Robo KQ: Official recruitment!
 

In light of 4swordlink's valiant attempts to complete the KQ with his 19 random associates, I've decided to take a shot at it myself. However, rather then working off pure guts and determination, I'm going to be organising this a little more elaborately. I'm also employing a strategy which the people in KFiesta use as well. All of this will more or less be explained as you read on. This will be exclusive to my fellow FiestaFanners of course, so sign up ASAP!


Registration

Here's the basic bits. Before I can draft you into this, I'll need to know your details.


When signing up, I will need you to post with these details. If you don't, I'll disregard your post completely.

Strategy part I: Parties.

This is going to be difficult to explain. Well not so much. Just a hassle to write. Most of you have watched the video that Fireriot kindly posted. If you haven't, here's the link:

http://www.fiestafan.com/forums/showthread.php?t=546

You can use it to better understand the strategy I'm about to illustrate. Now, we all know that I'm going to designate people based on their class and level. Why, I hear you ask? Why does it matter? Can't we just bash our way through like we've been doing with the slime, mara and gold hill quests? No, no and no. By doing this, you've failed the KQ because of either dying unnecessarily, or just dying by itself.

We as Isyans aren't Spartans. We don't hold off better if we're clustered as one. We don't beat our enemies in single fell swoops. We can't puncture our enemy's lungs with our spears. In fact we don't even have spears. Our shields can only block on a percentage basis, and we can't stick them together to get imba-block against a rain of incoming arrows. We just can't. We're Isyans. SO WE MUST FIGHT AS ISYANS, FOR ISYAAAAAA.

The KQ's limited to 20 people for a reason. The KQ also spawns monsters from 4 separate gates for a reason too. Believe it or not, parties are limited to 5 for a reason too. Zomg, epiphany? Yes, the party system was probably designed for this KQ somehow. Or this KQ was designed for the party system. Either way, Goddess Teva obviously wanted to test our ability as Isyan's to co-operate together in the most efficient manner. We've been failing her.

Anyway, to the point! There will have to be four parties of five. Each party will be defending their own spawn gate, be it North, South, East or West. This shall be called gate camping. You'll notice that in the video (if you've watched it), that the camera is fixated on one party until a specific point. That party is defending their gate (west I do believe), whilst the other parties are handling one each as well. Why did they do it this way? Two reasons:

1. Mob handling.
You'll rarely be able to handle a mob of 20 monsters without people dying in an instant. It's difficult, because you're disregarding the basics of Fiestian combat. You stick the tank in, he roars, everyone else attacks. But with a mob of 20 monsters, the process is severed to; You stick the tank in, tank dies, everyone dies. With a party at each gate, they'll only have mobs of 5 to handle, much much easier for a tank to take on.

2. Overall efficiency
If you've ever, ever done the Robo KQ (doesn't matter with how many) you'll understand how overwhelming the numbers can get if you can't beat down on the first wave of monsters quickly enough. They just keep coming, regardless of whether or not you've finished with your current wave. You can't ask the KQ to kindly stop pwning you, cause it's not gonna. With a party at each gate, numbers will never be overwhelming. You're camped where the monsters are. You hit them before they can hit you (because of the idle status that's present when you spawn). You also won't have to run back to the gates if you beat the wave too quickly (this is in comparison with camping in the centre). If you're running, you're not doing anything for the KQ, you've either stopped healing, stopped DPSing or stopped tanking. And if you aren't doing anything for even 5 seconds, someone's probably died cause of you.
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I'll be designating 2 clerics, 1 fighter and 2 damage dealers (be it mages or archers) to each party. If there aren't enough clerics, then 2 fighters, 1 cleric and two damage dealers will be allocated. 2 clerics is preferred over 1 in a party for more streamlined revivals, and more consistent healing. Also, 2 invincibles > 1. The 2 fighters strategy is self explanatory; it's to keep the aggro away from the healer (yes, healers produce aggro from healing allies). There will always, always be two damage dealers in each party. Otherwise you're screwed. Sure, 3 tanks and 2 clerics could take on the first wave, but their damage would be so insufficient, they'd find themselves swamped in numbers eventually. The DPS helps control the waves more quickly. The basic plan is for the fighter to engage the first wave of monsters head on. This is to assess how well he will be able to tank. If he can take on five mushrooms without difficulty, then he can take on the next wave just fine.

NOW HERE COMES THE IMPORTANT, YET SLIGHTLY COMPLEX PART.

