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Envy 08-01-2007 10:12 PM

First Player Banned
 
That would be me.

Give me a round of applause.

Bao 08-01-2007 10:15 PM

Congratz on being the first to do something stupid!

FlyingSnow 08-01-2007 10:20 PM

boarsboars boars boars

rokaraged 08-01-2007 10:25 PM

You do KNOW that outspark wants people to try to hack the game so they can patch those holes before Open Beta...

Seriously though...what the HELL did you do to get urself banned?

Envy 08-01-2007 10:34 PM

I found out how to disconnect people on accident (which means it disconnected people, and I didn't know I was doing it, so it kept happening, and when I realized it was me I said I was sorry), and then some guy started harassing me and telling people to report me, so I started disconnecting him a bunch.

I logged off for a while, and when I logged back on I was in the Restricted Area; I logged in on a different character, was talking to Pr0nWaffle, and got teleported there after he bought a bow from me, and then I was disconnected and banned.

Sai 08-01-2007 10:41 PM

Please, feel free to share.

fullback 08-01-2007 10:41 PM

When I saw that picture of yours in restricted zone my first thought was that a GM warped you there and you did something wrong.

Rightclaw 08-01-2007 10:44 PM

Make a new account? Or is it IP banned? o.O

Larr 08-01-2007 10:45 PM

bummer man

Envy 08-01-2007 10:55 PM

I can't make a new account. It's closed beta. -.-

My friend had an account he wasn't using and let me play on it.

rokaraged 08-01-2007 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Envy (Post 9867)
I found out how to disconnect people on accident (which means it disconnected people, and I didn't know I was doing it, so it kept happening, and when I realized it was me I said I was sorry), and then some guy started harassing me and telling people to report me, so I started disconnecting him a bunch.


Ya...abusing the thing to stop a harasser really didn't help your case -_-;

Skeith 08-01-2007 10:59 PM

So thats were you go if you got banned! i saw some of my guild mates in the restricted Area i wonder what did they do!

Envy 08-01-2007 11:00 PM

I don't see how that could get me banned though. I disconnected him so he would stop slandering my name all over the place. Then, finally, a few people stood up for me and he stopped. He was using the shout box to tell everyone to report me.

rokaraged 08-01-2007 11:01 PM

well collision is "suspiciously" too powerful >.>;

But seriously i've been hearing people getting put into restricted areas/jail for events and whatever...

Unless someone is doing something as destructive as mass disconnections i doubt the Gms will ban that much if at all...

@Envy
If you were really repentant about the issue you would have stopped immediately and reported the Bug to the GMs.. Sure he was an asshole but thats really no reason to do you did. You claimed that all the other occasions you disconnected people were accidental...But this time it was intentional

Its like accidently killing someone then murdering the opposing prosecutor in court.

(bad analogy ><)

Pornwaffle 08-01-2007 11:03 PM

yeah but that guy was harrassing him as well =\ i went there and calmed them down in roumen...

FlyingSnow 08-01-2007 11:06 PM

boarsboars boars boars

Skeith 08-01-2007 11:06 PM

Yea! Collision is the Rebirth of Harlequin after our Guild master Disband it!
well we have almost 15 Lv40+ and including me =D

And tequila is back! Collision Rulez =D

rokaraged 08-01-2007 11:07 PM

Collision has only gotten stronger after leaving harlequin

Wasn't there some kind of argument between most of the players with Deliiah that forced the break?... The most active guild in Fiesta just doesn't decide to disband at their height of power...

Anyway lets keep with the subject...

Envy 08-01-2007 11:08 PM

Yeah and I send a PM to Guntrix about him harassing me, and told him I would explain the bug. He has yet to read the PM, and I've been banned without an explanation, yet the guy that harassed hasn't been punished in any way.

If you ask me, I think the GMs are abusing their powers.

This was towards the end of all of it, and you can ask Porn, he was saying it a lot more frequently before this, and he even admitted he was doing it just to "annoy" me.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9...sment01tt6.jpg
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/3...sment02xu8.jpg

For the record, I only disconnected him twice on purpose. Before I figured out I was the one doing it, I think I disconnected a bunch of people 4 or 5 times.

rokaraged 08-01-2007 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Envy (Post 9885)

If you ask me, I think the GMs are abusing their powers.

