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There are a lot of smart tricksters out there. I would like to just send out a warning to everyone in Teva.

~enhancing scammers
~spark cash scammers

And many other similar scammers. The enhancing scammers are a bit common already, they just run away with your money and weapon. Spark Cash scammers are different, they have ways to get your ID and password, hack you, strip you off and you know... I have a few names of em already. This would be for you to be more alert of accounts that have been stripped off and may be used to do more. That would be all, thank you~

Oh, and by the way payback is one sweet b*tch. My guildie was scammed, and she was smart enough to get her account back. I really have no idea how, but she said it was just pure common sense. What's more is I got something out of it too.

Teva be careful~

Can you give us more detail on how the scam with CS goes down?

Just like enhancing scams, you put your trust in the person, then he takes everything away. I'll use an example, I'm not so sure this is how it went with her [my guild mate that got scammed] but probably this guy talked her into giving him her password and ID. How? There is a limit on Spark Cash is there? Or something like that. Anyways he said he'll charge/put/whatever some to her account cause he claimed he was already over the limit. She then agreed, then realized she got scammed. What's more is, the one who scammed her was using another person's account [who probably was scammed too] but she found out the person behind everything was someone else. Her password was changed, and she was stripped off everything. What she had left was 8s and a few gear. She was lucky she got her account back, as she was able to talk the guy into giving it back. This happened around 2 days ago, and it was awhile ago she got hold of the guy's account through figuring the password and ID out [long story]. She got half her stuff and her 8g back, now she's going for the account of the real culprit. Payback is a sweet bitch, now he's going down. Some other people may have similar ideas to this, so there may be a lot others planning scams.

EDIT ~ I will update this thing tomorrow, it's getting late here and I gotta go sleep already. Good night :)

Wow, this is pretty grave...
So first it was the bots constantly yelling about purchasing gold. Now scammers?
Damn, this is crazy. Tell your guildie to be very careful next time. Hell, I wouldn't trust my account with anyone now...

So, basically, you need to follow the rules of enhancing. If you do not trust the person, do not give them your information.

um...don't be so gullible and think twice?

Who would think that it was a good idea to give someone your account access info or give people they don't even know stones/money/equipment...

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Originally Posted by lvramire (Post 156291)

um...don't be so gullible and think twice?

Who would think that it was a good idea to give someone your account access info or give people they don't even know stones/money/equipment...

Exactly. Only give your account information to people you know and trust.

it seems like what you're describing are scammers who depend on a certain naivete in their targets.

Most people don't have to worry about it because the ones described, depend upon you giving otherwise secure (relatively) information to them.

I hate to say this, but outspark is easily sql injectable with the spark cash login forms.

For anyone who doesn't know this sql injecting can edit the Database with all your information in an indirect way. For example the person could give himself/everyone 10k sparkcash. Or delete everyone's character.

As far as I know there is only one sql injectable way right now, but I don't think anyone knows about it.

another guy was talking about it a little while back.

no game's really 'unhackable' I guess, but the people who get stuff via asking the people for info get what they have coming :/

people who give out that info too...

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Originally Posted by Spirit (Post 156293)

Exactly. Only give your account information to people you know and trust.

Even if it's someone you met in game, played for a few months together or w/e, doesn't mean you know them or they can be trusted...

Unless they're your real life friends, siblings, and only if they need it for absolute necessity, otherwise don't give your password to anyone at all!

I know, I don't know if that guy was her friend already, or not... They're just smart people who know how to talk other people in that @_@ these happenings [along with my guild mate [on my other character] who lost her weapon to someone who was trusted] make me lose trust in some of my really close friends already X_X only one I feel like trusting right now is serodin my neighbor XD and probably a few others...

:O a while back my guild master had started to plvl ppl in our guild. So, i had seen that he had already gotten another guildie up 4 lvls, so i gave him my password/ email.
He is still trusted and has already lvled my up 2 lvls. ^_^ though he barely goes on my account anymore. A.K.A. only give people your password/ username/ email if you already have almost solid proof that they will not scam you or steal anything from your account..

._.
so far so good...

Even though, what if you possessed something very nice and valuable... The other user would be tempted @_@

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Originally Posted by Spirit (Post 156259)

So, basically, you need to follow the rules of enhancing. If you do not trust the person, do not give them your information.

WRONG!

Don't give out you account details to anyone. Period.

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Originally Posted by Spirit (Post 156293)

Exactly. Only give your account information to people you know and trust.

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Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 156470)

Wrong.

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Originally Posted by Outspark Terms of Service, Article I, Section VIII

You, as the registered user of an Outspark Account, are ultimately and completely responsible for maintaining confidentiality of your login information and the computer system used to access the Outspark Service. Further, you are solely responsible and liable for any and all uses of your Login Information, whether authorized by you or not. You may not directly or indirectly reveal your Password to anyone for any reason at any time or allow anyone else to access your Outspark Account. Sharing, trading, swapping, selling, buying, bartering, or otherwise distributing Outspark Accounts or Login Information is strictly prohibited and subject to disciplinary action up to and possibly including service termination at the sole and absolute discretion of Outspark. Outspark will NEVER ask for your Outspark Account Password and you should NEVER reveal it, EVER; even when contacting us about an account issue.

When creating a Username, you agree to indemnify and hold Outspark and its affiliates harmless for any improper use of such identity including, but not limited to, improper or illegal use by someone to whom you have revealed your Password in any way. Outspark is not responsible for any misuse of your Username, whether such misuse is by you or by third parties. When interacting in any online community we strongly recommend that all players think before they click and engage in safe internet practices at all times.

If you discover that the confidentiality of your Login Information may have been compromised, you are required to immediately and truthfully report this to Outspark Customer Support by submitting a support request via http://support.outspark.com/. We will coordinate with proper investigating authorities to hold individuals perpetrating online crimes accountable for their actions, including those who submit fraudulent or false reports.

They say it themselves. Use common sense. NaÃ¯vity may be a factor in some cases, but ultimately you are held responsible regardless.

My mother has my log in information. I trust her whole-heartedly. I also have her log-in information. I do not see a problem with this, as she is my mother and I am her daughter. Therefore not all cases are Wrong.
I also have the log-in information to my son's account and my nieces. Although my niece does not live at my house. But, if need be, I can log in and see who is on her friend's list and what these friends are saying to her in chat.

^ sneaky :D:p;)

Same here, serodin has my info, I have his as well~

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Originally Posted by SerodinSilver (Post 157393)

^ sneaky :D:p;)

Same here, serodin has my info, I have his as well~

So, guessing from the comment this was posted by Angel while logged into Serodin's account?

He meant his neighbor who took off with his name.

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Originally Posted by Lady-Loki (Post 157570)

So, guessing from the comment this was posted by Angel while logged into Serodin's account?

I guess you weren't around when I introduced serodin to the forums eh? =\
He's my neighbor whom I introduced the game to. And he is one reason why I type my name with the capital S, cause without capital may mean himself too -sigh- him following my name makes many people think he's me, and it is damn tiring and annoying DX if he named himself "Serodin" instead of "serodin" IDK what to do... I dun wan EVERYONE calling me Sliver -_-

and u're not sliver.. u're silver here.... why is this so confusing?

I'm both actually, many people call me Sliver [including Dakkon XD] but to most of the others I'm Silver. Since they can't read properly, I made my FF name SerodinSilver instead of Sliver. :D

Fall for a scam and your an idiot... only way to say it really... you NEVER give your password to anyone... Many people learn it the hard way but really you should just think logicly...

Yeah, do something like what Jamie did, very wise and witty.