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JC annihilates 03-12-2008 02:39 AM

so called "updates"
 
As I understand updates are supposed to make a game more fun and more refined, so why instead of fixing things like the return to "rumen" scroll do they take away the relog glitch when you die? it does make the game any more enjoyable to have to travel all the way back to where I was, and meanwhile Im still getting stuck in trees and wading through advertisers and mushrooms!

Yosei 03-12-2008 02:43 AM

Because there are more important issues than typos? =/ And the relog glitch was also an unfortunate one. It enabled bots to make their way to Uruga, and low levels wander where they weren't ready to tread.
I really don't care about the stuff that doesn't prevent me from playing properly, like typos.

Ivramire 03-12-2008 02:46 AM

Was the rumen scroll ever broken? o.O I used one ok when I last played today...


Anyway, the relog glitch is exactly that...a glitch. You're not supposed to be able to get that far if you need to use it, you're supposed to warp back, and yes, as frustrating as it is, work back to where you died.

Yosei 03-12-2008 02:53 AM

It was spelled Rumen, instead of Roumen, but to the other versions of Fiesta, I believe its "Rumen" so maybe they didn't bother changing it.

JC annihilates 03-12-2008 02:53 AM

I was just using the typo as an example, there are still things that are a lot more important like getting my character caught, freezing, logging out, and general annoyances that they seem fairly oblivious of. is there anyway to actually TELL them about this stuff? i mean they posted polls that had incorrect facts in them before!

booyah8876 03-12-2008 02:54 AM

Rumen scroll bug = typo.

It's called "Rûmen" in the other versions of Fiesta, and it's called "Roumen" here.

But yeah...

Typos have no real effect on the game...

they should be fixing all the quests, and the other bugs that people are experiencing.

Ivramire 03-12-2008 03:09 AM

I think someone said that the quest bugs were because of typos...if so then that's just sad.

JC annihilates 03-12-2008 03:14 AM

lol no no, the typos and bug quests are separate issues.

Ivramire 03-12-2008 03:18 AM

Someone a while back was "fixing" broken quests by editing game files. This person (if I remember right) said it was because of typos.

Hyper 03-12-2008 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lvramire (Post 105963)
I think someone said that the quest bugs were because of typos...if so then that's just sad.

Yep.

About 90% of them are because they typed { or } instead of [ or ].

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Originally Posted by JC annihilates (Post 105969)
lol no no, the typos and bug quests are separate issues.

No they aren't. Same thing.

O-mie 03-12-2008 03:26 AM

>_> A glitch is a glitch is a glitch is a glitch. The end!

Spirit 03-12-2008 03:29 AM

The thing is, they are fixing what they can when they can. The relog was a glitch, as convenient as it was, it still needed to be fixed. I am pretty sure that they are working on the other issues, but it could be something that they do not have a fix for yet or cannot do the fix yet. So, instead of waiting to fix the little things that they CAN fix until they also can fix the big things, they give us what they can when they can.

Ivramire 03-12-2008 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Spirit (Post 105987)
The thing is, they are fixing what they can when they can. The relog was a glitch, as convenient as it was, it still needed to be fixed. I am pretty sure that they are working on the other issues, but it could be something that they do not have a fix for yet or cannot do the fix yet. So, instead of waiting to fix the little things that they CAN fix until they also can fix the big things, they give us what they can when they can.

I'd mostly agree, if I didn't know that the quest bugs were because of someone down the line typing { instead of [ =/


Really, how long would that take to re-type that part.

Spirit 03-12-2008 03:36 AM

True, but if the typo was created by OnsOnSpot (sp?) and Outspark cannot change the updates/fixes as they are sent to them, then it could be that it is not in Outspark's control and the other company may think that there are more important issues other than that. <---- Based on speculation.

Ivramire 03-12-2008 03:40 AM

Kinda silly if Outspark had to get permission/request a patch to fix something that would probably only take 10mins to do themselves. =/

Sad.

O-mie 03-12-2008 03:44 AM

They have the ability to change typos, lmao. I mean, they changed the name of that stupid suit to dakkon's birthday suit, aka, goofing off. Kind of makes them look bad. =x

Ivramire 03-12-2008 03:46 AM

^Exactly, and I think that suit was supposed to be a surprise for Dakkon's birthday. Having a server of players wearing your afore-unattainable suit is somewhat of a whopper =X

Big boo-boo if it was. Blew the surprise by releasing it in a patch o___o

/speculation

*on an un-related note:- Yay!! My Pizza's here ^^

Hyper 03-12-2008 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by O-mie (Post 106022)
They have the ability to change typos, lmao. I mean, they changed the name of that stupid suit to dakkon's birthday suit, aka, goofing off. Kind of makes them look bad. =x

Exactly.

