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booyah8876 03-30-2008 09:49 PM

Mobs around NPC/Rich deserving? =/
 
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7...shot008bu9.jpg

I can't click on that guy but once in a million.

I know you all hate it too...

And also... while I'm ranting, I might as well talk about the stupid people who think that they have money, therefore they think they deserve stuff.

i.e.

Talking to someone when someone else ordered price check on Eld Ring.

Someone shouted 3g.

I lol'ed.

Someone said 5g.

I rofl'ed.

Then the talk about the worth of said ring was.

I said that it's pointless to pay that much for a ring.

Then this fine gentlemen decides to say that the stats are amazing.

I said not amazing enough for 3g or 5g.

He says..

and omg I quote...

"Because the drop rate is so low, only the rich deserve to have them."

disccusion?

I dare not speak my mind...

Ivramire 03-30-2008 10:00 PM

wow...that's just stupid =/


I remember when those rings were only 800s-1g. Now people are saying they're 3-5g? Bleh.


Also some of those people vending in Uruga, vending mediocre greens with +10dex or +9int for 5x Npc price >.>

Worse thing is, that prices tend to be set around what those people offer, so 5x Npc price becomes the mininum price for them.
The idiocy continues =/


Lol at the storage thing, at least someones not leaving their character in the Npc that time :3

Yosei 03-30-2008 10:09 PM

Deleted the other ;p

Also.. if theres someone who is standing right on top of the NPC. I mean, right on them, that it is apparently not on accident, you can report them.

Hessah 03-30-2008 10:13 PM

YEAAHHHHHH i hate that ppl stands ON NPC! but good thing about Fiesta is you can angle ur screen and eventually click on kyle.... might take a while but eventually it works....

and yeah... i think "deserve" is a bad word.... my bf has a ring of roumen or Elderine.. i cant remember... but we PICKED IT UP! although we're not as rich, we still deserved it!

according to that guy, i almost sounds like we should give up the ring and just hand it over to the rich for free or something...

but i reckon he meant "only rich ppl can afford it"....

Hyper 03-30-2008 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yosei (Post 117586)
Deleted the other ;p

Also.. if theres someone who is standing right on top of the NPC. I mean, right on them, that it is apparently not on accident, you can report them.

Could I have my post back...? xD In the place of this one?

Ivramire 03-30-2008 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 117591)
YEAAHHHHHH i hate that ppl stands ON NPC! but good thing about Fiesta is you can angle ur screen and eventually click on kyle.... might take a while but eventually it works....

shift+Z :3

booyah8876 03-30-2008 10:22 PM

OH SHI

Fux internet...

sorry guys.

=/

Teh interwebz...

it can't handle my rage

>.>;

But really... I think Skype is doing this, and it made me reload the page like 5 times.

I expected to see like 15 to be honest. =/

Hessah 03-30-2008 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lvramire (Post 117597)
shift+Z :3

err hmm... why hvnt i thought of that...

booyah8876 03-30-2008 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 117604)
err hmm... why hvnt i thought of that...

Too bad it doesn't work all the time.

I'm walking through Uruga, and I have to Shift+Z now. >.>;

But anyways...

all it tells me is,

"Please try again in a few minutes"

no matter how long I wait to do it again.

Triumph 03-30-2008 10:26 PM

What defines "rich"?

A level 1 may think that 1s is rich.

A level 30 may think that 100s is rich.

A level 50 may think that 1g is rich.

A level 70 may think that 1 gem is rich.

Merchants are the ones that drive the price up.

Hessah 03-30-2008 10:29 PM

Either uruga is not meant to be shift-z-able or it's bugged.. it never works....

booyah8876 03-30-2008 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triumph (Post 117606)
What defines "rich"?

A level 1 may think that 1s is rich.

A level 30 may think that 100s is rich.

A level 50 may think that 1g is rich.

A level 70 may think that 1 gem is rich.

Merchants are the ones that drive the price up.

QFT.

People buy mats...

someone else buys for higher price, so people will sell for the higher price...

then because of the mats costing so much, the price of the product raises.

Then people make other people have more money, and inflation goes crazy.

End result?

