How to decide YOUR Archer's build.
 

Everyone is posting for other peoples Archers builds. I've put this little post together and I'm thinking of putting it on the wiki.(as soon as i figure out how the wiki works.:()

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An Archer basically need 3 or 4 stats. They don't need INT because they don't use magic. END and DEX will decide your DEF and STR and SPR will decide your damage. So i decided to compare them.

DEX VS. END
Some people say to put some points in END. I personally don't recommend END. I say put them in DEX. Why? Because you also get up your aim and use less money on pots. Because with DEX you dodge more so you don't lose any HP. Put
it this way. Would you rather get hit more often but lose less HP OR get hit less often but loss alot of HP. But a bonus with DEX is you get aim and will hit the enemy more. Also i would like to add every lvl you get around 3 points on DEX automatically. Plus rings are good if you really want some END. So in conclusion DEX over END but you could have some points in END if you feel you need them.

DEX IS THE WINNER.

STR VS. SPR
This one is all in opinion. STR raises your general damage while SPR raises your crit %, m. defense, and your max SP. Weigh out the options and SPR looks like it will benefit you more. Well... It does look like that but I say have a little bit of both. Why? Because if you get up your STR and SPR you have higher damage and good crit % and good SP and good M. defense.

IT'S A TIE!

Stat Descriptions
STR- Increases damage.(MAIN)
DEX- Increases aim and evasion. (MAIN)
END- Increases HP and def.
SPR- Increases M. defense, crit %, and max SP.

What Archer are you?
What Archer do you wanna be. Do you wanna kite? Do you wanna be able to solo? Party? Or KQ? Do you wanna be a damage dealer or have good DEF. Do you wanna pvp or pve more. Answer these question and it will help you decide what builds to be.

Builds
Here are a list of builds I have found or made. (You can add to them if you want.)

My Build.
3:2:1 DEX: STR: SPR This is my build for my archer. It suits my playing style well. The reason i have good dmg and evasion. I also have good aim. I have enough SP so i can use my skills alot and i do crit often.

Basic Build.
1:1 STR: DEX. This is the generic build for any archer. It focuses on both the archers main stats. Although later on in the 30's I suggest some SPR.

Party Build.
2:2:1 STR: SPR: DEX. Why is this party. Because it allows for good damage and good aim. Making you a good damage dealer. If you do end up soloing with this prepare for alot of pots and stones.

Solo build.
2:2:1 DEX: STR: END. This is a good solo build because it has good DEF and good damage. And you won't need alot of pots and stones.

Damage build.
3:3:1 STR: SPR: DEX. This is also a good pvp build because you maximize damage. Enough said.

Defense build.
1:1 DEX: END. Don't really recommond this. It has it's uses in pvp and does help in pve. It maximizes DEF.

All those builds are useful in pvp and pve. I just highlighted it's main purpose.

Professions
Scroll Production: I recommend for the buffs you get. Also good for money.
Potion Production: A great profession for the archer as you get lots of potions that heal good and can sell for alot.
Stone Production: Probably the best profession for money.

I don't recommend any other professions. But it's your call.

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Hope you enjoyed my little guide. Well bye!

Chriszed.

I find your reasoning with both the strength vs spirit build and dexterity vs endurance build debate a little lopsided. You're not taking into account the significance of the numbers properly. The damage acquired from strength really isn't that useful, and it shows more and more as you venture into the higher levels. Strength is replaceable, but criticals are a slightly more elusive stat to gain. There are five sources to get critical from (scrolls, potions, earrings,weapons, stats) but about seven for strength (potions, body armors, boots, leggings, weapons, boots and stats). Taking into account the numbers, it's possible to get 16-17% critical by level 50 if you use a pure spirit build. That's one in five attacks that are going to be criticals. If you land one critical in a battle, it more than covers the damage you would've gotten from the damage gained through strength. If you waste points into strength using your suggested builds the figure for criticals will waver by ~2.5- 5%. Not a very nice loss.

