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Zwivix 04-30-2008 03:14 PM

Welcome GL's to Fiesta
 
I guess we know how Game Leaders...Community Leaders but in-game...I just saw this and it seems Outspark is adding more people to their in-game team.

Check the whole story here
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...eenshot150.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...eenshot183.jpg
Seems their just regular players with bot killing powers ^^

booyah8876 04-30-2008 03:21 PM

omg wtf.

I foresee people thinking they're better than everyone because they have that tag.

But I saw something on Teva yesterday that made me, "Que?"

I saw [GM]Frank make an announcement saying "Congratulations for slaying the dragon!"

>.>;;

Vasu 04-30-2008 03:23 PM

Just regular players or can they change their lvl at will? Maybe they can be anywhere between 1 and 79...if not 150 like the GMs.

Zwivix 04-30-2008 03:25 PM

No I dont think they can change their levels. Becasue I saw alot of screenies of them getting pwned by high levels. It's kindda like the RuneScape Mods probably...
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Yes everyone is gonna wanna be like them and worship them like they do the CL's...>.>

Vasu 04-30-2008 03:27 PM

So what's the criteria Outspark is using to make people GLs?

Yosei 04-30-2008 03:32 PM

I wonder if they're outspark staff or CLs in disguise o.o

Zwivix 04-30-2008 03:39 PM

We dont have alot of information yet on them. But I dont think their outspark staff or else why would they be so weak Outspark would probably make their staff higher level. Nah I dont think that the CL's are the GL's, well I hope not that would give them too much power...

Vasu 04-30-2008 03:40 PM

Here's the official forums thread about them...the thread isn't official lol.

Zwivix 04-30-2008 03:40 PM

Uhh i put that link on my first post ^^

Yosei 04-30-2008 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zwivix (Post 135448)
We dont have alot of information yet on them. But I dont think their outspark staff or else why would they be so weak Outspark would probably make their staff higher level. Nah I dont think that the CL's are the GL's, well I hope not that would give them too much power...

Not necessarily. I remember when I first saw SnakeEyes, he was only level 59, he said he didn't have time to make his char higher yet.

Zwivix 04-30-2008 03:47 PM

Really? Huh, well I guess someone can PM a GM and ask them. Or we can wait for an official announcement on them.

Spirit 04-30-2008 03:51 PM

Why did they close the thread.

Vasu 04-30-2008 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zwivix (Post 135451)
Uhh i put that link on my first post ^^

Oh sorry..the underline in the link clashed with the border of the screeny..so...

Yosei 04-30-2008 04:18 PM

Dunno, but apparently they are regular players that are remaining anonymous o.O

Vasu 04-30-2008 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spirit (Post 135459)
Why did they close the thread.

Serric said "It has come to the point where I must close the thread"
I don't see why...there was only talk of drowning hamsters...:eek:

Yosei 04-30-2008 04:29 PM

Probably because the thread had gone off topic? Ah well.

Zwivix 04-30-2008 05:06 PM

Well at least we got the new out.

MaxOff 04-30-2008 05:08 PM

ohh that will so not work...

i wont have to wait long until the first reports come in, of a gl that jailed/banned a person he didn't liked. Or when he gives his friends items, etc.

That is the worst decission Outspark has ever made!

Lady-Loki 04-30-2008 11:51 PM

I would gladly be a GL - no perks, no comps - just the pure ability to zap a bot to prison till the GM's could sort through them.

Ivramire 04-30-2008 11:56 PM

I still think a player-nomination system is better than any Player-moderator.


Like there's a bot KSing people in CP and it's very clearly a bot. Have something like a 'designate bot' function/button where people in the map get an announcement that xxx player was deemed a bot and it's co-ordinates. If enough in the people in the map also think it's a bot, they vote on it and the character is sent to jail.

Hessah 05-01-2008 12:09 AM

Sounds interesting.

at 1st i was like "OH NOES wat i didnt want has come to Fiesta!"

but when i thought again, maybe it means we wont have anymore spam bots in town. I've been getting so many whispers by bots its annoying me!

(Although, Serric said CL have the ability to Jail people too, but there's still bots around... hmmm)

Looks like people finds that a [GL] tags also means "kill me" in PVP zone.. they're gonna have a hard time in Battlefield / Battlezone...

