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tacc 08-11-2007 07:36 PM

GM Spam
 
Is there a reason why GMs are spaming senseless messages all day long? They even insult players. Isn't there anything else to do instead spamming 24h a day?
They even use broadcasts to talk to single people. Cant they use whisper or something like that?
Broadcasts should contain useful informations, not senseless spam.

secbro20 08-11-2007 07:51 PM

I kinda agree with you..it is pretty pointless to just spam nonsense over the server...but whatever. Its not affecting players actually playing so....whatever:p

tehfusion 08-11-2007 08:17 PM

Agreed. I particularly hate the ones like, random 'o_O' notices. But I'm hoping this will go away in open beta.

AndyB 08-11-2007 09:15 PM

They weren't really insults, every1 they were directed at was laughing including myself. I think the 1 directed at me was that i use glowing equipment to compensate for something. Then the other 1 was that solus is a better tank than me (i really LOLed at that 1) ;D

Synelia 08-11-2007 09:38 PM

I loved the annoucement that Sasuke runs like a girl. I laughed so hard at that. And Kaalan telling me to Run or noting that I'm running from that big Mini Dragon he released onto Elderine.

I don't mind the "spam" that the GMs do, if anything, it makes the game a bit more interesting, because you never know what they'll say next!

Blaaaaaaaah 08-11-2007 10:56 PM

I don't think I've been on to see a useless spam but I loved it when one of them said during an event "Someone kill that suckup Alex xD" in shout. Forgot who said it, either Kaalan or Dakkon, but that was funny. xD (and that person seemed to ignore and continued to shout suckup lines in shout, haha!)

+Tequila+ 08-12-2007 02:37 AM

Its not useless the gms really just want to be considered one of the *guys*. They try building a relationship with us instead of sittin in thier little white tower staring down on us. :D

secbro20 08-12-2007 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by +Tequila+ (Post 11670)
Its not useless the gms really just want to be considered one of the *guys*. They try building a relationship with us instead of sittin in thier little white tower staring down on us. :D

That's so true...I really like how these GMs are really involved with the players...Unlike some GMs *cough*flyff*Cough*

Destrus 08-12-2007 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secbro17 (Post 11697)
That's so true...I really like how these GMs are really involved with the players...Unlike some GMs *cough*flyff*Cough*

heh the one gm that tried to show his face a lot (usually at feferns) doesn't work there anymore. then gala just had a bunch of gms that did absolutely nothing. now they actually have a couple doing something i guess

Sigurd 08-12-2007 04:42 AM

As nice as it is for the GMs to want to be "one of the guys" and be friendly with the players, is it can easily cause problems. GMs are technically customer service/event runners. The problem with GMs becoming too chummy with the players is you start to see them playing favourites, and GMs may slip players they like little gifts, or help them out somehow that is unfair to other players.

Although it is Closed beta and they can screw around as much as they want without having to worry about it, I hope they act a little more professional when Open beta hits. Randomly spawning millions of monsters in town and mass murdering players causing them to lose a bunch of exp they just earned, is NOT a good way to keep players. Yes, its enjoyable to the higher level players who have established their characters and want random challenges, but thats playing favourites, and when this game is launched, they will want as many players to stick around as they can, because servers aren't free, they need money.

I do hope there is still random events but I hope they're atleast a little planned instead of dropping 40 king slimes in Roumen, and also rewarding the server with tons of free items is really messing with the economy, but like I said, its still Closed beta, so I just hope it stays a closed beta thing. Bias in MMOs really blows, and even though in Flyff the newer GMs do just about jack, atleast theres no bias. I know a few people who got free CWs, and cash shop items from the older Flyff GMs because they got chummy with them. Exactly why they aren't working there anymore.

Destrus 08-12-2007 04:43 AM

actually whenever they spawned things in town and i got killed i didn't lose any xp. in fact i got over 1k from the giant honeying

Neelie 08-12-2007 06:14 PM

Aw the gms are awesome D:

You should see how it was in a game I used to play, seeing a single GM was ridiculously rare. Out of the two years I played Conquer Online, I only saw ONE GM, and only once... o_O It was almost epic to see one, which is ridiculous imo.

