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Pre-established Parties
I hate this -.- I can never get a party because everyone on my friendslist or around my level already have their pre-established parties or posse's whom they party with all the time. I had one, but 1/2 of it doesn't or barely plays anymore, leaving two of us, running around looking for parties, often duoing or settling for a not-so-good party. I really want to level but its really hard at our level, and it gets even harder when we can't find a party.
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lol you hate it now, but you didnt when you had one? tisk tisk heheh
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Well I never had a hard time finding a party, cuz I had you guys. Now I don't, so I have to keep asking around for a party. But I get replies like they already have mages, they promised blabla they'd party them, they're full, etc. And I refuse to shout for parties now because all I get is nubs wanting powerlevels.
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That is exactly how I feel.
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And I feel stupid asking if I can party with them too because I feel like I'm messing up their pattern or something.
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I know how you feel... I can't even get a party within my guild cause one, the people who are around my level are always duoing. And secondly, I'm one of the highest in there so I can't exactly party with people in their 30s to gain much. Shouting for parties is futile as well cause being an Archer I don't get invites from people higher than 40. Any tank below 50 can't keep aggro off me either... D:
That is why I have moved on to Epith for the time being. >P |
I just want to get to 67 atleast -.- And I got 44% to go.
Maybe then the party invites will come flying in. [sarcasm] Cuz I got inferno and with inferno I'm finally useful[/sarcasm] |
You shouldn't be so picky who you party with if you can't find regulars. When I first started playing I mean, I was alwaysl ike >[ I wanna solo NAR parties are lame! But that's how I GOT a regular party, aka blaaaahs, dyna and wacky. I don't think you should be like "I'm too good to shout for a party" >_> else you won't get one~
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Thing is, in a party with people you know at least, you'll know what you're getting into. Since a certain someone*cough* doesn't play anymore, we're pretty much clutching at straws. The last few partys I've been in that I got in through shout have been absolutely horrible. Having to be tank, main healer, and DD because you're the highest lvl there. Losing 7% in an hour isn't pretty =/
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Well!! -pokes Lilian's level in the guild list- She be reaching your level soon! Yes, I am volunteering her, LMAO. She and Omie will probably be able to party with you guys soon. <-- wants to offer parties too but level gap is too big! One day, just one day, we will be the same level..... -dreams- |
Duo?
And yes, people consider mages "useless" until they get Inferno. It's pathetic, just like the way people want lower level clerics for more experience. |
i get partied all the time with my level 5x fighter, but if any1 hears this,i never liked parties ._.
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hmmm.. i love duoing... i find that we get more exp and drops coz there's only two of us... i've done AOE parties only a few times but i dont really feel any great exp difference.. (could have more difference at ur level but i dunno :p) but sometimes i think... you may not achieve the best result just coz the party is full =D |
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su sry but lil is mine D=< And yeah, like hessah said - duoing > aoe parties by faaaaaaar. |
We're waiting for me to get inferno @.@ Then we're going to try out the duoing thing, but atm, aoeing in the battleground beats duoing.
We don't want to enrage the Omie lol. |
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I rarely find parties. Why? Well nobody needs a "FULL-INT" axe fighter in their parties. I burn SP stones too quickly. Nobody wishes to wait for me to restone having to travel all the way from the Forest of Slumber. Furthermore, it seems more, and more evident that everyone wants to dream-team.
Since the Mage:Tank population is relatively the same, I end up being one of the fighters who doesn't party much. Though, it cant be all bad as I see it. I solo, its mundane. Though, I've saved up quite a considerable amount of gold thanks to it. Just recently I've slapped a Lizard Knight License onto my axe in the hopes of completing it while I solo lizard knights to level myself. |
I'd solo, but its really slow and costly.
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i guess a mage solo is a much more dangerous task than a fighter solo...
if Angellic finds it hard to party coz everyone's looking for 3 mages in a party... why is Yosei, being a mage, find it hard to find a party =/ |
There's a lot of mages. And my build isn't the "best". I'm not full INT, and I don't have inferno. I know, we're more desirable than archers, but at my level, I'm comparible to a 67 mage who has inferno.
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then... shouldnt u duo until level 67.. and AOE after that??
instead of trying to AOE now and duo after? (well i guess ideally u'll want to AOE at all levels :D but u said u'll try duo after u get inferno... just trying to understand how mage works... =/) |
Why not just duo with lvra?
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Time for a look into the 60+ part of the community. It changes a lot after level 60. 1% equals about 40k minimum. Of course it increases as we level.
At our level, the only somewhat decent exp is Navars in CP1, Shlyphs, and Stonies in FoS, and the battleground. And it has to be aoe for it to be decent. Thats also places where 40s-70s go, thats a ALOT of competition, decreasing the ability to aoe. We recently discovered aoeing in the battleground is really good exp compared to what we can normally get while competing for kills in FoS. For duoing, theres AEW stuff, which is always taken up too, select spots in CP1, and battleground. But like I said, duoing is slow unless you aoe duo(what lvra and I plan on doing). I need Inferno before aoe duoing will be decent. It seems like everyone has a mage alt these days. Mages are definitely becoming more populous lately, so that increases my competition. At first, mages are archers were equal in demand. Once the level cap raised, more mages got nova, annihilating archers and increasing the demand for mages. Now.. mages are leveling even more and a good chunk of the 60+ mages have Inferno. Buuuut I don't. Why would they wanna party a mage without Inferno when they could party a mage with Inferno? Its like a miniature version of Archers vs. Mages, except its within the mage class and its novas vs. infernos. Also.. at my level everyone has chosen their posses, gotten their friends and groups figured out. I had mine, but mine unfortunately has split. So.. yeah, I gotta hunt for parties now. The things we duo on usually give us between 500 and 1,000 in exp. 1% I guess is 60k, so yeah o.o |
ohhh ok... i guess the problem is there isnt a higher level map for u lvl 60+ hence u have to AOE to get decent exp...