The moment it becomes too difficult (double clerics spam heal no longer keeps him at full health, or invincibles were needed), allow one of the DPSers to pull away one or two of the monsters from the next wave to lighten the load for the tank. To do this properly, the archer/mage will pull away a monster, and then (and only then) the fighter will mock the rest of the wave. Yes, the DPSers will be capable of tanking one monster due to extenders/scrolls. If this isn't executed properly, someone will probably die, and you'll fall behind in controlling the waves before each interval.

Strategy Part II: A look at each wave.

Each wave will spawn at the 1:30 interval. You have one minute and thirty seconds to pwn the current wave before you're bombarded by the next. I'll be designating each party a gate (North, South, East or West). Once you spawn into the KQ map, rush to your gate. The first wave of mushrooms are waiting for you.

Eventually, the waves will cease. A huge break will be available for everyone to shroom, dance or spam their hearts out. Teva did this deliberately. It's so we know something huge is going to come. Something big. It's an anticipating two or so minutes. Afterwhich, bang, a bunch of skeletons come out of the closet to rape face. Forfeit the Isyan strategy explained earlier. We're Spartans for the next 15 minutes. There is no point gate camping now, as the monsters spawn in the centre. You stay in the centre, and kill everything you see that hits your comrades. Continue doing this until the timer reaches 8:30 (need more verification on this). This is when the final monster wave appears. It's robo, and he's revived his fallen comrades .__.

Unfortunately, I don't have any data on the robo. According to Tequila, he's the pwnage. But I'm sure if we could get this far, one robot won't pwn too hard.Anyway. The robo has an AoE attack, which will most likely kill you if you're within range. Two fighters will fight him, whilst the remaining two stay decidely back. Fighters don't have much DPS, as they miss a majority of their attacks on the bigger monsters. They can hold aggro pretty well though. I'm deciding to keep two in reserve just in case the other two fighters unfortunately die. The two reserved fighters will run in and kick, and run away for a short distance. This is to give space to the corpses of the other fighters, whilst two clerics revive them. Whilst the fighters are running away they should be casted with invincible. The revived fighters have now become the reserve fighters, whilst the reserve fighters have taken their place. Hopefully you understand what I mean. I just want the tanks to know how and when to switch out with eachother. If they can't do this, the DPS dies, and everyone slowly follows >__>. Well, once the ordeal with the Robo is finished, a big SUCCESS shall appear for us!

Edit: I'm still working out things with Delilah about the Robo, I'll be editing the above paragraph once everything's sort out. I'm aware that the information above is inaccurate, just bare with it for now.

Congratulations, we've finished the KQ for the first time in theory!

Designated Parties

Please refer to post #4. There was inadequate space for the list here .__.

Well, get signing peoples.

Though this isn't really neccessary as I conversed over this matter with you beforehand, I'll complete the registration.

IGN: MeNoEnglish (Call me menu, meno, Chinh or w/e)
Level: 33 >___>
Class: FULL SPR FIGHTER FUCKYEAH
Build: Woops, look up.
Timezone: Same as yours, Dynamics. GMT+10

Haven't read your post yet but I'll copy Chinh and sign up first.

IGN: Blaaaahs
Level: 34
Class: Cleric
Build: END/STR hybrid.
Timezone: GMT+10

- Goes and read now -

Ok I just read it. Very nice. May I ask you to add two things:

1. A special request for the clerics. Not only must you bring scrolls/extenders, please please PLEASE bring the pots you need. I know that sometimes us clerics can't heal fast enough in the previous KQs, and if we don't heal fast enough in those, I'm pretty sure there will be times where we might miss you in this Robo KQ. If you run out, we won't scream at you because that's reasonable, but if you don't bring any, I WILL SCREAM AT YOU! DDDD:

2. When you are KQing, please try and take note of the chatbox, and listen to whoever is shouting instructions (if there is any). We need everyone's attention and eyes if something went wrong.

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- Edits out -

Edit again:
LOL@ "MeNoEnglish (Noob, Level 1 - No stat noob, too poor for extenders)"

Edit for the third time:
HEY! You decided our party names without our say! It should be called "Blaaaahs and the others".

Designated Parties


These are the parties. Yep, you can make up your own party name. Just say it when you post your registration. i.e. "I want my team to be called Blue Bananas!" I'll think about suggestions as corny as that though. This is just for comical relief. Imagine shouting in orange text "HOW'S IT GOING OVER THERE BLUE BANANAS?!"


Strategy: In-Depth Analysis and FAQ

I'm guessing a lot of you will either have questions regarding why things are a certain way, or questions regarding what else you can do. This section is designed specifically for that.

Specific Class Roles

The Cleric
To every cleric, read this. This is what we want you to do. I won't badger you unless I see you're doing something wrong.


Trust me, you don't want Blahs screaming at you.