It's really "Circus Suit", or something, but they changed it for his B-day.

They have enough power to change typos.

Even if the didn't, one phone call for 2 minutes asking for permission + 5-8 minutes to fix EVERY quest = could be done within 10 minutes. Yes, it could be done in 10 minutes if you already knew which quests are bugged.

Hessah 03-12-2008 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lvramire (Post 106025)
^Exactly, and I think that suit was supposed to be a surprise for Dakkon's birthday. Having a server of players wearing your afore-unattainable suit is somewhat of a whopper =X

Big boo-boo if it was. Blew the surprise by releasing it in a patch o___o

/speculation

*on an un-related note:- Yay!! My Pizza's here ^^

Yeah same with BR release... there was suppose to be an event thing and they were gonna make a big deal out of it...

MAYBE they're on a contract where only OnsOnSoft (sp?) can touch the programming and patch?!

I mean.. imagine outspark did their own patch to fix a bugged quest... then OnsOnSoft write another patch for them for other stuff (event/quest, w/e) and they're not aware that Outspark written over the programme as well... patches will clash... (we dont want MORE bugs that we've got already right?!)

but with that said.. i didnt mean its OK that they left bugged quest bugged... surely by now they could've told Devs to fixed the bugged quest with the last few patches...

i just wanna say.. i dont think we can expect Outspark to right their own patch....

Ivramire 03-12-2008 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 106068)

i just wanna say.. i dont think we can expect Outspark to right their own patch....


leaving us sadly, at the point we are now :(

Hessah 03-12-2008 04:52 AM

yeah just dont expect anything and we should all be happy LOL!!!

Ralath 03-12-2008 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 106072)
yeah just dont expect anything and we should all be happy LOL!!!

Everything becomes bonus...

Blaaaaaaaah 03-12-2008 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Yosei (Post 105942)
Because there are more important issues than typos? =/ And the relog glitch was also an unfortunate one. It enabled bots to make their way to Uruga, and low levels wander where they weren't ready to tread.
I really don't care about the stuff that doesn't prevent me from playing properly, like typos.

Actually you know... the other day we trained a spam bot in Gob Camp.. it died... then it disappeared, and less than a minute later it was back on the spot again and spamming away. It looks like it just used the relog glitch or something. Pretty sure it couldn't have travelled from Elderine to Gob Camp in such a short amount of time. It was standing in the same position and facing the same way too. @-@"

Hyper 03-12-2008 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 106147)
Actually you know... the other day we trained a spam bot in Gob Camp.. it died... then it disappeared, and less than a minute later it was back on the spot again and spamming away. It looks like it just used the relog glitch or something. Pretty sure it couldn't have travelled from Elderine to Gob Camp in such a short amount of time. It was standing in the same position and facing the same way too. @-@"

Maybe they... "Trained" (no pun intended) it to use a horse? xD

Maybe the relog glitch was in the files and they didn't let it patch... ;~; Nvm...

Blaaaaaaaah 03-12-2008 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hyperswoss (Post 106152)
Maybe they... "Trained" (no pun intended) it to use a horse? xD

Maybe the relog glitch was in the files and they didn't let it patch... ;~; Nvm...

Even with a horse, and even if they horsed, it was really fast that made me go "wth". Or maybe it was because I wasn't expecting it.

Although the other day I had a bot dancing with us on his horse so.... guess you can never underestimate what a bot can do!!

Hyper 03-12-2008 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 106154)
Even with a horse, and even if they horsed, it was really fast that made me go "wth". Or maybe it was because I wasn't expecting it.

Although the other day I had a bot dancing with us on his horse so.... guess you can never underestimate what a bot can do!!

ROFLMAO. What purpose would that kind of bot serve? XD

Perfectly-timed dance shows?

Blaaaaaaaah 03-12-2008 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperswoss (Post 106158)
ROFLMAO. What purpose would that kind of bot serve? XD

Perfectly-timed dance shows?

I have no idea. It's name was sdkfjsd (or something), had newbie clothes on, and just rode by on a horse and started dancing cos we were dancing in town. Then I was like "omg a bot dancing" and it didn't say anything for a while.. and rode off. Quite epic.

But I'm not sure if it's REALLY a bot, just looked like one.

MaxOff 03-12-2008 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 106068)
Yeah same with BR release... there was suppose to be an event thing and they were gonna make a big deal out of it...

MAYBE they're on a contract where only OnsOnSoft (sp?) can touch the programming and patch?!