I kinda agree with this to an extent but it is closed beta its all going to be wiped.. but i don't see an abuse of power in this situation

Anyway just TRY to look at it from the perspective of the GM during the situation before you force me to defend them ....

Bao 08-01-2007 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Envy (Post 9885)
Yeah and I send a PM to Guntrix about him harassing me, and told him I would explain the bug. He has yet to read the PM, and I've been banned without an explanation, yet the guy that harassed hasn't been punished in any way.

If you ask me, I think the GMs are abusing their powers.

This was towards the end of all of it, and you can ask Porn, he was saying it a lot more frequently before this, and he even admitted he was doing it just to "annoy" me.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9...sment01tt6.jpg
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/3...sment02xu8.jpg

For the record, I only disconnected him twice on purpose. Before I figured out I was the one doing it, I think I disconnected a bunch of people 4 or 5 times.

I understand, but there are 3 things you did wrong in this situation.

1) You accidentally exploited the bug (Even though it was accidentally, this was what started all this, am I correct?)
2) You kept DC'ing people on accident (Now this is the part where it got more universal, people started knowing you did it correct?)
3) You abused it by DC'ing someone that harassed you instead of using the report function on HIM instead of him using it on you. :P

Putting myself in the shoes of a GM, if 10 people were to send in reports about you DC'ing people, and were to know that you abused the bug, I'd ban you too. You'll just have to come up with a very good explanation to get yourself unbanned.

Hopefully it'll be before CB, but since you can play on someone else's account, you didn't get IP banned I bet. That means once Open Beta comes out, you'll be able to play.

My 2 cents. =]

FlyingSnow 08-01-2007 11:35 PM

lol say that Funtrix made you xD!

+Tequila+ 08-01-2007 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rokaraged (Post 9878)
well collision is http://www.fiestafan.com/forums/show...p?t=686&page=2

But seriously i've been hearing people getting put into restricted areas/jail for events and whatever...

Unless someone is doing something as destructive as mass disconnections i doubt the Gms will ban that much if at all...

@Envy
If you were really repentant about the issue you would have stopped immediately and reported the Bug to the GMs.. Sure he was an asshole but thats really no reason to do you did. You claimed that all the other occasions you disconnected people were accidental...But this time it was intentional

Its like accidently killing someone then murdering the opposing prosecutor in court.

(bad analogy ><)

lol Roka how is Collision suspiciously powerful? You do know that we were HQ...till the BS happened with Delilah. We all lvled legitimately so I'm not really sure what you are tryna say about us. None of us did anything wrong to get where we are so you shouldnt imply that:confused:. We are still the core people from HQ along with some new faces. We may be strong because of our lvl 30+ policy but thats about all you can say about us.

fullback 08-01-2007 11:39 PM

What happened to Delilah?

+Tequila+ 08-01-2007 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fullback1719 (Post 9894)
What happened to Delilah?

Delilah=Harlot...an he was on a ego trip apparently not lettin guide members that contributed to the guild have any say in people that got kicked...but this is only what im told since i was gone. :p So im not quite sure.

tehfusion 08-01-2007 11:45 PM

1. You crashed my girlfriend and I (along with tons of people) at least twenty times, stopping us from playing the game. Enjoy your ban, you deserve it.

2. Alraune/Verdandi is my girlfriend. Harassment? What the hell are you talking about? She was just warning people about you - you were the one harassing us all with your intentional crashing.

3. You could have stopped and apologised to everyone when you realised what you were doing. Instead, you go out and attack the kind person warning everybody. Very abusive.

4. My girlfriend did nothing wrong at all. She did nothing but simply warn fellow players about your behaviour. What's wrong with that? Why do you think you have some right to then crash her even more? And you didn't expect to get banned for that? Wow, you seem rather clueless.

5. Pr0nWaffle, you seemed alright from all I knew of you before this. You flamed my girlfriend for standing up to this exploiter. She did nothing wrong - it'd be good if you actually looked at both sides before taking action.