I just hope that never happens in this game. :S

Valentines 08-12-2007 06:27 PM

Isn't that Break who randomly goes "o_O" ?

rokaraged 08-13-2007 02:38 PM

I can agree they can be annoying but in reality they are just playing around. See unlike OTHER MMOS the gms WANT TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY rather than just appear as mindless brainwashed controled representatives of outspark.

Sure they pick on players but its never meant to be an insult. (kaalan even once teleported me to a pvp just to kill me) If you knew the gms well they usually always mean good. If you even go to the Fiestafan IRC gms will occasionally come in and screw around just for fun.

I also kinda agree though I am afraid of favoritism..but I don't think I see any of it...yet.

Edit: Then again the gms did give elizabeth a GM BODYGUARD during a gw a while ago. >.>

Niion 08-13-2007 05:22 PM

I missed something fun agian, didn't I?
T___T
I was watching the meteor shower T_______T


and also.

Quityerbitchennnn.
The GMs invited YOU into THEIR home.
You did NOT invited them into YOUR home.

If they wanna run around naked comparing your wanks to Dan Rad's package, they sure as hell can.


And seriously, someone needs to introduce Dan Rad to some FUNDOSHI.

O-mie 08-14-2007 03:32 AM

@OP

Find more things to fill your day in with besides complaining about GM's o_O

@Sigurd
Totally agree.

@everybody else

I'm actually quite impressed with the GM's here. Like already stated, they're actually trying to be part of the community, which rocks, so long as they don't play favorites in Open.

Blaaaaaaaah 08-14-2007 09:02 AM

Well, to whoever that is annoyed at GM spams, I guess you wouldn't put up with much of those in Open beta, since (I'm just guessing) that there wouldn't be as many GMs for your server if they're going to be split into two groups, each group supervising each server (teva and ... a.. forgot the other server name!). Since there's less GMs in charge, they're probably going to be more busy.

Triumph 08-14-2007 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 12034)
Well, to whoever that is annoyed at GM spams, I guess you wouldn't put up with much of those in Open beta, since (I'm just guessing) that there wouldn't be as many GMs for your server if they're going to be split into two groups, each group supervising each server (teva and ... a.. forgot the other server name!). Since there's less GMs in charge, they're probably going to be more busy.

Apaline. ;)

Personally, I think the GMs do a good job...Kaalan gets a little out of hand sometime with his rain of monsters sometimes, but he's cool to be around.

Dakkon seems a little too uptight though.

Whudafux 08-14-2007 01:05 PM

Apoline*

You nubcake. <3

But I do like how they are essentially part of the community, but as O-Mie said, in open they better not play favorites to people.

tacc 08-14-2007 02:45 PM

It's quite funny. Since I wrote this thread here I never saw any gm messages again.

Yosei 08-14-2007 05:19 PM

I don't mind it to an extent. Makes them look friendly and active. But sometimes it looks like they're abusing their powers and abilities.

DwLee 08-16-2007 04:54 PM

Yes.. I second the person who brought up FAVORITES. I've already noticed it a few times as well. -.-

GMs openly insult me casually. Seems if they have their unfavorites too. -.-

Bao 08-16-2007 06:49 PM

Meh, they're just trying to have a little fun.

It's CB, it's gonna get wiped anyway. You have to remember this is a game, the whole point of one is to have fun and relax. =\

Belaslav 08-16-2007 10:27 PM

Meh, I'm not too worried about favorites now. Heh, imagine if someone caught a GM giving a present to somebody!

+Tequila+ 08-16-2007 11:40 PM

Alrite I've sat an watched this thread long enough. You people who have nothing better to do then complain and make FALSE accusations of favoritism sicken me. Go grow up. Maybe if you people took them time to come into IRC an get to know them instead of spamming them with insults or "GM GIMMIE MONEY PLOX or GM BUFF ME PLOX." You would have the relationship with them you desire. Eventually you will complain them into non-existence and we will end up like the FLYFF community...ABANDONED.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DwLee (Post 12487)
Yes.. I second the person who brought up FAVORITES. I've already noticed it a few times as well. -.-

GMs openly insult me casually. Seems if they have their unfavorites too. -.-

Harlot you gave the GMs every reason to dislike you in CB1 infact you made them dislike the guild as a whole. You GM bashed everytime one was near you. In Cb2 you were a idiot an even alienated your guildmates causing HQ to break-up. AND after we left you an HQ you tried to ruin a event for us by warring and attacking AndyB during his turn.

