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Yosei 04-15-2008 12:41 AM

Keep it Alive!
 
I made a suggestion in the feedback forum on the main forums, you guys should help keep it alive if you agree with it.

http://outspark.com/forums/showthrea...920#post594920

Hyper 04-15-2008 12:51 AM

Agreed, but it might be too much work. D:

And the updates aren't just the files patched on to your game folder, most is on the server. They would probably have to make a test server... Sounds fun. =D

Yosei 04-15-2008 12:53 AM

I think its worth it IMO. I'd rather than than risk having something happen to like 50% of the games population.

Lackluster 04-15-2008 01:06 AM

Lolwut?

This is what Fiesta has come to in my absence?

viasta 04-15-2008 01:16 AM

they could put a test server for the patches

Loveless 04-15-2008 01:23 AM

Yeah, test servers are probably the best option. Outspark can test all they want at their offices but they only have certain types of computers and operating systems to work with.

It's much like how when I use a certain font to build a website to make it look nice but people who do not have that font will see ugliness on their computer.

viasta 04-15-2008 01:35 AM

viasta once again came up with brilliant idea :P, viasta should be an owner of a sponsor site for games.
viasta never talks in 3rd person, just for this post, viasta feels like it, feel like posting in 3rd person.

Hyper 04-15-2008 01:59 AM

F.Y.I, viasta, the test server was my idea. D<

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lackluster (Post 125932)
Lolwut?

This is what Fiesta has come to in my absence?

Lackluster is back?! Rightflaw cried everynight without you here. xD

viasta 04-15-2008 02:05 AM

fine, we can both own a sponsor company :P
I would do it, but too lazy to buy an office building :/
laziness +10

SKiNG 04-19-2008 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yosei (Post 125918)
I made a suggestion in the feedback forum on the main forums, you guys should help keep it alive if you agree with it.

http://outspark.com/forums/showthrea...920#post594920

Replied.

Hyper 04-19-2008 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKiNG (Post 128419)
Replied.

Community features? 8D

Val (Dies_Arae) told me to tell you he wants new hair colors. ;D Black and pink, iirc?

MaxOff 04-19-2008 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKiNG
At his time it's a bit complicated. The test server we use requires you to reinstall everytime when moving from the test server to the live server or back to the test server.

Another big lie, or total incompetence on outsparks site. u can choose what fits best.

Reason: To change the game servers the only thing u have to do is change a 1 or 2 parameters(depending if u want to use a different PayShop) and the game connects to the new server.

The Client also has no problem on being installed 2 times, after all he doesn't use the registery. Even the Launcher can be configurated in a way so that he supports 2 different versions of fiesta, inclusive separate patch server, etc.

Edit:

I just remembered that when outspark was so nice to publish the source of the launcher i found a feature that changes the patch from the official to the debug patch server.... If they would actually use that feature i could understand SKING argumentation, but it just would emphasis there incompetence. :mad:
A smarter solutions would be to keep both version separate on the hd and in the launcher.
Tip: The fiesta test version is different game then the fiesta official version

Yosei 04-19-2008 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKiNG (Post 128419)
Replied.

Thanks for the reply.

SKiNG 04-19-2008 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxOff (Post 128421)
Another big lie, or total incompetence on outsparks site. u can choose what fits best.

Reason: To change the game servers the only thing u have to do is change a 1 or 2 parameters(depending if u want to use a different PayShop) and the game connects to the new server.

The Client also has no problem on being installed 2 times, after all he doesn't use the registery. Even the Launcher can be configurated in a way so that he supports 2 different versions of fiesta, inclusive separate patch server, etc.

Edit:

I just remembered that when outspark was so nice to publish the source of the launcher i found a feature that changes the patch from the official to the debug patch server.... If they would actually use that feature i could understand SKING argumentation, but it just would emphasis there incompetence. :mad:
A smarter solutions would be to keep both version separate on the hd and in the launcher.
Tip: The fiesta test version is different game then the fiesta official version

So quick to judge when I chose not to release certain information.

It's more about doing it right than doing it ghettofied. There are security issues to consider which I'm sure you know all about.

Lady-Loki 04-19-2008 05:44 PM

Is it possible to add a server to the regular server line-up that requires manual approval before a character can be created and then only manually approve testers for access?

(Same as I posted on the official forums)

Spirit 04-19-2008 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxOff (Post 128421)
Another big lie, or total incompetence on outsparks site. u can choose what fits best.

Reason: To change the game servers the only thing u have to do is change a 1 or 2 parameters(depending if u want to use a different PayShop) and the game connects to the new server.

The Client also has no problem on being installed 2 times, after all he doesn't use the registery. Even the Launcher can be configurated in a way so that he supports 2 different versions of fiesta, inclusive separate patch server, etc.