Hyper 05-01-2008 12:16 AM

Awww. I wish I had been chosen.

Yes, there are the free CS items, the exclusive things that they can use for free that the public can't use, and when they can it will be for a HUGE price, but I really would have done my best to get rid of bots and/or trainers!

And I've never even heard of this "Nei" character... You'd think that a GL would need at least some posts on the forum?

Hessah 05-01-2008 12:19 AM

In exchange for a cool dragon to fly in.... you're gonna be hammered by a lot of players that you've never met and have done nothing to....

You've gotta have lotsa patience i think....

Kyrillos 05-01-2008 12:42 AM

....from what I just read, I think Serric is afraid of people finding something out. He got awfully huffy over very little just there.

Maybe the GL's are actually CL's, unlike what was said, and that there was an effort to hide/cover-up the truth?

...You would THINK that there would be some sort of information regarding how someone aspiring to be a GL or an announcement of their introduction to the game would be here.

Conspiricy/10

Ivramire 05-01-2008 12:46 AM

If it is something like that^

...people should be pissed...

Kyrillos 05-01-2008 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lvramire (Post 135626)
If it is something like that^

...people should be pissed...

Until I see an official announcement from SnakeEyes/Dakkon/SKiNG otherwise, I'm not going to pass judgement on whether I think "Nei/Nel" or whomever that person's name was. I do believe it is NOT a GM, but I also cannot believe, at the moment, that the person is NOT a pre-existing moderator.

Triumph 05-01-2008 01:56 AM

Foolish move.

Outspark's selection Community Leaders was bad enough; reading some of their posts, they are often woefully incompetent in their assessment of Fiesta. The selection appears to be solely on activity: the more active, the more likely you acquire status. I am willing to wager that at least one obtained rank through obsequiousness, considering his or her behavior on another forum unaffiliated with this game and company.

As for giving free cash items to these users, along with server-wide shout permissions, I truly question the tact of Outspark. While paying customers pay—myself included—to enjoy a bonus feature of the game, many issues remain prominent, many of the potent skills remain unreleased. Oh yes, let's make—and I quote a high ranking official here—more money rather than fix things! I am well aware of the "fixes" that have surfaced, at any rate. Certain members of this forum could probably fix the errors faster than the officials. Interestingly enough, quests that have broken from the first day of OB release remain broken, but they are able to repair the Earth Day HP Potion rather quickly. Coincidence? I think not.

This applies to the selection of GL's. I strongly doubt that these users were appointed based on experience. Activity is understandable, obsequiousness is amusing if it is a guideline to worming into favor.

Conclusion: Outspark staff doesn't appear to really think things through. There is no problem with granting certain "respected" individuals power to moderate forums, but I wonder how cash items in-game help moderate the forums. To quote directly what the Community Leader's role is:

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordalden, Official OutSpark Forums
Hey guys, lordalden here, and I'd like to say, thank you for reading this, and having an interest in helping us, the Community Leaders. As you may know, we are charged with keeping the peace in the forums in a as dually beneficial way as we can, but it's also true that we may miss some threads or posts, and we'd like your help on this, too.

So by all means, we encourage you to report to us any posts you may find of questionable in content or in context. You may directly report the post via the "Report Post" function in each post, or by private messaging us a link of the thread in question and we'll work on it right away.

As always, thank you for reading, and thanks for any and all help you may render in this matter in the near future!

Sincerely,

Lord Alden

PS: Don't forget, come and talk to us sometimes too! We love to chat, ya know!

Game, set, match. Got off topic a bit, but the point is clear.

MaxOff 05-01-2008 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyrillos (Post 135622)
Maybe the GL's are actually CL's, unlike what was said, and that there was an effort to hide/cover-up the truth?
Conspiricy/10

i actually thought about that, too.... yet no proof.

I only remember GameHelper, aka centrix, running around in uru with lv80 equip.

