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Ninja_Medic 05-16-2008 01:06 AM

Cleric, Archer, Stone, Scroll
 
Okay, I have a serious problem here... in my opinion...

I have a Cleric who can make Scrolls and Pots and an Archer who can make Scrolls and Stones.

The problem is, that I have the money to support my Cleric (main) with the stones he needs by buying them off of other players.

I do not however, have the money to support buying mats. for 3 different production skills.

I was thinking about deleting my Archer and making a different character who has the ability to create and break apart mats.

The only problem is, my archer is me and my friends play character.

(He has an Archer of the same level as my archer.)

What should I do?

Just quickly remake the new character or what?

Spirit 05-16-2008 01:11 AM

Or you could find someone who can decomp and comp for you. I decomp and comp for my friends all the time for free. All they give me is the mats and the alchemy stones.
Maybe someone on here that is in Apoline will respond.

Ninja_Medic 05-16-2008 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Spirit (Post 145295)
Or you could find someone who can decomp and comp for you. I decomp and comp for my friends all the time for free. All they give me is the mats and the alchemy stones.
Maybe someone on here that is in Apoline will respond.

What does it mean to "decomp" and "comp?"

Hessah 05-16-2008 01:22 AM

Quote:

I have a Cleric who can make Scrolls and Pots and an Archer who can make Scrolls and Stones.
Hmm... So you've got two characters making scrolls?

I'll advice for you to have only one of the character doing scroll production. So let say you make 200 scrolls (100 scrolls for cleric, and 100 scrolls for archer), if you have just your cleric doing the scroll productions, the cleric will have 200 scroll points, which means you'll reach your next scroll production skill quicker...

Materials can be transfered between characters through Storage...

I'm not sure what you mean by "my archer is me and my friends play character." So your friend plays the cleric? You two share an account?

What I do is to make a 3rd character with comp/decomp skill, and transfer the materials through storage... will that help?



EDIT: Comp = Composition
Decomp - Decomposition

Decomposition is when you break a higher Tier material into a lower Tier Material..

For example, Tender Meat is a T2 material, you can decomp a Tender Meat into 11 Tough Meat (a T1 material), so you can make T1 potions with the Tough Meat...

Ninja_Medic 05-16-2008 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 145302)
Hmm... So you've got two characters making scrolls?

I'll advice for you to have only one of the character doing scroll production. So let say you make 200 scrolls (100 scrolls for cleric, and 100 scrolls for archer), if you have just your cleric doing the scroll productions, the cleric will have 200 scroll points, which means you'll reach your next scroll production skill quicker...

Materials can be transfered between characters through Storage...

I'm not sure what you mean by "my archer is me and my friends play character." So your friend plays the cleric? You two share an account?

What I do is to make a 3rd character with comp/decomp skill, and transfer the materials through storage... will that help?

Sorry, I didn't make this very clear...

He has an archer and I have an archer. We play as the archers when we both are on. While he is off (which is a lot of the time,) I play as my main, the cleric.

Does that clear things up a bit?


I would rather not make another character... idk why, but I just feel right doing so... LOL.

Triumph 05-16-2008 01:34 AM

If you have already dumped points into each respective alchemy field, then there is no point to deleting.

However, I would suggest against Material Composition and/or Decomposition if you do not have the capital necessary to fund it. Material Decomposition cannot generate profit; the products you make with other skills counterbalance this.

Ninja_Medic 05-16-2008 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triumph (Post 145308)
If you have already dumped points into each respective alchemy field, then there is no point to deleting.

However, I would suggest against Material Composition and/or Decomposition if you do not have the capital necessary to fund it. Material Decomposition cannot generate profit; the products you make with other skills counterbalance this.

The archer I have has virtually no alchemy points, I've transfered most of the mats. over to my main.


So, what you're saying is, to make a new character with mat. decom.

Taking the high mats I get from my lvl 36 main, breaking them down, selling some, then using the left overs to make scrolls, pots, etc?

Hessah 05-16-2008 01:42 AM

Yeah, I dont know if this is gonna complicate things, but this is how i see it...

