"Clerics have feelings too T__T" - Dynamics
 

Yeah sooo I posted this in another thread, but Dynamics agrees that this deserves an entire new thread so here it is. I was about to put this in the Clerics subforum, but then again, I want all the other classes read this too so they know how to pay a little more respect to us next time (of course, this probably doesn't apply to most of you here anyway, hopefully!).

Ok so, what is this thread about? It's basically going to be a rant for the clerics, and some tips of what you should do to avoid pissing a cleric off (nothing good happens from pissing off a cleric! No heal/revive for j00! Trust me, I've got so fustrated at one point I didn't revive a person once since I believe he didn't deserve it. Most of this applies to KQs, but maybe some applies to small parties when training. As you can see, this post is long, so if you can't be bothered to read this, then just read the purple texts.

Bring your damn pots, puh-lease!
Seriously, if you need heal, we will come and keep you alive to the best of our ability. Note: to the best of our ability. But sometimes, we can't. Sometimes we have a whole group of other people to heal and support. You are not the only one. The world does not revolve around you. If you need heal after every single hit from a monster, perhaps you should attack a mob after someone else hits and tanks it. If you require heals that frequently, it means you should not be tanking the damn thing! We don't have time to heal you after every single hit if we have other people to support. Sure, if there is a whole bunch of other (helpful) clerics, then maybe we can, but this it not always the case!

I know there are some lousy clerics out there. Do this:
But if you see all the clerics running around, healing people, helping people tank if there are not enough tankers, leave them alone! Bring your own pots and heal yourself! It could be that one pot that saves you. Clerics aren't always next to you, they aren't privileged enough to run faster than anyone else, and it will take time for them to actually reach you if they're far away. If you're dying by the second, pot and save yourself! We clerics aren't robots, and we could sometimes be too occupied with the mob that's hitting us to notice your health going down. We can't react as soon as your health goes down. We're not God.

Bring your own pots. Save yourself. We can't always be there for you.

"RESS. RESS. LAST LIFE. RESS." - Shut up.
Firstly, REVIVE HAS A 30 SECOND COOL DOWN! Secondly, REVIVE HAS A 30 SECOND COOL DOWN! Thirdly, REVIVE HAS A 30 SECOND COOL DOWN!

Ok I hope everyone remembers that now. Believe it or not, 30 seconds is a lot of time when you only have 2 minutes left before you get spawned to town. I know how you feel when you're lying there, down to the last life, waiting for res but no clerics seem to res you. You want to scream at them, you want to complain and swear at them for not doing their job! Sure, do it, but before you do, take a look at your surround situation, please. Are there many clerics? Are there are a lot of people dead on the ground? Usually lack of clerics = people dying because there's not enough support going around the whole group. When that happens, don't. scream. for. revive. ok? We will leave you there to ROT if you do that. Because revive has a 30 second cool down, we can't revive you straight away if we've revived someone else.

If a whole bunch of you are dead on the ground, it'll take some time, ok? If after all those revives and you still ran out of time, bad luck then. Everyone have their bad KQs, this is probably yours. Please don't swear or tell them off unreasonably. Sometimes they can't help it. I usually try to find out the order people die in so I revive the ones that dies earliest, but if there's like 4 people, I can't tell who dies first because you all probably died at the same time anyway.

Also, if you think "wtf, why that cleric revive that person instead of me?" I'm sorry. If there are a lot of people dead (which means one or two people might not make it after all the cooldowns), I personally revive the tankers or the more useful people first. We can't revive you just because you want. We need to think about all the other people in the group who are still alive, who's still got a chance to win. If you're one of those people that tend to die ALL the time, then you will probably not be favoured before everyone else. I know, that sounds unfair, but we're doing this for the rest of the group, and we can't do something that only helps one person (who might probably die again afterwards). I've made that mistake once, reviving people who died alot (I was the only cleric) and I was late to the final boss and couldn't heal in time, and failed the KQ.

Look around you and think for a second time before you start yelling for revive. Revive has a 30 second cool down!

Dying after about 2 hits? Stand back.
This is mainly for archers and mages out there. I know most of you are probably smart enough to hang back and deal the damages after someone tanks, but there are about 10% of the rangers out there who are just.. stupid. I hope none of your are one of them since it's pretty much common sense, but if you're a type of person that's really eager to go kill all those mobs at the front out there and finish the KQ, then don't expect a cleric to heal you. I get so annoyed at archer/mages (or other people who die really easily) to rush up ahead.

