Should I feel guilty?
 

I was walking through Elderine looking at what people are selling. Usually I can't afford anything becuase it is soo expensive and well being level 21 most people are selling lvl 5x and 6x stuff.

Well I found some green armor and bartered down to a good price.

But then I saw in a store a green level 30 axe +9 and the price was 1 silver.

I checked it twice making sure it wasn't a scam with a gold number hidden in there. So I ran (did not walk) and got the money ran back and bought the axe.

Now I just want to get to level 30 as quickly as possible. to use my new shiny axe.

So should I feel guilty?

No.
As someone who has actually priced things at copper instead of silver, I can tell you it is our mistake. We should double check. Plus with the way weapons drop these days they are getting hardder to sell. It may have been priced so low to simply help that person clean out their inventory.
I actually NPC'ed about 10 weapons this weekend because they won't sell and were taking up way too much space in my inventory. :)

Exactly what she said and look at it this way, at least YOU will use it and did not buy it cheap to turn around and mark the price up to get rich off it. You actually need it and it gives you incentive to level. :)

I have a problem with holding on to things. I still have my level 1-8 stuff.

sentimental value I guess.

as far as drops go do the weapons come later. All I seem to get on drops is rings. I have about 10 rings that I don't use.

i say u should feel guilty, after all u used someones error to your advantage.

If u were a really nice guy, u would give him his weapon back, after he comes online again.

You should feel a bit guilty, yes. You took advantage.

I saw somebody selling a statted level 40 cleric shield for 20 copper. I bought it straight away - nothing wrong with that, as if I hadn't, the next person to see would've. However, I wrote down the name of the seller and tried contacting them for a week. They were never online, so I've kept it. I tried to give it back - that's what you should've done.

So, if you go to the store and you find a really nice shirt that you want really bad to wear to an upcoming party and the price tag says $1.00, so you think, "Great awesome deal!!!" and go buy it, the sales clerk sells it to you for that price, but in actuality the shirt should have been priced at $100.00 - you gonna feel guilty? Are you gonna return the shirt to the store and say, "Ummm.... charge me another $99.00, please."
Not me. I'm gonna wear the shirt. In marketing, you win some and you lose some. It is up to the person selling the merchandise to make sure that they price it correctly. I can tell you from being a manager of a retail store, that if a clerk mismarks an item, you are bound to sell it as priced.
Not to mention that with the way weapons are not selling, he doesn't know for sure that they did not mark it at that price intentionally. He should not feel guity about finding a great weapon at a really good price.
I bought a level 60 staff last night (green, with decent stats) for only 50s. I then saw someone selling the exact same weapon for 150s. Hmm.... level 60 weapons (white) sell from the NPC at around 260s. I found a really great deal. It was a free drop, so the person I bought it from made 50s, could they have made more? Probably. Would I have bought it for 150s? Nope. I would have waited to see if I could get one to drop for me.
Maybe that person had already tried selling it for more and could not get it to sell.

To be honest
 

.. I didn't think about writing down the name of the individual, but if anyone hears of someone making that mistake and can verify the stats and specials that it has, I would give it back.

I only wish the individual that bought the green archer pants from me for 60c when I first started would do the same.

You posted at the same time I did, go back and read what I wrote and do not feel guilty. When I sold my level 5X Mage hat for 40C instead of 40s, did anyone ever contact me? Nope. You know what? MY fault. I should have checked.

Yeah dont feel guilty. It is people's fault for not checking the price they put. I've played other MMO's that people do that all the time, I actually know of people that look all day for people that mis-priced stuff.

Don't feel guilty. I've priced something in coppers too... and I don't even remember what I priced wrong. :P

After all it is just a bunch of pixels.

If you are going to feel guilty, then why buy it? Why put that feeling on yourslef. Leave it for the next person to come along and swipe it up. That way the guilt is not on you. :)

Spirit
 

I agree with you. I do not think that I will ever get contacted about the axe. It has some licenses that help identify it as different and I don't think anyone is going to be looking for me to give it back. That is why I put the whole 60c green LVL3x pants thing in there. noone has been looking to give me more money for the item.


Bottom line is, if it was a mistake, I am sorry about his loss. It's a game no one was really hurt by the transaction, it is not real life. In real life I have gone back to the store to pay the correct amount when something didn't ring up correctly, though I have never gotten a $100 shirt for a $1.

Hehe when i was running to eld storage one day, I wasn't hunting for them but I was in need of Copper ore HQ (to make lix[2]). I saw a store selling them and checked out the price. 4 full stacks were marked as 99c (4s 901c for the stack) but the fifth stack was marked 9c (450c for the full stack!) Hehe I hovered my mouse over that obvious mistake and was about to buy but i thought, " I would love it if someone PM'ed me and told me that i had made a mistake in my pricing." So what did I do?
I PM'ed, " Hello?" Wasn't even sure if they were watching the chat or if they were afk.
They replied with a "yes?"
"One of your stacks is 9c."
"Oh my gosh! Thank you so much!!! You have put my faith back in this game!!! I didn't know there were any honest people left!"
" :) you're welcome. Careful from now on ok? XD"

Now will someone else do the same for me one day? Dunno! Even if no one ever does me a favor that way, It felt kinda good to make one persons day!
:p

On the flip side I agree with Spirit that we are all accountable for the prices we set and oughta be double checkin (triple checkin for those uber high priced items!)!!! :D

You should not feel guilt. The responsibilty is on the seller to verify what he puts in his shop. If he does not check & double-check then he is the only one guilty in this case.