You can have like 180g by the end of the day, but then it means nothing because a T3 scroll will cost 200s ea.

But the guy that was talking to me asked me how much money I had...

and I told him that I had 1,5g after spending the 2,2g for my hammer.

he told me I wasn't rich...

because he had 2 rings of Eld, and +9 wep, and still like 4g.

I just don't understand it.

Ivramire 03-30-2008 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 117609)
Either uruga is not meant to be shift-z-able or it's bugged.. it never works....


maybe because there's mobs in uruga and not in the other towns?


Well, Roumen has the slimes, but they also dissapear when you Shift+Z. Unlike Elderine, when you 'hide' during an event, only players are hidden and the mobs remain.

Triumph 03-30-2008 10:35 PM

HQ Dogteeth are now worth 1s+ on the street...my friend pays 1.5s each.

All that does is drive the price of T3 scrolls up. Was selling T3 Vits at 5s, then when Dogteeth became 750c, I sold at 6s apiece. Now that they're worth 1s-1.5s, so I sell at 7s.

And that kind gentleman has nothing compared to the economy leaders.

Hessah 03-30-2008 10:46 PM

problem with Dogtooth HQ is that, they're a rather rare drop too... unless the meat and leather, these thing only drop like 1 per 20 kills or something... (or that's wat it felt like)

If more Dogtooth are dropped, ppl will have more to sell, and after the shop buying for 1.5s gets sold out... ppl will start selling it to shop pricing it at 1s... and so when ppl can buy things at 1s, why would they pay 1.5s for it?

so yeah.. now that there's more ppl demanding for it, (more vit 3 scrolls producers) and less drops... price goes up....


i think to stop the amount of money floating in the economy... they gotta start thinking about NPC selling premium items... coz at the moment, the money is just being passed between players, everyone gets richer and richer... things are only gonna get more and more expensive, coz everyone can afford more...

they gotta think about taking money back from the player....

Yosei 03-30-2008 10:51 PM

Also with what lvra said. Slimes are non-aggressive. The mobs in uruga are.

booyah8876 03-30-2008 10:51 PM

I think that in order to stabalize the economy...

people need to stop hogging money.

The way to keep the economy afloat is to increase consumer spending.

If people only get and get and get money, and save up gems and gems...

then no one really has money.

He's the only one with it.

Give money back to the people, and they won't be afraid to buy things, because they know they can sell stuff, and get money again fast.

It's all about rotation of the money, and rotation of products.

I wish people would stop saving so much.

Hessah 03-30-2008 10:53 PM

LOL i save... so in case one day i find something i really really Really REALLY want... i can afford it...

just like these "rich" ppl....

Yosei 03-30-2008 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booyah8876 (Post 117626)
I think that in order to stabalize the economy...

people need to stop hogging money.

The way to keep the economy afloat is to increase consumer spending.

If people only get and get and get money, and save up gems and gems...

then no one really has money.

He's the only one with it.

Give money back to the people, and they won't be afraid to buy things, because they know they can sell stuff, and get money again fast.

It's all about rotation of the money, and rotation of products.

I wish people would stop saving so much.

Some people just have the mentality than money=power. Sure the power, to buy whatever you want. But power.. actual power. No. There is no gain other than money that probably won't go anywhere but to get more money. All they will get in the end is bragging rights on how much money they have, and people envying the money, but at the same time, many people disliking them for it.

Triumph 03-30-2008 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booyah8876 (Post 117626)
I think that in order to stabalize the economy...

people need to stop hogging money.

The way to keep the economy afloat is to increase consumer spending.

If people only get and get and get money, and save up gems and gems...

then no one really has money.

He's the only one with it.

Give money back to the people, and they won't be afraid to buy things, because they know they can sell stuff, and get money again fast.

It's all about rotation of the money, and rotation of products.

I wish people would stop saving so much.

That failed in the aftermath of World War I.

The United States was the only country with the money, and wartorn Europe was destitute after all those years of war.

The United States proposed the Dawes Plan, in which money was "given back" to the people in terms of loans, in order to revive the shattered economy, in which the Europeans would "return" the money by buying goods.