The Fighter



The Archer/Mage


Miscellaneous Advice:


Chat-box Awareness

Another thing you should do. It's called chat-box awareness. I know most of you will be quite busy mashing your hotkeys and looking at your hp slowly go down before spamming for your HP stones, but please, read the chat box ASAP. Keep updated with what people say.

Usage of HP stones

Don't be stingy. Do not be cheap. If it looks like you're going to die, use the HP stone. It isn't hard. Use the damned stone to save yourself, clerics can't always heal you for certain reasons. They're either busy reviving, healing someone more important, or just lagging. Don't blame the cleric if you've died, you're only asking to die faster. Don't harass the cleric to heal you, they know their job, so don't shove it into their face.

FAQ

No questions asked as of yet.

Change Log

Just throwing this in so I know where I'm going with things.

Stuff to edit/change:

Wave control, the last wave (where Robo spawns).
After going through the KQ a few times with random people, I've picked up the basics of what to do in the first part. Getting to Robo is quite easy, regardless of how disorganised your KQ crew may be. Anyway, I collected some information and wrote down the times for each wave, I'll be editing this post with them later. At the moment, how to complete the KQ is still a question. I'm guessing we have to find and defeat Robo before the mobs he summons get out of hand. Yes, he summons the mobs by his own hand. I realised it when I noticed the massive waves of monsters summoned come one wave at a time every 10 seconds. According to Delilah, Robo has pretty low HP, as her party was able to take down 1/8 of his health by themselves. So, maybe if we kill him the KQ will be finished? This is only speculation, but it's something to work on at least.

I HAF STAT LOOKIE LOOK

IGN: Delilah
Lvl: 40
Build: Tank
Timezone: Central

Guess I'll be the tank for your party, but I can't GUARANTEE that I'll be available. Due to some reasons, we have a very high CIPS bill and our electricity will be shut off. But if we're moved before this takes place, (maybe a few days?), I'll gladly help.

Thanks Dynamic, it's about time someone gets a plan going. ALSO, on the last wave, there's more than just Robo lol. ALL OF THE PREVIOUS MOBS, spawn. Unfortunately, it's almost impossible to kill all of them, and we have to focus on Robo. If you need any more info on this KQ, just PM me, whisper me in game, or reply here.

IGN: Ramesiel.

Level: 34.

Class: Cleric. Very good at supporting.

Build: Endurance > Spirit > Strength. For tanking and dealing critical hits, and also to have a large amount of SP for supporting.

Timezone: GMT. Usually on at like 12 PM to 2 AM or so. However, if I can force myself to wake up, then I could be on at any time really.

Notes: Would prefer to be in a party with my girlfriend, Alraune, who's also posting.

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Don't worry, you two will most likely be drafted with Delilah. Delilah's the best tank so far, but she'll need competent healers. We can't have her dying. You two seem to fit the job perfectly.

You three will be designated for the southern gate party. Have fun deciding a name amongst yourselves.

Edit: I just realised Alraune was a mage. Well, it doesn't matter, I'll be sure to draft another good healer with you Delilah. Alraune, I'm assuming your timezone would be the same as Ram's?

Also, Delilah could you give me more specific details with your build? And do all three of you have extenders/scrolls available?

Hey o just don't go off pure guts and determination. a lot of people tried to use the correct stradegy earlier today but it didn't work out quite right.

IGN: 4swordlink
Level: 35 and steadly going up
Class: Cleric
Build: Full END with 5 to SPR
Timezone: -7 GMT I think whatever central time is

IGN: Cookie7
Level: 36
Class: Cleric
Build: +10 str and the rest is end
Timezone: GMT-7

Don't have extenders, but i have scrolls.

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My build.. Hmm, 2;1 End;Spr. And yes, I can buy some extenders.

As for the name, I don't care.

This post no longer exists.

IGN: iMike
Level: 34
Class: Archer
Build: SPR/STR/END
Timezone: GMT-6

Side Note: I have green archer armor that give tremendous amounts of +, +15dex/end/spr I believe, CBA to check atm. Might get some more green archer armor depending on if I make enough money or not. =\

Holy shet, that's a big spidie.

Anyways, we need more people. If you happen to see anybody within the Robo KQ level range in-game, tell them to visit FiestaFan to take a look at this thread or contact Dynamics in-game.

I would sign up but I have a strong suspicion I would miss it.

Nevermind that! All we need now are numbers, then we can plan a time where most of the participants are able to attend.

Well football is in the way when most people are on for me.

Well ok, you can always change your mind.

Yes just keep me as a maybe.:eek:

xD Just wait for Dynamics to edit the participants post, fill in the registration stuff.