6. All the players you crashed, especially my girlfriend who you attacked and flamed along with Pr0nWaffle, deserve an apology from you.

-F

Larr 08-02-2007 12:01 AM

*Plays the opening theme to Days Of Our Lives on the worlds smallest key-tar*


I've seen players banned for far far less then this. :D

4swordlink 08-02-2007 12:03 AM

Well it is CB people are still getting disconnected all over the place.

1) Stop Flaming for Gods Sake it is a game.

2) Don't get so worked up about it. They do server mantaince like 5 times a day anyway.

3) Lol actually Ilovcountry was the first person ever banned. That was before CB1

4)soory for flaming

rokaraged 08-02-2007 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by +Tequila+ (Post 9893)
lol Roka how is Collision suspiciously powerful? You do know that we were HQ...till the BS happened with Delilah. We all lvled legitimately so I'm not really sure what you are tryna say about us. None of us did anything wrong to get where we are so you shouldnt imply that:confused:. We are still the core people from HQ along with some new faces. We may be strong because of our lvl 30+ policy but thats about all you can say about us.

Relax teq i guess my humour is a bit too subtle or too poorly excuted.. (Kuhn did say alot of his guildies were in jail)
Calm down and lets try not to digrest on this subject anymore before it becomes a flamewar

Pornwaffle 08-02-2007 12:41 AM

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2. Alraune/Verdandi is my girlfriend. Harassment? What the hell are you talking about? She was just warning people about you - you were the one harassing us all with your intentional crashing.
ROFL RIGHT

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3. You could have stopped and apologised to everyone when you realised what you were doing. Instead, you go out and attack the kind person warning everybody. Very abusive.
he did
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5. Pr0nWaffle, you seemed alright from all I knew of you before this. You flamed my girlfriend for standing up to this exploiter. She did nothing wrong - it'd be good if you actually looked at both sides before taking action
i've never flamed anyone but sushifly and i asked for both sides from verdandi and Envy kthx stfu :D

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6. All the players you crashed, especially my girlfriend who you attacked and flamed along with Pr0nWaffle, deserve an apology from you
not apologizing to anyone, i went to roumen and stopped the flame wars by asking for both sides of their stories... after i heard them both they both shuted up and then i continued on helping new players with donating silvers or answering their questions

SO PLEASE
DO NOT MAKE UP FUCKING BULLSHIT?

Your move.

Rightclaw 08-02-2007 01:02 AM

Let's not turn this into a flame thread.

Anymore flames = infract.

Merryweather 08-02-2007 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornwaffle (Post 9910)
ROFL RIGHT


he did

i've never flamed anyone but sushifly and i asked for both sides from verdandi and Envy kthx stfu :D


not apologizing to anyone, i went to roumen and stopped the flame wars by asking for both sides of their stories... after i heard them both they both shuted up and then i continued on helping new players with donating silvers or answering their questions

SO PLEASE
DO NOT MAKE UP FUCKING BULLSHIT?

Your move.

Someone tries to reason with you and you reply with swear words, netspeak and all caps? Smooth. Way to add to your credibility, just like mentioning you donate and answer questions, which has NOTHING to do with the subject.
Do tell, why did you mention that? Because if you don't give a good reason why it's relevant now, we'll just think you were trying to brag about how much of a newbie helping saint you are.
I really don't feel like discussing anything with you though, after a tantrum like that, so don't bother throwing another. Like I said before, it has nothing to do with you, and the banned guy does not need an advocate.

edit: sup Rightclaw c:

tehfusion 08-02-2007 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornwaffle (Post 9910)
ROFL RIGHT

Er... Want to actually give a constructive reply? Alry only shouted that this person was crashing people. And that was indeed the truth, as the original poster admitted. So I don't see what you're trying to argue about here.

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Originally Posted by Pornwaffle (Post 9910)
he did

Yes, he did. Exactly what I said. He apologised, and then (as he stated himself in this thread), he attacked Alry with his crashing exploit. Again, what are you trying to argue here? Are you telling me he was right to crash her further because she was trying to warn people?