(if it gets too confusing then ignore this XD)

You picked up 2 Tender meat (T2), and 2 Magic Crystal (T2)

You Decomp it into 22 Tough meat, and 38 Magic Crystals (T1)

That amount of material is sufficient for you to make 19 SP T1 Potions..

You sell them for 30c Each.

COST: 4 alchemy stones, about 60c for 4. Tender meat, potentially 100c (NPC price), and Magic Crystals, potentially 120c.
Total Cost: 280c.

REVENUE: 19 pots x 30c = 570c

PROFIT: 290c

But yes, you'll have to spend a bit of Alchemy stones to get that to the experience points to be able to decomp meat and crystals. (And archers need to save up their Fame points for level 60 skill.) But you can always use your cleric's fame points.

Ninja_Medic 05-16-2008 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 145316)
Yeah, I dont know if this is gonna complicate things, but this is how i see it...

(if it gets too confusing then ignore this XD)

You picked up 2 Tender meat (T2), and 2 Magic Crystal (T2)

You Decomp it into 22 Tough meat, and 38 Magic Crystals (T1)

That amount of material is sufficient for you to make 19 SP T1 Potions..

You sell them for 30c Each.

COST: 4 alchemy stones, about 60c for 4. Tender meat, potentially 100c (NPC price), and Magic Crystals, potentially 120c.
Total Cost: 280c.

REVENUE: 19 pots x 30c = 570c

PROFIT: 290c

But yes, you'll have to spend a bit of Alchemy stones to get that to the experience points to be able to decomp meat and crystals. (And archers need to save up their Fame points for level 60 skill.) But you can always use your cleric's fame points.

OKAY, we have a REALLY big problem now...

I don't normally do quests...

My cleric 1,396 fame points from his entire career as a cleric...

Hessah 05-16-2008 02:20 AM

You can set up a shop to buy alchemy stones...

Alchemy Stone 1 are usually about 10-20c (depending on how much time you've go to vend)

Ralath 05-16-2008 02:24 AM

OR I WILL DO IT FOR YOU!!!!!!!

But only T2->T1 stuff please.

I have problems levelling up Comp/Decomp so I will do it for free, for you!

But give me some advance warning. I'm only at like... 300 Decomp and 200 Comp and can't do anything useful yet.

You just have to provide the mats and the alchemy stones!

Vasu 05-16-2008 04:17 AM

Hey cool Ralath, can you decomp my MQ SBL into LQ SBL? Same with dogteeth (MQ to LQ) and crude leather to torn leather? Can you? Can you?

Ralath 05-16-2008 04:45 AM

I think so. I definitely think I can do the Torn Leather.

I can't remember if I got up to the other two or not.

Vasu 05-16-2008 04:50 AM

Tell me after you check back.

Ralath 05-16-2008 09:03 AM

Haha... OK. Here's what I can do (and it's not much... -.-)

I can turn your MQ Beast Dogtooth into LQ Beast Dogtooth.

And... that's it. XD

I might be able to get to Torn Leather if I level it really hard this weekend. =o But... we'll see.

Just PM in game if you need Dogtooth done.

Vasu 05-16-2008 09:17 AM

Aww pity..it's the SBL I really need...oh well, I'll get back to you once you can do SBL.

Ralath 05-16-2008 09:30 AM

XD

*shifty eyes*

why don't you help me level my decomp up since I'm about 700 points away~~

Vasu 05-16-2008 09:32 AM

Ok then, if you're online now, I have like 9 dogteeth =\
But if you get to torn leather, i have 50+ crude leather you can decomp so that you can do my SBL sooner.

Ralath 05-16-2008 09:36 AM

XD

Why thankies!

But... not right now. I'm online but about to turn in for the morning.

Spirit 05-16-2008 01:50 PM

Ralath, the easiest and quickest way to build up your decomp is to go to Vine Tomb, and go in the back where all the sap trees are. Pick you a Bunch of sap. It is T2 sap. Then decomp the crap out of it. Now, if you are also working comp and you want to conserve time, you can comp that sap back up into T2, then decomp it back down, repeat until you run out of sap.

Ralath 05-16-2008 04:47 PM

^Yahh... I realized Sap was a lot faster than mining for Ore... -_-


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