Had you not bought the item someone else most certainly would have, so the seller would still be without that item and would still have exactly the amount of coins he set his shop to sell for.

You do not need to feel guilty since you did nothing to cause that item to be sold at the price he set his shop for.

The above is addressing overpricing but would apply to underpricing also. The key point in the above is the bolded & underlined portion.

I'm new to this posting stuff... But if your comment is about the topic, how is it off topic? LOL:D

I saw some Dark Robo Earrings in a shop the other day for like 21s :| If I had known they actually go for around 200s, i'd have totally bought them. xD

Don't feel guilty about it, it's the sellers loss and your gain. He should have double checked his shop :P

the problem is not that the price was cheap, but it was clearly intended to be sold for 1g not 1s.

Everyone makes errors, but abusing them is immoral.

Ummm..... 1g for a level 30 weapon. If the seller meant to sell it for 1g, then I think they would have been overpricing it, even for a +9. You do not stay in your 30s long enough to justify paying 1g for a weapon.

To make a analogy:
lets say we have a person A. U know that person will be killed tomorrow. Would it be correct to kill A now? After all he would die tomorrow anyway.

While that analogy drives the whole point into the extreme, it makes one point clear: Just because someone else does/will act immoral, does not justify your actions. No matter what they are.

Their loss, but you shouldn't feel beat yourself up over it. Its just a game and it was their careless mistake.

Okay, so person A is going to die tomorrow. If you kill them today, you are taking away that one extra day that they have to live. One more day to tell their spouse they love them, one more day to tell their kids they love them, one more day to feel the sun shine on their face. But, for your extreme comparison, lets say that person A knows they are going to die and it is going to be a very violent and painful death, let throw a person B and C into the mix also. Person B, is willing to end Person A's life in a very humane and non-painful way (this being the buyer of the +9 axe to use for their on because they really need it). Person C, could care less about person A and decides they will kill person A in the same violent way they were going to die tomorrow (this being the person that wants to buy the weapon and resell it for thier own profit). Person A is going to die no matter what and apparently person A is going to die one day sooner than planned. Which is better?

Whhhooooooooooohhh
 

No one is getting killed here. I think that the person was selling their weapons cheap. A lot of high level weapons for 50s in the shop. I didn't think I was taking advatage of anyone.

First of all, it is a game. If you are playing chess and your opponent leaves a backdoor to a check mate open, do you not take advatage of it and get the win. You wouldn't tell your opponent that it was a bad move show him what his mistake could cost him and then let him do it over again.

In real life, that is different. One should take extra care to make sure that you treat everyone as you would want to be treated.

It is just a game.

Except that 'someone else' might have been somebody not selfish who would have done the right thing and returned it.

ummmm . . . . do we assume from this that as the OP you have now resolved this question within yourself?

I'm sorry, life is full of "What ifs" - what if the next person was you, would you still leave it for the next person and what if the next person after you was the scammer who took Booyah's money and what if the next person was . . . If you can't lock the item into the shop to prevent the next person in a what if then buy the weapon.

I'd bought it, Used it, and givin it to my fellow guild members after I'm done with it like I do all my stuff, even my +9 stuff. He/she may have intended to sell it for 1s, we don't know that he/she didn't. That person will learn from the mistake, if it was indeed a mistake, and get over it. Use it like you stole it and then give it to a player who will in turn use it. I myself have sold stuff way cheap like everyone else here, intending to help people out. That very well could have been the intention.

Should I feel guilty
 

[QUOTE=Lady-Loki;121972]ummmm . . . . do we assume from this that as the OP you have now resolved this question within yourself?

I am resloved and I don't feel guilty. This has started a debate that has gone longer and harder than I actually expected.

A game is a game.

OHH and to help with those that disagree with me not feeling guilty, when I get to a level that I no longe need or want the axe, I am going to give it away with the stipulation that the axe can never be sold but must be handed down from Fighter to Fighter for the rest of the game.

Now that makes it interesting. ;)

LOL! My L28 fighter, Lady Danae, shall contact you shortly!

Oh, nvm, she is already a 3X - LOL!

Hey I got to get to use it first. Ohhh I guess I could let you borrow it while I wait to get to 30.

So I'm just jumping into conversation (which is probably not the smartest thing, but oh well) to give my 2 cents.

Guilt is something you should know you will feel at the time of decision. If it affects you, then talk to them at that time and let them know their mistake. If it doesn't, then carry on with your day. It's not really a question to ask, its just based on personal moral. If anything, you just started a pretty heated debate (which is an awesome read btw), and you will just end up going with your initial gut instinct.

Personally I wouldn't feel guilty because it's something we all do and have gone through at one point or another. Not to mention they will (hopefully) learn from their mistake when they notice a load of money not in their inventory, and be more careful when putting things up for sale next time. And they accidentally just helped out a lower level. If it happened to me, and I found out someone level 20 bought a nice green real cheap from me, I'd be happy I helped them out. Who knows, maybe fiesta karma will give you some amazing drop for selling it so underpriced...

no..why feel guilty when the seller made a mistake like that??