This plan failed, however, and when the United States eventually demanded the money back, Germany, having sunk further in debt, was unable to pay the massive bill handed to them by the United States.

The Dawes Plan ended in a way you all know - the Great Depression. The money was lost in transition when people stopped buying goods.

With respect to Teva, no one will freely give money out, except for a small few. And from Teva's viewpoint, that money won't be going out any time soon. Not to mention it would most likely fail as well. Granted, it's impossible to have a scenario as the Great Depression occur - but what you'll have is a massive spike in prices, or inflation.

Hessah 03-30-2008 11:07 PM

Well... maybe we're slowly turning into BK in a way that its normal for lvl 3x to have 5g or something.... (and ONLY in that respect!! i'm not trying to compare BK with anything else in Fiesta coz i know its not comparable)

i think the problem is we've got certain individuals that buy all the stuff, even if they dont need it, so that others who could actually use it couldnt make use of it....

Triumph 03-30-2008 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 117640)
Well... maybe we're slowly turning into BK in a way that its normal for lvl 3x to have 5g or something.... (and ONLY in that respect!! i'm not trying to compare BK with anything else in Fiesta coz i know its not comparable)

i think the problem is we've got certain individuals that buy all the stuff, even if they dont need it, so that others who could actually use it couldnt make use of it....

We call that greed.

Ah well. Don't sell your helmet for anything less than 5g.

/random

Yosei 03-30-2008 11:09 PM

Greens in BK were cheap. the CS stuff was the expensive stuff.

Ralath 03-30-2008 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yosei (Post 117642)
Greens in BK were cheap. the CS stuff was the expensive stuff.

Well obviously our CS stuff isn't tradeable/sellable so now, maybe this is like a side effect? People are substituting "godly" greens for CS items.

Also, about the Kyle and the mob thing, I find when that happens, it helps to get really close to Kyle and zoom in so that maybe his hand or his back shows up and then you can click it.

Hyper 03-30-2008 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yosei (Post 117642)
Greens in BK were cheap. the CS stuff was the expensive stuff.

CS clothes were 2-50g, but weapons were cheap.

You could get untouched CS weapons from levels 20-70 for like 50-100s (pocket change). +9'd ones were in the low golds.

Yosei 03-30-2008 11:34 PM

I guess people on BK are more about looking cute ^^;; The non-CS stuff was pretty cheap from what I saw.

Hyper 03-30-2008 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yosei (Post 117655)
I guess people on BK are more about looking cute ^^;; The non-CS stuff was pretty cheap from what I saw.

Yeah, it's like that in kFiesta too.

I think I remember Marvin saying that we'd be "lucky to get 10s" for a four-statted level 80 drop. XD

Yosei 03-30-2008 11:54 PM

We'd be lucky to get 1g for a 4 stats level 80 weapon o.o;;

O-mie 03-31-2008 12:12 AM

That ring is more of a "collection" item than something I'd really want to wear. X_X not worth much at all unless you get it free :3

Hessah 03-31-2008 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triumph (Post 117641)
We call that greed.

Ah well. Don't sell your helmet for anything less than 5g.

/random

too late x.x

Loveless 03-31-2008 02:36 AM

I can't count how many times I've NPC'd greens... or when I sold ones with "godly" stats for less than 20s in BK.

Right now in Epith, because only a small handful have past 50... most weapons/equipment are sold under 100s. Even the ones with 10+ of some stat. So I'm guessing this is the time to 'stock' up on a nice stated green before prices spike. I suppose this is the good thing about a new server.

Just today I found the Brave Ring of Roumen... and when you actually look at it, it has mediocre stats. On top of that I'm a Fighter so I can't use the ring... I don't need 12 INT and a measly 6 END. (Btw, first ever blue items I've found... yay me!) I'm not exactly sure on the selling price of it... I mean, if someone offers me 1g I'd happily sell it but honestly I don't think it's worth that much.

And with the Kyle thing I usually shift+z... but when I have to go to storage while in a party I can't do that so I hate those people who stand on him. D<

Triumph 03-31-2008 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 117745)
too late x.x

................

Who did you sell to.

Hyper 03-31-2008 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triumph (Post 117776)
................

Who did you sell to.