Dexterity is unreliable compared to endurance. No one really knows the figures, so we can't say it'll really save you that much more in terms of money and HP. I'd also like to add that power scrolls > dexterity. Although personally I find both stats fairly unnecessary on an archer, as we get adequate amounts of both stats from levelling alone.

i agree with dynamics, very good guide though

Remember you get less crit per SPR past lvl25. I still wouldn't get Str though. v.v

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Same with DEX (AGI) also. You get less evasion and hit rate per DEX as you get higher.

Yeah, sorry about that. I did the calculations too quickly, I'll edit it now.

Full SPR > Everything Else..

Currently, my level 23 Archer has.. 12.3% Critical Rate, and I'm loving it so much.

And to correct Rightclaw, you drop from 0.2% to 0.1% per SPR when you reach 25 SPR, which is at level 20 for Full SPR Build Archers.

I agree with your builds. The reason i like my build is i'm lvl 23 and i dodge every 2/3 attacks. I crit every 3/20 attacks. My average hit on someone is around 100. I'm going SPR over STR now because i see your points. the reason i put a tie is because some people may agree differently. Can people tell me their builds and their effects.

Hehe, thanks. I thought that meant level. v.v

Build: Pure spirit.
Effect: Pure ownage.

amigawd Synelia plvl'd me. :3 300 exp per monster ftw. I think I leveled up twice in about 25 minutes. x3

<3u Syn. D:

And yes, Pure SPR is full of pwn and win.

My main build is 1:1 Dex:Spr, cause I want the enemies to miss me a lot while I crit them to death.

I'm going that in OB.

i dont agree at all with u on dex vs end, if u use dex your aim and EVASION go up, evasion isnt how much u dodge its how u EVADE the enemy, it only judges how much time u can fight the enemy before they start walking to u. i hav 20 end and i block a good portain of attacks, now it says MISS above your head but i call it a block, dex and end are oposites: dex makes u hit the enemy more;end makes the enemy hit u less

my build is 1:2 Dex:End, its good.

Actually dexterity consists of both aim and evasion. The block from endurance is only taken in to account if you're wielding a shield. When you block an attack the word "block" will appear, not "miss." The word miss will appear once you dodge an attack. I don't recommend endurance for an archer at all, as you don't utilize the block without wielding a shield. If you haven't realised, archers don't use shields.


That isn't the concept of evasion at all. That's "aggro." Aggro is enemy aggression, and is generally produced after attacking an enemy. A lot of monsters have pre-generated aggro which will activate by merely walking by them. Evasion is the chance you have to dodge an enemy attack, it's calculated by your evasion vs. enemy aim. Try not to confuse them again.

In this game, aggro mobs will chase after you if you are in their line of sight or nearby. DEX doesn't factor into it.

Im doing this build Str: Dex 2:1.
I see that is very similar to the basic one.
But every one creates its own difference. Or no?

RE:
 

My reasoning is almost silmilar to Chriszed except that i have made observations myself with the class. Pros & Cons of an Archer class, Bow vs xbow, Empowerment of skills etc can be found on this link http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15095:)

I'm thinking of doing 25 SPR, then 1:1 Dex:End o.o...
Is that a sucky build Dx? Someone advice me >.>;

Going 3 stats is a bit shaky, while dumping in 2 stats is more sturdy.

IMHO End>Dex because the effect of monsters missing you when you add points to dex really isn't that noticeable. Plus archers get a lot of dex in their base stats so...

soooo... D:?

Full spr? or 25 spr, then rest dex? iono... ; ;..

25 spr, then the rest end.

Would it better if I went 25 spr and the rest Dex? Would that be better for a build for a more attack "tank" oriented archer?

If you're trying to be a "tank archer", you want END, not DEX. Definitely. I've seen some impressive archer tanking in goblin camp and CP, and both archers I saw were SPR/END.