I mean.. imagine outspark did their own patch to fix a bugged quest... then OnsOnSoft write another patch for them for other stuff (event/quest, w/e) and they're not aware that Outspark written over the programme as well... patches will clash... (we dont want MORE bugs that we've got already right?!)

but with that said.. i didnt mean its OK that they left bugged quest bugged... surely by now they could've told Devs to fixed the bugged quest with the last few patches...

i just wanna say.. i dont think we can expect Outspark to right their own patch....

For problems like that tools like Subversion exists.


And about the very fast bots:
they learnt to teleport. After seeing them teleport, i decided to try it out myself: and it worked. It wasn't even hard.

Phibrizzo 03-12-2008 11:52 AM

Quote:

they learnt to teleport. After seeing them teleport, i decided to try it out myself: and it worked. It wasn't even hard.
wtf o_O

I knew they could walk through walls, but to the point of teleporting.. <.<;;

MaxOff 03-12-2008 01:54 PM

u can see them spawning in uruga all the time, and a 1 sec later disappearing without a trace.

Didnt u also noticed dead bots near the teleporters. The reason is simple: its possible to teleport anywhere on a map in a instant, but u cant change the map that easily. So they hop though the maps, to get to there destination.

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Originally Posted by Phibrizzo (Post 106197)
wtf o_O

I knew they could walk through walls, but to the point of teleporting.. <.<;;

teleporting is actually simpler then walking.

Phibrizzo 03-12-2008 03:34 PM

Quote:

u can see them spawning in uruga all the time, and a 1 sec later disappearing without a trace.
well, I don't stick around Uruga much so I couldn't really notice that XD

I found out the fact that bots can walk just like monsters when I was leveling my fighter in BH ><

EDIT.: Just took the time to read the whole thread lol

Quote:

Kinda silly if Outspark had to get permission/request a patch to fix something that would probably only take 10mins to do themselves. =/
the problem is not retyping, is finding where that typo is rofl. these codes are probably revised by OnsOnSoft before being sent to outspark and I guess their staff is more competent than outspark's lol.

nerdzo 03-12-2008 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 106154)
Even with a horse, and even if they horsed, it was really fast that made me go "wth". Or maybe it was because I wasn't expecting it.

Although the other day I had a bot dancing with us on his horse so.... guess you can never underestimate what a bot can do!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperswoss (Post 106158)
ROFLMAO. What purpose would that kind of bot serve? XD

Perfectly-timed dance shows?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 106160)
I have no idea. It's name was sdkfjsd (or something), had newbie clothes on, and just rode by on a horse and started dancing cos we were dancing in town. Then I was like "omg a bot dancing" and it didn't say anything for a while.. and rode off. Quite epic.

But I'm not sure if it's REALLY a bot, just looked like one.

the other day, i met this gold spammer who was like taking a day off or something. he/she shroomed and me and my friend decided to spam buff him/her xD he/she then went out of its shroom and went away o.o
then he/she came back and we gave him/her the anti-illness buff as well. and then he/she said "ty"! xD lmaoslmaos. he/she started dancing and we danced around it :D friends of ours who passed by joined in as well xD
and then, i decided to add him/her to my friend list for fun xD and he/she accepted, i was all "omg" xDD yay spammers on leave are cute! :3

Ulrike 03-12-2008 08:12 PM

I wish they'd fix and/or remove xtrap because it's STILL randomly kicking me off :/

MikeyG 03-20-2008 09:59 AM

Thank you for deleting the gold sellers post, and no paypal dude I am not your friend xD Your one of the reasons fiesta is ....

Enraya 03-20-2008 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nerdzo (Post 106259)
the other day, i met this gold spammer who was like taking a day off or something. he/she shroomed and me and my friend decided to spam buff him/her xD he/she then went out of its shroom and went away o.o
then he/she came back and we gave him/her the anti-illness buff as well. and then he/she said "ty"! xD lmaoslmaos. he/she started dancing and we danced around it :D friends of ours who passed by joined in as well xD
and then, i decided to add him/her to my friend list for fun xD and he/she accepted, i was all "omg" xDD yay spammers on leave are cute! :3

... ... ... O-O;
Intelligent spammers and bots ... what has this world come to? D:
That sounds like a rather fun spammer though, LOL.

Well, I've heard of some manned bots xD Saying 'ty' and stuff when they get buffs/heals/rez o-o;

NotMyWay 03-20-2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by paypalgame (Post 110286)
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Im supposed to be ur "dear friend" when i dont even know u and i already have a bad impression of u?

u have many dots for low price? i get them for free.....................

"this is a very good and beautiful things?" its either "these are very good and beautiful things" or "this is a very good and beautiful thing". dots are neither good nor beautiful.

we will get a bonus? who are u, our boss? i dont think so

get lost please. oh and while u are getting lost, please try and enrol in a kindergarden or primary school.


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