+Tequila+ 05-01-2008 02:39 AM

I dont think there is any idea worse then giving people unofficially associated with Outspark power ingame. Like MaxOff say it'll only be a matter of weeks *months at the most* before someone is banned because the GL didn'*t like that person. I've already had one of the CL's*lordalden* act a moron with me on another game*Holic* and after I said was gonna air his dirty laundry out on FF he decided to *introduce* himself to the community. If you are gonna appoint certain people to positions like that lol at least give the players the chance to say yes or no.

Loveless 05-01-2008 04:35 AM

... Apparently that GL has the power to summon mobs too. Had a friend in Epith tell me that he was passing by with his dragon. Stopped to let her take a screenshot and summoned slimes for her to play with.

I don't know what to say about these guys. If it was an official staff, wouldn't they have introduced themselves already BEFORE going in game? Just a thought.

Oh yes, and one of the members on the official forums did PM Dakkon(?) about the GL and he confirmed it. So I don't know.

Hessah 05-01-2008 05:10 AM

I think they said they PMed SnakeEyes and confirmed it.

Apparently these GLs are there to help GMs with events and things like that, so maybe that's why they have the ability tosummon monsters...

but hey isnt that a bit unfair that they can summon a heap of mobs and then solo it themselves or something?! surely they shouldnt be allowed to summon watever they want whenever they want...?

So all of a sudden these normal players.... cannot plan the normal game anymore O_O

Loveless 05-01-2008 05:15 AM

It's all probably just a matter of time before something goes wrong. :3 I like this game but it will be unfortunate.

Hessah 05-01-2008 05:32 AM

yeah i can see that... i think we should be more concerned about how GM deals with things when it goes wrong... (will they stand on the GL side and stuff up the way the rest of us play? Or will they act properly and compensate on watever gone wrong...)

Yosei 05-01-2008 05:39 AM

I don't have an opinion on the individuals, but I do feel kind of uncomfortable with them giving such powers to players. Not saying they will abuse their powers. But there may be a bad apple down the line.

I hope they chose the right people.

Vasu 05-01-2008 05:56 AM

If they aren't employees, and have almost any power a GM has except changing their levels (they might even be able to do this:eek:), then Outspark is looking for trouble.

Loveless 05-01-2008 06:20 AM

Yeah. You never know... a nice person may actually have a hidden agenda down the road.

When you think about it. If they did give these powers to a normal player they really have nothing to lose if they abuse their power. So they'd get a perma ban but so what? It's not like they'll be fired if they were just normal "volunteers" to begin with. The harm will be done when abuse happens. Of course it's not like I'm saying GLs are bad, they'll abuse it but it is a possibility nonetheless.

+Tequila+ 05-01-2008 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loveless (Post 135811)
Yeah. You never know... a nice person may actually have a hidden agenda down the road.

When you think about it. If they did give these powers to a normal player they really have nothing to lose if they abuse their power. So they'd get a perma ban but so what? It's not like they'll be fired if they were just normal "volunteers" to begin with. The harm will be done when abuse happens. Of course it's not like I'm saying GLs are bad, they'll abuse it but it is a possibility nonetheless.

QTF. I don't really think Outspark thinks ahead when they make situations. They things they do regarding already confirms what most people already know that they know zilch about running a mmo. You don't give random people guns and put them in a crowd of people and tell them not to use it unless its for good. There will always be that one that decides to get even with someone or just wants to see how it feels. Giving ordinary players ban powers and the ability to spawn mobs is just asking for trouble lol. Remember Steam? And his fondness of spawning mini-dragons on player shops. This situation reminds me of it ^.^.

Hessah 05-01-2008 06:29 AM

Outsparks says: Free labour! why not!

I guess we'll see how they go!!

But if they start spawning mobs in town, killing shops and it's NOT an official event, then i'd be pissed.

But surely, they've signed an agreement that wont allow them to do that.................. surely.......... (cant even convince myself)

Loveless 05-01-2008 07:20 AM

Aw, but I liked Steam and his dragons and his exp events. It made Apoline special... <3

Centrix 05-01-2008 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zwivix (Post 135443)
No I dont think they can change their levels. Becasue I saw alot of screenies of them getting pwned by high levels. It's kindda like the RuneScape Mods probably...
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Yes everyone is gonna wanna be like them and worship them like they do the CL's...>.>

Be careful of what you're saying. We have a lot of haters :(


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