Yea that might be something I want. I still got some time to decided. What would I be if I put it on Dex?

i don't prefer DEX above END
later in theg ame a monster will hit you defenetly and then its 1 hit dead so if you rais your def and hp you won't be dead instantly
END wins

Kk, I've decided I'm going End. Its the most logical choice.

Thanks for all the help guys XD

^_^ I kinda randomly click the things... but more on End and damage and evasion... :)

I think I might go 3:2:1 str:dex:spr, or should I go 2:1 str:dex?

Well going on three Stats is a little risky its better to just do two, I wouldnt chose any. Str isnt as good as End, I'm going on a 25SPR and the Rest end build, that way I will hit many more criticals, doing more damage than with Str, and End to raise my SP so I can keep on casting my skills and doing more criticals.

Dex isnt really something you should put your Stat points either unless you don't want to get hit as often, but not hit as high to. I would rather do more damage and take a little more damage, then maybe not take that much damage but also not doing much damage.

The best of the two would eb 3:2:1 str:dex:spr build, but I would reconsider your stats.

Just my two cents :D

Archers confuse me so ; ;

it depends how you play, I wanted damage and good damage at that. I have 20 spr, the rest is going into str. I might get 25 spr later. People who say str is useless are so far off it's no funny. It does depend what you fight too. The str you add to stats IGNORE enemy defence. Let's compare 25 spr and 25 str. 25 spr will let me crit 5% more, so let's say 5% more damage. Now if you fight yellow / red mobs like I do, a non str archer might deal say 100 per shot. Now I put 25 into str, and deal 30 more damage. That is, I deal 130 damage PER SHOT. That's 30% more damage. Off course, if you're fighting lowe def mobs and deal say 200 per shot, 25 str will make it 230 per shot, adding only 15% more damage. BUT it still adds more then the crit from spr. I know a lot of archers who like dex too, and that's their choice. It does work if you like relying on poisons and bleed, etc. About end, i'd say just forget about it and use endurance rings and items for hp / def if you really need them. Lastly, a high damage build like mine allows me to work as a second tank when neccessary AND keep aggro.

I've been pondering about this for a while now. If you ask me, END falls off first, for the simple reason that you don't use shields as an archer.

Here's what I think:
Adding 25 SPR points as soon as possible. So starting for level 1 you should have 25 SPR by level 20 (if you've done the job change quest).
5% chance to crit for 25 points is reasonable.

After that, it gets difficult, since we don't know the exact numbers. So my guess here is quiet a long shot.
I would say STR: DEX at 2:1 if you solo sometimes and full STR:SPR at 2:1 if you always play in party and don't need any type of defense.

For the first build you'll have a stable damage for grinding, that's for sure. Although I have no idea how good DEX will be, but adding it like this plus the amount you get each level should give you enough chances to keep dodging attacks.

The other build is to maximize damage. I don't think going full SPR will give you big differences. 10 SPR = 1% crit, 10 STR = 12 damage (which isn't impressive either). Though a problem is that at higher levels, 12 damage is as good as nothing.

I call for some balancing issues.

So is increasing SPR after 25 even necessary? The rate at which you are criting doesn't increase very much. I'm thinking of full str after I hit 25 SPR. Comments?

25 SPR is a must. It might not seem like alot in percentage but you do hit more crits often. Full Str will give you slightly higher dmg constantly but I went full End becasue I would get higher Hp and become a tank archer.

So it seems to me that after you hit 25 spr you should either continue pumping only spr or go full into another stat. If I wanted a dps archer would full str or full spr after hitting 25 spr be recommended? Seeing as your crit rate will increase only .1% every stat point put in after 25 spr, that's 1% per 10 levels...or am I missing something? It seems to me that str would be the logical choice?

And for doing a 1:1 ratio for str and spr after 25 spr seems ineffective to me. You aren't boosting your crit rate quickly enough for it to make much of a difference? Comments please.

Yes it is best for going full after 25 Spr.

Full str or spr?

Probably meanst full STR.

Mkay. Thanks.