Firstly, we don't want to run after you and leave the group to heal you, ok? If you can't tank it, then don't! If you die, you make us revive, and you stop us from healing people who are actually doing something right. Secondly, if we chase after you and you die, the mobs who are going after you will probably come after us - we die, and no one will revive you. You don't want that, right? Please, it's good to know you're eager and all, but be patient and stick with the group if you need your cleric's support.

Keep yourself safe. Don't do anything stupid and risk your life if you can't tank it. We will give up supporting you repeatedly if you do.

Omg, you only rant, what the hell do you want us to do?
Simple, just be polite to us, as well as don't do all of the things above. Heck, if you're a careless person and you die a lot, or you did something utterly stupid, you might be able to get away with it if you talk to us politely. I've been in a KQ where this person kept dying (which got really annoying), but when they asked "sorry, can you please res?" I immediately loved them despite how many times they died.

Most of us aren't evil people, and if you treat us nicely, you will be treated in the same manner in return. If there's a whole bunch of dead people including you, and you are DESPERATE for revive, just ask us politely with a "please" (full spelling, you will have time to type that since you're just lying there) and we might consider reviving you before everyone else! Trust me, you'd get a bigger chance of being revived compared to others. Going "RESS RESS I'M DESPERATE RES PLSSSSS!!" doesn't help you. Ok, we get the idea, we see you dead on the ground, but you're overdoing it. Those capital letters makes my eyes bleed and PLS makes me want to stab you in the chest.

If you say "Sorry, can you revive please?" WE WILL LOVE YOU UNCONDITIONALLY! Well, I will anyway. <_<

The point of this thread
is not to tell you clerics rule, worship them, obey everything they say (or you can, if you want, xD!), but to just give them a little respect if they're trying their best. If you see a lousy cleric doing nothing, yell at them! We (the good clerics) don't care! We'd yell at them too for not helping with the support! But if we're healing like there's no tomorrow, reviving like we've never revived before, then be a little more patient. Thanks.

Anyway. This took me forever to type this up. I really doubt anyone out there will really read every single word of this... but yeah, ranting is my special ability and I guess I always go overboard when it comes to complaining. XD!

I'm glad you've written this. I think now some people will have insight about how the cleric feels, or at least how you feel lol.


I don't know if it's my helpful nature but I can't really help but disagree. It's better to start off with asking them why they aren't doing anything politely, and then proceed to call them insulting names (if they don't say anything or say something stupid, take it as an oppurtunity to freely vent your anger). If you start with screaming at them right off the bat, chances are they won't be changing their playstyle any time soon for you.

Anyway, good stuff.

LOL! :3

Ah yeah, I should edit and put that in. It must be because today I've seen way too many people standing around doing nothing in KQs, making me keep thinking when they stand there they don't do anything! Dx I'll change that right away, =D!

Edited it. xD

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Always keep 2 heal slaves in my party, that way its perfectly reasonable for me to b**ch at them if someone dies

Yes i'm horrible to my clerics but i love em. There always there to blame if i fail at keeping agro. :D

ya i'm not getting healed again after this am i?...

This thread made me register... XD

I think the first thing I'll do is send this to my wonderful friend who happens to be a mage; who also thinks I'm their personal healing machine whenever he goes grinding. He complains on how many stones he has to use to get from one point to the other and then blames me for not healing him when he dies when he clearly sees that I'm getting hit by 2-3 monsters at the same time x.x Then he tells me that he doesn't use the stones because he's thinking that I'm going to heal him. -_-' I do love him, but that is pretty annoying >.O.

The sad thing about all this, that all you say is true. ._. Being the only cleric in a KQ is a nightmare x.x And in the end some people won't even thank you for it. Sure there's some nice people that bother thanking you, but most just don't really care.

Even sadder thing is, that the same happens in all the games I've played, maybe all of them, period. >_>

I actually read every word of that....

I try to take the time to thank all the clerics (and other classes) after beating a KQ or bosses if I'm the main tank, because I personally feel that without them, I would have failed miserably, and feeling that vulnerable and weak really makes me appreciate others. Similarly, I hate asking for a revive, because I don't want to feel that I am leeching off the clerics because others might need the revive more than me, so i tend to wait for 1-1.5 min then just respawn if i dont get revived. I may just be one of few though...