I bet 500s that it was joecracker or Tazed.

Vee dot vee.

Triumph 03-31-2008 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperswoss (Post 117816)
I bet 500s that it was joecracker or Tazed.

Vee dot vee.

I accept.

Now pay up.

Hessah 03-31-2008 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperswoss (Post 117816)
I bet 500s that it was joecracker or Tazed.

Vee dot vee.

u didnt hv to tell the whole world!

Hyper 03-31-2008 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 117837)
u didnt hv to tell the whole world!

I won the bet? xD 500s naow Triumqh!

Ralath 03-31-2008 06:58 AM

:O

What happened to the 4.5g offer?1

Spirit 03-31-2008 06:19 PM

I have that ring..... so am I rich??? :D Do I deserve it? :) Yepyep, because Loki picked it up as a drop and gave it to me, free. :cool: She loves me.
I wear it. Prolly will until I get a better one, then give it to Loki or Patches to wear. Hmmm..... maybe I should sell it - what for? more money? Nothing I need to buy at the moment and I have enough money. What is the point in all the money? Haven't figured that out yet. I actually have a decent amount of money, but I am also not hoarding it, I just have nuffin to spend it on except mats, which I turn into scrolls, which turns into more money. Never understood the whole concept of being the richest person in the game. It means nothing. Your attitude, friends, and how you play the game is what matters to me. I have given several of my guildies money and never thought a thing about it. What else am I gonna do with it? Kinda like real life, what is the ponit in being the richest person in the world, when you leave this world, you will not take it with you. Have fun with it while you are alive and help those around you.

And LMAO at the Shift-Z thing for Kyle, I too never thought about that, but I have learned that if you span to see the tops of people heads, his head sticks above everyone else's and I can easily click him, even when someone is "in" him.

Enraya 04-01-2008 08:16 AM

LOL @ Spirit
Yeah, Kyle just happens to be much taller and has a bigger head than all the other players, LOL.

booyah8876 04-01-2008 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 117837)
u didnt hv to tell the whole world!

So this is what's going to happen.

whoever you sold it to already has too much money, then they're going to +9 it, then sell it out there... if it's Tazer... he's going to sell it for like 10g. I don't think I've ever seen joecracker sell anything.

All in the name of having more money.

I told the guy that was shouting back and forth with me that I play the game simply to play a game, and I'm online to hopefully hit the cap, and stay with friends.

If Seva would give out some of that 15 gems he has, even 1g to a person, that's 1500 people that would have 1g. Then people would spend more.

I'm sorry if I'm some kind of freak, but I don't understand playing a game to own so much, and to spend so much irl money on this. He said when we were in PvP that he bought 12 pages of Red Eyes, and Miles each because the Spring Break sale. That's 24 pages of prem items... I mean... if you have the real money to do that, then it's fine. People that use CS like it's water and then think that they're all powerful against the people that don't use CS but for recreational purposes (me- Raccoon, House, BoT) kill me.

I went into PvP 2 a while ago... and I've not told this story... but yeah...

_____ came in, using obvious Extenders, T3: DEF, M.DEF, VIT, AIM, and Speed T1. that with all the cleric buffs. So then he starts to kill pretty much everyone that is on the screen. We all ended up trying to gang up on him, and he failed pretty hard. He laughed at another fighter that was with us, calling him "Weak" when the fighter had a CG axe +9. When we finally killed _____, he left the PvP zone to come back, fully scrolled again, and back to killing everyone on screen.

My problem is not that he's using Prem items... by all means use them. If you want to consider yourself something "more" than other people, then do me a favour... go kill the other people that are using the same stuff you're using. Because you choose to spend real money on the game will give you an extreme boost, and you're OBVIOUSLY going to kill someone that's weaker than you. If you really want to compare, go fight someone using extenders, STR & DEF charms, then see how "strong" you really are. When entering the PvP zones, and killing the people that aren't using anything because they can't scroll up in there, or only have the cleric buffs they have naturally... you're going to be stronger... DUH. So stfu, yeah?

/rant.

I've never ranted before... and now that I've started... it seems easier to say what I want to say... so if you don't wanna hear it... lemme know.

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