As for us being FAVORITES what evidence do have to support that? We in no way have recieved any help from the GMs. We talk to them in the IRC channel*which has been made public on numerous occasions*and thats about it. You were banned for insulting a player in shout chat. I wont even began to repeat some of the things you were saying but yea you were screenshotted and reported for it and got banned get over it baby. So what if she was in CL she was still a player was she not? You insult people and expect them to like you? As for the Gms I'm pretty sure even they dont even bother with you so how can you say they publicly insult you? You're lieing through your teeth and you know it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whudafux (Post 12074)
Apoline*

You nubcake. <3

But I do like how they are essentially part of the community, but as O-Mie said, in open they better not play favorites to people.

AGAIN WHAT FAVORITISM?...Can you find one lvl? one weapon or one silver that has not been earned among us?

JimJimster 08-17-2007 12:37 AM

i hav whisper conversations with [GM]iceman all the time, and i think the notices are whn gms use theshout feature, could be wrong

Sigurd 08-17-2007 01:36 AM

@Tequila

No need to flip out, I don't think one person in this thread accused the GMs of playing favourites.

The reason favourites was brought up was because in many cases when GMs are this casual and interactive with the community, favouritism happens. Theres a tons of MMOs out there and it's happened to a lot of them.

We already know since its CB they're going crazy with handouts, although yes, they have done a good job at making the handouts relatively global, or to people who have won contests. So if there is going to be chances at free gifts that's a good way of doing it.

Some are just concerned though, that people who are friends with the GMs, may be given more leniency in the rules of the game, or be slipped gifts, causing an imbalance to the game, and ruining it for people who are unable to befriend the GMs. In no way am I accusing anyone, but its something that has happened and is a concern to many players that want to have an enjoyable gaming experience.

Not only is it a concern for the players, but the gaming companies themselves. You mention the Flyff community being abandoned. This isn't true. GMs, for example, Limester, who was very active with the Flyff community and many players loved was fired, because of the handing out of items, and giving certain players levels. *coughstragocough* Because of all this, the GMs currently employed by Galanet rarely make an appearance, and only do scheduled events. This was done EXACTLY to stop these problems. You call it abandoning the players? Galanet calls it NOT LOSING MONEY.

And this is why chummy GMs has been such a concern.

+Tequila+ 08-17-2007 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigurd (Post 12551)
@Tequila

No need to flip out, I don't think one person in this thread accused the GMs of playing favourites.

The reason favourites was brought up was because in many cases when GMs are this casual and interactive with the community, favouritism happens. Theres a tons of MMOs out there and it's happened to a lot of them.

We already know since its CB they're going crazy with handouts, although yes, they have done a good job at making the handouts relatively global, or to people who have won contests. So if there is going to be chances at free gifts that's a good way of doing it.

Some are just concerned though, that people who are friends with the GMs, may be given more leniency in the rules of the game, or be slipped gifts, causing an imbalance to the game, and ruining it for people who are unable to befriend the GMs. In no way am I accusing anyone, but its something that has happened and is a concern to many players that want to have an enjoyable gaming experience.

Not only is it a concern for the players, but the gaming companies themselves. You mention the Flyff community being abandoned. This isn't true. GMs, for example, Limester, who was very active with the Flyff community and many players loved was fired, because of the handing out of items, and giving certain players levels. *coughstragocough* Because of all this, the GMs currently employed by Galanet rarely make an appearance, and only do scheduled events. This was done EXACTLY to stop these problems. You call it abandoning the players? Galanet calls it NOT LOSING MONEY.

And this is why chummy GMs has been such a concern.

Again like I said can you people find one instance of people being slipped gifts? And has anyone been given lvls? So until that happens keep your favoritism crap to yourselves :D ^^ FiestaFan will be a much happier place that way. Again fail tyvm....and me flipping out was directed @ Harlot who I have every right to flip out on ^^ kthnxbye.

O-mie 08-17-2007 01:44 AM

Again, I agree with Sigurd, and seriously, stop flipping out and attacking DwLee.
Flyff GMs actually are somewhat active, especially on the forums. Xagel for instance is even active on flyffworld. He doesn't have to do that but he does. They still do events, too.