Edit:

I just remembered that when outspark was so nice to publish the source of the launcher i found a feature that changes the patch from the official to the debug patch server.... If they would actually use that feature i could understand SKING argumentation, but it just would emphasis there incompetence. :mad:
A smarter solutions would be to keep both version separate on the hd and in the launcher.
Tip: The fiesta test version is different game then the fiesta official version

@MaxOff - Please tread carefully. You are basically calling SKiNG a liar, and just because he is an actual employee of Outspark, does not change the rules that apply to this forum. Your first paragraph is flame-baiting. Although, I highly doubt that SKing would give in to you and respond with insults in return.

@Everyone. Please remember to keep your comments within our thread rules. Also, please remember that the Outspark staff does not even have to come on here and tell us sqat. They do it, because they want to. This is a fanbased site and they are the same as any other member when they log onto this site.

@SKiNG, thank you for replying to Yosei's thread and being open with us. Some of us really do appreciate the effort you are making.

Belaslav 04-19-2008 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spirit (Post 128468)
@MaxOff - Please tread carefully. You are basically calling SKiNG a liar, and just because he is an actual employee of Outspark, does not change the rules that apply to this forum. Your first paragraph is flame-baiting. Although, I highly doubt that SKing would give in to you and respond with insults in return.

*laughs at the thought*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spirit (Post 128468)
@Everyone. Please remember to keep your comments within our thread rules. Also, please remember that the Outspark staff does not even have to come on here and tell us sqat. They do it, because they want to. This is a fanbased site and they are the same as any other member when they log onto this site.

@SKiNG, thank you for replying to Yosei's thread and being open with us. Some of us really do appreciate the effort you are making.

I actually feel sorry for you guys at Outspark.

Quote:

When you do something right no one remembers ... when you do something wrong no one forgets...

Yosei 04-19-2008 07:36 PM

That bottom quote is so true.

Blaaaaaaaah 04-20-2008 01:51 AM

Community features...? o:

I actually have no idea what that is. Any guesses? LOL~

booyah8876 04-20-2008 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKiNG (Post 128434)
So quick to judge when I chose not to release certain information.

It's more about doing it right than doing it ghettofied. There are security issues to consider which I'm sure you know all about.

lolpwnt.

Honestly saying stuff when you don't have 100% of the info the people behind the scenes have is a little Naive. (can't do the "i" with oomlaut >.>)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 128721)
Community features...? o:

I actually have no idea what that is. Any guesses? LOL~

omg...

I hope something where people can host like Tournaments!

That would be WICKED AWESOME!

Jousting ftw.

GO RACOON GOOOOO!!!!

*stabs Hyper*

O SHI

*Falls off Racoon*

ouch =/

Hyper 04-20-2008 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booyah8876 (Post 128745)
lolpwnt.

Honestly saying stuff when you don't have 100% of the info the people behind the scenes have is a little Naive. (can't do the "i" with oomlaut >.>)


omg...

I hope something where people can host like Tournaments!

That would be WICKED AWESOME!

Jousting ftw.

GO RACOON GOOOOO!!!!

*stabs Hyper*

O SHI

*Falls off Racoon*

ouch =/

OMG, someone who actually knows what it's called! (@the grammatical mark.)

LOOOOL! Whiplash. :3


I'm guessing the community things will be more Fiesta-related. CS stuff?

booyah8876 04-20-2008 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperswoss (Post 128755)
OMG, someone who actually knows what it's called! (@the grammatical mark.)

LOOOOL! Whiplash. :3


I'm guessing the community things will be more Fiesta-related. CS stuff?

I wöüld häve nö ideä whät the little döts äre cälled... becäüse Germän döesn't üse äny öömläüts, right?

>.<;

And maybe CS events, and some for not...

I think it'll be like RS... but better in the sense that here the full game is available for all... and they're always working to improve for people that pay as well as don't. But there will be obvious things for CS users that other people won't get.

Belaslav 04-20-2008 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booyah8876 (Post 128762)
I wöüld häve nö ideä whät the little döts äre cälled... becäüse Germän döesn't üse äny öömläüts, right?

>.<;

*raises eyebrow*

K.
-Val.

MaxOff 04-20-2008 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sking
So quick to judge when I chose not to release certain information.

It's more about doing it right than doing it ghettofied. There are security issues to consider which I'm sure you know all about.

And sure i don't know all of it... so u could inform me, i always welcome information, and usually repay it with things i know.

My point was that there is no issue like reinstalling the client all the time. With little effort that problem can be eliminated. And it looks like u agree with me on that.
And i certainly agree on your security argument. After all a test server would a juicy target.

Quote:

Originally Posted by booyah8876
I wöüld häve nö ideä whät the little döts äre cälled... becäüse Germän döesn't üse äny öömläüts, right?

>.<;

Actually germans use ä, ö and ü. There are some kind of special a, o and u They are called "Umlaute"

booyah8876 04-20-2008 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxOff (Post 128815)

Actually germans use ä, ö and ü. There are some kind of special a, o and u They are called "Umlaute"

Du MUSST mir ja scheißen oda?