IGN:
Level:
Class:
Build:
Scrolls/Extenders:
Timezone:

IGN:fullback
Level:38
Class:cleric
Build:about 2<1 end to str
Scrolls/Extenders:almost tier 2 scrolls but can make all of them and I will by extenders if need as well I might have one from GM GW event so.
Timezone: GMT-7

Remember though I might not be able to make it.

BTW I am moving this thread to the party up section.

I've drafted most of the people who've signed up so far. iMike I've heard you have a higher level cleric, so I'll just ask whether or not you want to submit your archer or cleric before editing you in.

Don't worry, the parties are likely to change once more people participate, so far I've just balanced things out as much as possible. Once a full party is assembled however, please do befriend your team mates and try to meet up at some point. In fact, I challenge you to defeat the zombie king in graveyard with your party. If you can defeat him, then you should have no worries in the Robo KQ. Since graveyard monsters attack in mobs of 5, you'll be able to practice the most efficient way to handle them together. Not to mention the experience will allow you to become familiar with your team.

Me and Ramesiel are both level 35 now c: We'll try to get a bit higher before this KQ.

I'll be using my Archer unless a cleric is absolutely needed. =]

By the way, you can take out the bit how I said to get the clerics together and organise who's healer and who's a reviver. After trying the KQ properly, there's no way the revivers will stick to reviving and healers stick to healing. Too chaotic to be that organised.

So you can take it out. xD

IGN: Cleone
Lvl 45 *almost 46* fighter
Silly me put 25 in STR, rest mainly in SPR
Timezone +0100 GMT

Mmmm, I'll push back getting to lv 46 for a day, just to do a few more robo kqs xP I use a 2 hand sword, can take quite a beating, but my HP will go down preeetty quickly.

Cleone! You tanked really well just then. You had like.. so many mobs having a go at you. I hope we can get this KQ going before you level!

Edit: moved this back to Fiesta General for a while to get more people reading this.

>_< without constant attention from clerics, I couldn't keep up with the beating. Horrible.

If I steal the first hits on a bunch of mobs, devaste will stun up to 10 of them, if only no one else scatters them =/

i don't know many of the skills but that's the fighter aoe right? so then you could use that to make sure you hold agro while others used their aoes as well? i know the archer aoe has a way too long cool down to make it useful (the one i have now at least) but i don't know anything about mages so would that work to let multiple mages just spam a aoe and possibly take kill at least most of the mob at once? and would that be the best idea *knows nothing of robo KQ besides what was mentioned in first post*

-EDIT- i'm asking because i was wondering if maybe if you know for sure that the fighter can take whatever's coming and all of it without too much trouble would one fighter, one healer, 2 mages, and an archer kill faster than a team of (trying to remember from the original idea) i think it was a fighter, 2 clerics, and archer and mage? (sorry if i got that wrong, kinda in a hurry, i keep losing track of time >_<)

That's good logic, but Outspark's ridiculously imbalanced numbers turn all war tactics upside down. I think the monsters have roughly 3-4khp, which is overwhelming enough to make killing a mob difficult even for 10 mages. And 10 mages in the Robo KQ is presumably a fail, as their fragile HP turns them into purple dominoes.

Edit: I think it would work, but we'll just have to see who signs up, so far the numbers are looking thin. Originally I wanted two clerics for the safety, but after going through the KQ several times I don't think that this will be an issue. DPS will take priority now.

Indeed, that is what I use to stun up to 10 monsters. I put lots of skill points into it, but there is still an 6-second gap before I can stun again. The problem is, Devestate is a lvl 43 skill. Few people who join robo KQ are towards the upper end of the level bracket =/

Devastate is not like Snearing kick... While I do pull the monsters at first, if someone does more damage to them/run around too much/heal me too much the monsters scatter. It was difficult to gather them monsters. People tend to run away from me so in effect they are breaking up my crowd control =( Also, some of those monster do biiiig damage =S Being on the receiving end of 5-6 skele knights while the clerics run around saving themselves is pretty nasty. Instead of 2 mages how about more clerics? xP

>_< I hit lv 48...

Awww Icy can't do it with us ;~;

Btw, time to update some levels. ^-^

More more more people signing up please! I should shout in game later to see if anyone would join.

We finally won.:D No strategy or anything, just ran like mad lol.

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5...victoryub0.jpg

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Anything good from the box?

The more important question is: How'd you win?

I got a +1% crit and +70 sp earrings i think, 2 blessed elrue and 5 pots. My friend got a +4 lvl40 sword.

We stayed in the south room until the mobs from the last wave rush in, we ran out and just run around with the mobs behind us. We did that for the last 5 minutes lol. -.-"

How much exp do you need to lvl up at that lvl?