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Originally Posted by Pornwaffle (Post 9910)
i've never flamed anyone but sushifly and i asked for both sides from verdandi and Envy kthx stfu :D

I'm losing respect for you every second here. You're rather rude and ignorant with your 'kthx stfu' attitude. The facts are here, I don't see what you're even trying to argue.
He discovered an exploit, accidentally crashed people. He apologised - which was good of him. But then he saw my girlfriend's kind warnings as harassment. I'm sure any unbiased individual will be able to see, it was not harassment - more likely, he was just scared about his reputation being ruined. Again, Envy stated this himself - "so he would stop slandering me all over the place".
Instead of just apologising and saying he'd stop, leaving it at that - he decided to attack her and exploit/abuse it further. You're telling me that was right?

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Originally Posted by Pornwaffle (Post 9910)
not apologizing to anyone, i went to roumen and stopped the flame wars by asking for both sides of their stories... after i heard them both they both shuted up and then i continued on helping new players with donating silvers or answering their questions

Good.

+Tequila+ 08-02-2007 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rokaraged (Post 9904)
Relax teq i guess my humour is a bit too subtle or too poorly excuted.. (Kuhn did say alot of his guildies were in jail)
Calm down and lets try not to digrest on this subject anymore before it becomes a flamewar

Oh I correct myself...but my comments were'nt meant to be flames. I was just tryna see where that was coming from. I mean HQ is done we are Collision now. New name new guildies new start for me I'm not tryna make anymore enemies then I have to. :D Sorry about that

Pornwaffle 08-02-2007 01:34 AM

Someone tries to reason with you and you reply with swear words, netspeak and all caps? Smooth. Way to add to your credibility, just like mentioning you donate and answer questions, which has NOTHING to do with the subject.
Do tell, why did you mention that? Because if you don't give a good reason why it's relevant now, we'll just think you were trying to brag about how much of a newbie helping saint you are.
I really don't feel like discussing anything with you though, after a tantrum like that, so don't bother throwing another. Like I said before, it has nothing to do with you, and the banned guy does not need an advocate.

irrelevant? were going over what happend that day... and i'm not calling myself a saint i'm stating what happend that day... went to roumen people were flaming i got both sides of the stories people calmed down me and genkaku were helping out new players etc... the flaming died i'd like to speak to Verdadi about what she's/he's saying

Yes, he did. Exactly what I said. He apologised, and then (as he stated himself in this thread), he attacked Alry with his crashing exploit. Again, what are you trying to argue here? Are you telling me he was right to crash her further because she was trying to warn people?
he did apoligize is what i was arguing i didn't mention anything else don't put words in my mouth <3
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I'm losing respect for you every second here. You're rather rude and ignorant with your 'kthx stfu' attitude. The facts are here, I don't see what you're even trying to argue.
He discovered an exploit, accidentally crashed people. He apologised - which was good of him. But then he saw my girlfriend's kind warnings as harassment. I'm sure any unbiased individual will be able to see, it was not harassment - more likely, he was just scared about his reputation being ruined. Again, Envy stated this himself - "so he would stop slandering me all over the place".
Instead of just apologising and saying he'd stop, leaving it at that - he decided to attack her and exploit/abuse it further. You're telling me that was right
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You're rather rude and ignorant with your 'kthx stfu' attitude
how am i being ignorant with it? i don't know either of them... i met them both at the same time they were both flaming each other and i wanted it to end, your defending your gf if anything is biased it's your side of this tory
how is it biased? i never met envy till i went to roumen and verdandi or w\e his/her name is were flaming each other... the only thing i'm telling you is what i wrote... your putting words in my mouth
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Good.
yes yes it is *orgasm*

abusing of a glitch did happen, harrasment on both sides did happen... however you decide to pretty it up with your words is up to you, i told you what happend i know neither of em none of this is biased i got both stories i have witnesses... :D
Your Move. *don't put words in my mouth =\*
*edit* i just re-read the kthx stfu part that was pretty rude of me sorry