Kannst du da wirklich setzen, und sag was ich soll sagen über MEINE Sprache?!

Fick du Arschloch.

OOMLAUT!

Nicht diese blöde "Umlaute" scheiße du sprichts von.

Now tell me about German again?

.

Enraya 04-20-2008 03:54 AM

ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO @ Booyah xDDD
He probably didn't understand you were being sarcastic xD

o: Looks like a cool thread Yos!

booyah8876 04-20-2008 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightningmystix (Post 128822)
ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO @ Booyah xDDD
He probably didn't understand you were being sarcastic xD

o: Looks like a cool thread Yos!

Obviously.

No need to tell me how to do German.

*points to sig*

Because I don't know other languages.

/sarcasm!

EDIT:

And even if it was to be called "Umlaut" instead of "Oomlaut"...

making it plural based off German language would be "Umläute"

And now that Spell-Check is looking at the words I'm typing...

"Umlaut" is obviously the English version of how you would spell it.

It seems to be the correct version.

Sorry I'm used to my version... I'll adapt never.





And to Yosei (Yosay) xD

I like the idea... maybe the concept is easier thought of than done... and I posted my 2 cents :3

A_Forever 04-20-2008 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belaslav (Post 128763)
*raises eyebrow*

K.
-Val.

OffTopic: Mad at you.


-leaves thread-

Belaslav 04-20-2008 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxOff (Post 128815)
And sure i don't know all of it... so u could inform me, i always welcome information, and usually repay it with things i know.

My point was that there is no issue like reinstalling the client all the time. With little effort that problem can be eliminated. And it looks like u agree with me on that.
And i certainly agree on your security argument. After all a test server would a juicy target.

Dude, you are playing with matches near dynamite... Seriously.

Quote:

Originally Posted by A_Forever (Post 128872)
OffTopic: Mad at you.


-leaves thread-

LMAO!!

Dam that made me smile inside! And gave me a good laugh.:D

Thanks, A_For.

MaxOff 04-20-2008 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booyah8876 (Post 128820)
Du MUSST mir ja scheißen oda?

Kannst du da wirklich setzen, und sag was ich soll sagen über MEINE Sprache?!

Fick du Arschloch.

OOMLAUT!

Nicht diese blöde "Umlaute" scheiße du sprichts von.

Now tell me about German again?

.

Du kannst mal wirklich die fresse halten, und sag nicht noch mal son scheiß über MEINE Sprache!

Fick dich du Arschloch

OOMLAUT!

Nicht dieser bescheurte "Umlaut" wichs von dem du sprichts.


hehe dont try to beat an natural speaking german :), i changed your text so it sounds more casual. And modified the "Kraft Ausdrücke" so they fit a bit more. ;)

Blaaaaaaaah 04-20-2008 01:29 PM

o-o Back on topic please.

booyah8876 04-20-2008 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxOff (Post 129072)
Du kannst mal wirklich die fresse halten, und sag nicht noch mal son scheiß über MEINE Sprache!

Fick dich du Arschloch

OOMLAUT!

Nicht dieser bescheurte "Umlaut" wichs von dem du sprichts.


hehe dont try to beat an natural speaking german :), i changed your text so it sounds more casual. And modified the "Kraft Ausdrücke" so they fit a bit more. ;)

Wtf is your purpose here other than to be a jerk?

Es macht nichts, was ich sage. Ich habe "Oomlauts" gelernt.

Blaaaaaaaah 04-20-2008 01:51 PM

Stop flaming in each other or it will result in an infraction for both of you. Drop it.



---

Back on topic, if they get a group of users to test patches in the future, what does it usually take to be a tester in other games? Random or what? Wonder if those people have to "promise" not to tell others what's in the patch? I mean it's pretty hard to keep something low with so many people knowing. Then again, I don't see why they will need to do that if they're gonna release it for sure.

I dunno, haven't really been to any other games that did that soo.. /nub.

booyah8876 04-20-2008 01:54 PM

Sorry =/

And I've been a CBT for Pogo.com when they were going to try new games.

They give you access to a whole different site, then give you a logon/password that only you have. They give you something to e-sign, but most people let their friends have access to the account if they want to go try the new stuff before it's released.

I think that might happen too if Fiesta were to do anything.

I know that the CL's had to sign confidentiality agreements.

Centrix wouldn't tell me anything, other than "I can't tell you that."

=/

Belaslav 04-20-2008 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 129087)
Back on topic, if they get a group of users to test patches in the future, what does it usually take to be a tester in other games? Random or what? Wonder if those people have to "promise" not to tell others what's in the patch? I mean it's pretty hard to keep something low with so many people knowing. Then again, I don't see why they will need to do that if they're gonna release it for sure.

I dunno, haven't really been to any other games that did that soo.. /nub.

This is a Beta, right? People ARE supposed to test stuff.


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