But yeah, you need to cool your jets and not attack other members. >_> Its not becoming, even if you are just trying to make a point. If you have something to yell at him/her about, you should do it in PM or something.

*EDIT*

After reading the thing you posted - Nobody is saying anybody is being favorited, just that GMS befriending players leads them to give them stuff. Friends help each other, lol. Its not a bad thing to want to help your friends, but making them have an advantage of other players just because of it isn't right. ;o

Blaaaaaaaah 08-17-2007 01:46 AM

Well I don't see why we should worry about something that hasn't even happened yet. What can we do? Complain already when the GMs haven't even done any favouritism?

I'm not saying this will not happen in Fiesta, but there is no use worrying or complaining about something that hasn't even happened. Besides, I personally don't really see how a GM "slipping" any certain player a gift will ruin the economy. After all, it is only that one player that gets the extra item, and I highly doubt that's going to affect the WHOLE economy. It is only if GMs give gifts to everyone (like spawning treasure chests everywhere) that would significantly affect the economy. But then again, I'm not a terribly experienced MMORPG player soooo I'm just taking a guess. xD

Some people might think it's unfair if a GM does that. Sure, it's not really fair, but so what? Personally, I don't care if someone got a special item from a GM. It's not going to affect me unless they use it against me in PvP or whatever.

+Tequila+ 08-17-2007 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O-mie (Post 12555)
Again, I agree with Sigurd, and seriously, stop flipping out and attacking DwLee.
Flyff GMs actually are somewhat active, especially on the forums. Xagel for instance is even active on flyffworld. He doesn't have to do that but he does. They still do events, too.

But yeah, you need to cool your jets and not attack other members. >_> Its not becoming, even if you are just trying to make a point. If you have something to yell at him/her about, you should do it in PM or something.

Ok dude read ^ please you dont know the history with Harlot as you have 9 or whatever amount of post here an havent been here very long.:cool: So any attack on him is justified.

O-mie 08-17-2007 01:50 AM

9+ post doesn't mean I don't lurk. And to be honest, I don't know what went on with him, but I do know that no matter what the case, flaming somebody like that is wrong. His post wasn't saying anything derogative or aggressive, so I suggest you man-up and act civil.



Sigurd 08-17-2007 01:55 AM

@Tequila

Do you even read?

NOBODY ACCUSED THE GMS OF DOING ANYTHING, THEY ARE JUST -CONCERNED- THAT THINGS MAY HAPPEN.

People can have opinions. Just because you're friends with GMs doesn't mean you can govern what people may think about them.

+Tequila+ 08-17-2007 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O-mie (Post 12559)
9+ post doesn't mean I don't lurk. And to be honest, I don't know what went on with him, but I do know that no matter what the case, flaming somebody like that is wrong. His post wasn't saying anything derogative or aggressive, so I suggest you man-up and act civil.



> Join Date: 08-14-2007 < *Cough* okay dude....wait i just noticed something you dont have that magic Administrator or Moderator tag next to your name so why am I even responding to you? but since you dont know let give you some background: DwLee aka Harlot aka Delilah has been a troublemaker since day one..hes already been banned once on Fiesta..sheer stupidity. :D kthnxbye^^

@Sigurd Friends wtf? dude...its like this we get more scrutiny from the gms then anyone else simplye because of our lvls..AND yes HARLOT WAS making accusations of favoritism from the GMS but again dude you just dont know this. ^^. Hes caused us/me trouble in the past but again dude you just dont know ^^.

O-mie 08-17-2007 02:00 AM

You don't need to join to read these forums, you nit wit. And furthermore - Just because I'm not a mod on these forums doesn't mean my opinion is null and void.

I don't care what he did. He didn't do anything bad to me or any of my friends, so I have no reason to hold anything against him. He was a troublemaker? Big deal. Build a bridge and get over it, or do us a favor and jump off it. NOBODY IN THIS THREAD CARES, this thread is about GMS, not him. Grow up.

Blaaaaaaaah 08-17-2007 02:00 AM

Thread closed. This is just going to become a flame war. Please resolve the matters via pm's if you must.


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