Merryweather 08-02-2007 01:40 AM

Pr0n, I'm leaving. I'm terribly sorry but I can't figure out what the hell are you trying to say. Either you need grammar, formatting, paragraphs, or just try having a point for a change. By the way,

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Your move.
I just imagine a fat guy with a neckbeard and a sweaty shirt pointing at the screen as he hits 'submit post' like "YOUR MOVE!!". Good day sir.

tehfusion 08-02-2007 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornwaffle (Post 9916)
he did apoligize is what i was arguing i didn't mention anything else don't put words in my mouth <3

Read again what you attempted to quote. I wasn't putting words in your mouth, just clearly stating the sequence of events and then asking if you agree with how he acted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwaffle (Post 9916)
how am i being ignorant with it? i don't know either of them... i met them both at the same time they were both flaming each other and i wanted it to end

I assumed you were his friend, I apologise for that then.

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Originally Posted by Pornwaffle (Post 9916)
yes yes it is *orgasm*

Did you mess up your quotes by typing with one hand?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwaffle (Post 9916)
abusing of a glitch did happen, harrasment on both sides did happen...

False.

Envy: Intentionally crashed people. Is this harassment? Obviously.
Alry: Shouted that Envy was the one crashing people. She did not act offensively in these shouts (as shown in the screenshot posted by Envy) - simply stated the facts, with no flaming. Is this harassment? No.

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Originally Posted by Pornwaffle (Post 9916)
i told you what happend i know neither of em none of this is biased i got both stories i have witnesses... :D

If you were just trying to stop a flame war, that's good. But as far as I'm aware, Envy was being incredibly offensive, threatening her that he'll find her and crash her all day unless she stops. That's extreme harassment - and you responded to that, telling him to find her and encouraging him a lot. That's supporting his harassment. What do you say to that?

-F

Pornwaffle 08-02-2007 02:13 AM

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I just imagine a fat guy with a neckbeard and a sweaty shirt pointing at the screen as he hits 'submit post' like "YOUR MOVE!!". Good day sir.
i know XD but lets not be offensive silly

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Pr0n, I'm leaving. I'm terribly sorry but I can't figure out what the hell are you trying to say. Either you need grammar, formatting, paragraphs, or just try having a point for a change. By the way,
i have a point but my sentences hardly make sense :\ BUT... donno what my original point was in all honesty :rolleyes: still some of the story is true some isn't =\ just trying to get that across don't believe one side of the story fully

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Read again what you attempted to quote. I wasn't putting words in your mouth, just clearly stating the sequence of events and then asking if you agree with how he acted.
nah, but both sides could of acted diferently i guess people just started getting offended


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Envy: Intentionally crashed people. Is this harassment? Obviously.
yes that did happen
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Alry: Shouted that Envy was the one crashing people. She did not act offensively in these shouts (as shown in the screenshot posted by Envy) - simply stated the facts, with no flaming. Is this harassment? No.
sorty of what happend, they were both flaming each other when i got to roumen... thats only one screenie of proof :(

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That's extreme harassment - and you responded to that, telling him to find her and encouraging him a lot. That's supporting his harassment. What do you say to that?
yeah it did get a little out hand, i started losing my cool when Ver- started saying i'm not listening to the story... and when i asked for the story she/he just responded rudely and wouldn't tell me... after a few minutes i calmed down and she was pming me her side and i was asking envy if this was true and both sides of the stories were heard

thats pretty much all there is to say at the moment o_o:eek:

Belaslav 08-02-2007 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Envy (Post 9867)
I found out how to disconnect people on accident (which means it disconnected people, and I didn't know I was doing it, so it kept happening, and when I realized it was me I said I was sorry), and then some guy started harassing me and telling people to report me, so I started disconnecting him a bunch.

I logged off for a while, and when I logged back on I was in the Restricted Area; I logged in on a different character, was talking to Pr0nWaffle, and got teleported there after he bought a bow from me, and then I was disconnected and banned.

What'd you do, edit the game code?

Sheapy 08-02-2007 02:28 AM

Stop flaming each other. If you really want to argue, do it through the PMs


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