless (Post 162418)
Hm... reminds of the time I was in another guild. At first I thought, sure, I'm helping out a guild member and I don't really have anything else to do. The group was healing me and helping too so that was okay.

But, I guess it's because I was the highest level, they kept on asking me to help them level. I've got levels to gain too! One time I did agree but he kept on shrooming and didn't come out in time to Heal. So many times my HP went down to below the 100s... so I got irritated and just suicided.

Random party invites are annoying too. Espeically when I'm solo AOEing. Get that damn party box out of my face!! Then there's "I only have 3%! Help me lvl pl0x!"... yeah it's only 3% so go do it yourself. Or "It's my Birthday!!" Everyday must be his friggin' birthday.

They send pt invite, you reject, they start KSing...

Uklyvian 06-12-2008 03:20 AM

ummmmmm, plvl me plz, lvl 70 is hrd i ned halp

Blaaaaaaaah 06-12-2008 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uklyvian (Post 163141)
ummmmmm, plvl me plz, lvl 70 is hrd i ned halp

K. Level 30 mage will plvl you. Let's party and train at the high levelled places to get more exp. :cheeky:

Hessah 06-12-2008 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alee (Post 162784)
I was soloing junior archons one day in uruga for my quest and a Lv 3x Cleric came and asked to party me, I thought, oh yeah, she will be able to help heal me. But she kept going afk and then told me she had to go to school, but then went afk again for ages (so I thought WTH?? she's gone?! Leaving me to plvl her??) and because she was resting at the bridge (stupid place to rest) u will expect mobs going passed! So I left her messages like "I have to go", "come back now or I will leave u here" "sorry if u die" blah blah...

Ehh.. I left her there and never looked back!! LOL ... I am learning not to be so nice MUAHAHA

YEEEEAH!

back when i was lvl 30-40ish... we had a party in Uruga.. our great guildy tank had to go, so our squishy party didnt hv a tank..

this fighter came up and asked if he could party with us, usually we dont party strangers, but we needed a fighter anyway so we gave it ago..

1. he doesnt kick/mock
2. our tarcher was the "tank" anyway
3. He said brb... and shroomed... right on our grinding spot...

so after 5 mins and he's still not back, we banned him from the party, moved spots... :ninja::ninja: and found him dead after 5 mins... :devil::devil:

GOD it was GOOOOOOD seeing him kissing the ground!

viasta 06-12-2008 05:29 AM

oh, before I was busy, this lv1 archer was in MT, and whispered me and asked if I can get him to Lv5. So I whispered back "Go kill Slimes, it'll be really fast" then he told me something like "no, i couldn't even kill one, the slimes kills me" then I was think to myself "idiots that make up sh........t..fine..i'll be nice and 'help'". So I invited him, and he said "Let me go afk while you level me" and just left, and I replied "Ok" and quit pt and he got instant killed. Then 2 hours or so later..he came back from afk and whispered me and asked me why I let him die and didn't heal me and left him to die. I replied that I was busy helping my mom out in the kitchen and I told him I am not a cleric and can't heal. He replied saying something like "your lying, your cleric and you don't have a mom, you are 40" then I blocked him for being a Lv1 idiot that asks for plvl.

Sero 06-12-2008 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alee (Post 162784)
I was soloing junior archons one day in uruga for my quest and a Lv 3x Cleric came and asked to party me, I thought, oh yeah, she will be able to help heal me. But she kept going afk and then told me she had to go to school, but then went afk again for ages (so I thought WTH?? she's gone?! Leaving me to plvl her??) and because she was resting at the bridge (stupid place to rest) u will expect mobs going passed! So I left her messages like "I have to go", "come back now or I will leave u here" "sorry if u die" blah blah...

Ehh.. I left her there and never looked back!! LOL ... I am learning not to be so nice MUAHAHA

Err, good enough but best thing you could've done was reject, or quit right away. Anyways you're doing good, I'm proud of you =D

Now I'll have no worries leaving NATURAL knowing you wouldn't be much of a push over =P just kidding :cheeky: but yeah...

Quote:

Originally Posted by viasta (Post 162848)
They send pt invite, you reject, they start KSing...

That happened to me just an hour ago in LS1, when I was killing Jewel Grave Robbers. Party of 4, picking on a solo fighter questing, have they no shame? I'll slice their balls off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 163153)
K. Level 30 mage will plvl you. Let's party and train at the high levelled places to get more exp. :cheeky:

^ LOL :cheeky:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 163158)
YEEEEAH!

back when i was lvl 30-40ish... we had a party in Uruga.. our great guildy tank had to go, so our squishy party didnt hv a tank..

this fighter came up and asked if he could party with us, usually we dont party strangers, but we needed a fighter anyway so we gave it ago..

1. he doesnt kick/mock
2. our tarcher was the "tank" anyway
3. He said brb... and shroomed... right on our grinding spot...

so after 5 mins and he's still not back, we banned him from the party, moved spots... :ninja::ninja: and found him dead after 5 mins... :devil::devil:

GOD it was GOOOOOOD seeing him kissing the ground!

^ It would feel like you won the lotto.

Quote:

Originally Posted by viasta (Post 163243)
He replied saying something like "your lying, your cleric and you don't have a mom, you are 40" then I blocked him for being a Lv1 idiot that asks for plvl.

Straight retard. Hands down.

~

nekineki 06-12-2008 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezza (Post 162692)
... press Escape and change the settings to ignore party invites until the irritating sod has gone away :cheeky:

I'm lazy...and forgetful:sigh: So yeah:eep:


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