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So Ive heard.

Welcome.

This made me laugh. Anyway as for archers acting as tanks is pretty weird. I'm an archer, and I can tank some monsters, but to tank someone that has a red field for you... I call that a rather peculiar form of suicide. I only do that when I see that my KQ is screwed.

EDIT:How long did it take you to type this wall of text O.o?

Well we don't mind if you ask for revive as long as you're polite about it! =D I would actually personally prefer you to ask. Sometimes I get annoyed at myself if I didn't see someone die, then turn around to see them lying there since forever. It'd also give us some time to revive you. If you have 30 seconds left before being spawned to town, we might not come in time since revive has a casting time as well. So do go ahead and ask, you aren't leeching us off at all. Our skill is there for us to use. xD What I mean is just not scream at us for it, hehe.

Welcome to FiestaFan! I hope it'll make a difference to your friend after you've shown it to him!

Oh, if I'm on my cleric, I would always ask for revive if I can (or they have time to revive me). I would revive another cleric before anyone else if I was to do the reviving. I'd hate to lose a cleric during a KQ because they had to get spawned to town and become the only cleric or something. Dx

Can't remember. Probably about an hour, lol!

Phew, first post in a while where you don't defile me.

You know, I was actually tempted to put down the bottom "AND NO HEALING FOR ANYONE WHO MSN'S DURING KQ!" But I thought "nah, only stupid stinky people do that", so I didn't. xD]

And ew, you're still an ice vivi. >_________________________________>"

honstly i agree with every word of that. The sad thing is its becoming a more frequent thing now. However the majority of people are still polite in asking and reciving a rez so Good Job guys.

Side Note: I have gotten a lot of **** in KQ from some people =P

Wooo go Blaaah! You hit the nail right on the head!

You have too much time on your hands. Seriously.

All of this can be shortened down to "We, Clerics, Res/Heal whenever/whoever we feel like - so STFU."

^ This post is epic win.

I'd love to say that, but I'd get even more fustrated because I would get a "BUT U CLERIC U DO UR JOB U REVIVE MI OK? U BAD CLERIC! -inserts swear words-" in return. >______>"

they not called heals...they called lights...likenowai!

It's their job as fighters to stay alive, no?

But they expect clerics to heal them and keep them alive no matter what. I'm not saying all fighters do, but just some assholes out there. Some people like to blame everything on everyone else and act like they're doing everything. It's those people I'm hoping to read this, although the chance of that is... zero.

You have way too much free time, my friend. Way too much.

And although the clerics do have feelings, there are those who can be just plain asses. Eg. Once I was killed in a KQ during Gold Mine Boss, and that was my last life. I understood that I shouldn't expect a revival anytime soon cause all of the clerics were in combat, so I waited. But after the death of the boss, I had 30 secs left and I asked for a revive. Not a single one moved. I tried again and again, but nobody responded. So everyone got sent to elderine, and I was the only one without a prize, cause some people are apparently too lazy to press a few buttons.

Yer I hate clerics with that. Today when I did my last KQs, there was a time when a lot of people died (for some random reason), and I was reviving one of them. Then this other cleric ran past and I was like "hey can you revive the other people?" and he just continued to run past! I was like wth. >____>" Stupid.

Probably not.

Ha. When the fighters are idiots and die, guess who become tanks? Clerics.

A good example of this was a Golden Hill KQ I was in. The idiot fighters didn't even wait for revival, and simply pressed move. They were too cheap to use stones/pots either, which was pissing me off. There were 3 clerics in that KQ, we had our hands full keeping others alive, and when people died...they pressed that lovely blue button with "Move" on it.

In the end, I, being the highest level cleric there...became the tank. We actually won, believe it or not.

Lol yeah, let's just say, there are bound to be idiots from every class. Stupid fighters who don't pot/tank propblems, stupid clerics who doesn't bother healing/reviving and stupid archers/mages running into all the mobs and dying. This thread was just a rant for the clerics. =D I believe a lot of people would have ranted just as much about crappy clerics anyway!

Bottom line:

Everyone is an asshole until proven innocent.

Everyone is an asshole until proven innocent.

ROFL LMFAO I LOVE THAT LINE ITS GENIUS