they really need two new maps!! if lvl 5x trains at AEW, FoS,then there needs to be another map for 6x and another one for 7x... |
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Ancient Elvin Woods is supposed to be for 6x levels. Forest of Slumber is supposed to be for 7x levels. They dont have the greatest experience rates, but nevertheless they were designed for those level ranges in mind. Now if 5x's come in its not nearly that bad. They just squish all of us a bit. Though the 5x's can hold their own. When the 4x's come into play it just gets rediculous. It takes a whole party of them to handle something as basic as a trumpy or greenky. Its not as if they can effectively AOE any monsters in AEW or FoS. They even take more than they can chew. As of now, AEW, and FoS, are packed with the 40-79 level range. When these maps were initally designed for a 6x, 7x level range in mind. I'm not saying that 4x's cant be there, simply that they werent intended to be there in the first place. |
yeah tell me about it... some level 3x was farming in AEW... he died and asked for REV!!!!
i'm usually a nice cleric but i cant help but say "i dont think u belong here" and ignored him... he got revived by someone else in the end... which i dont care and hv no control of anyway... but OMG! we really dont want 80% of the population in 2 maps... Quote:
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well just like the 1 exp for mobs 30 levels above u.. they should lock it so u cant get into a map thats 30 levels above u too~
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Locking the maps 3x+ you is the best idea really.
People want to be like the 5x and 6x that they see running around in like SoG, and other noob places... so they think that if they get an Uruga scroll, and warp there, they're going to find someone to plvl them. I hate that... minus the stupid 3x and 4x in AEW and FoS, and you have the perfect land where we can all grind, and not have to "claim" grind spots for AoE if we choose to do so. Having a team of 5 people all 3x and 4x to kill a single red trumpy is quite stupid, and pointless... if they would take that same party, and move it to like CP or SEG, they would kill faster, and the exp/hour would be so much better... I hate nubs in high lvl areas. And I'm open about it. |
I have noticed a massive influx of early 6x mages. X_X
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This is not the solution to the problem but...
Have you guys tried Elf Knight Demons in CP2? My guildie and his healbot (he has a laptop that runs Fiesta and whenever he needs a heal, he'll just use his laptop to heal his tank) use the XP boost and always go to Elf Knight Demons and they say that's pretty good XP. But they are a fighter-cleric combo and he has all +9s so I'm not sure how effective that would be for mage. I do know the stuff in the battleground hits him for like... 30s... and he does like 20 at a time by himself.... |
As for parties ... I like to only party with people that I know. I think it was shadow_shot that started his thread of archer help in the outspark forums? Can't remember @__@ I asked him if I should accept pick up parties or not, and he said yes. I told him that I normally only solo/party with friends/guildies, and he said that if you party more, people that were once just "pick up groups" have now become "friends." And I reasoned that he was right. However, I don't want to party. At times, I have to irregularly log off without warning. I'm an archer, so that's not bad, but what if I was the tank? The cleric? Ouch >3< I would rather solo than let someone else down. And there are also a group of friends that always solo. I don't understand why you worry about it Yosei. They are a group of friends - they party, because they're friends. They probably understand each other more than other people do, and when one of them makes a mistake it's easy to trust why they did it and forgive them. With pick up groups, it's harder to trust and harder to understand their grinding patterns and habits. There's a reason why they have formed their own "posse." If someone accepts me into a party, alright =) Thank you, and I'll try my best to DD/tank! But if no one offers, alright then, I'll go back to soloing. I don't have a permanent party right now, not even someone to duo with. I know that soloing is impractical at your level, duo's aren't bad. And I guess you'll just have to be lucky and shout for a party or meet up with another lonely person, then you'll have a group back again. So I don't blame people for having a group they constantly grind with. Are you going to hate them because they have friends? As for Inferno: Wow @__@ Mages were always pretty impressive in my eyes, it's amazing now that they can be called useless when they don't have one skill. I guess just keep pounding away at it /shrug. There HAS to be someone that will party even if you don't have inferno xD |
I would just like to point out my opinion that aoeing is grossly overpopular to what it achieves. There are people who go online and they simply "cannot" gain exp to level unless they get an aoe party. These people have become shortsighted.
After that patch where they re-closed burning rock, I was at lv54. In 5 days I grinded to 60. (reached that yesterday and taking a break now.) How? Duo and solo. Meaning I play with (mostly) Omie and take between 1-5 mobs at a time. (5 is not really intentional :P) And no, we did not grind 24/7, have had plenty of time to do all the needed stuff irl while doing this. Granted, it WAS tiring, hence why I'm taking a break now but still, makes you think dunnit. :3 |
I'm not blaming people who have posse's, this isn't a "grawr I hate people who have friends and won't party me". Its not their fault, its not their job to party me. But I just dislike how it makes it even harder to find parties. I used to get spammed with whispers from people on my friendslist wanting a mage, not anymore.
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Stop asking for parties nub. D: That's such the stupidest thing ever. Clerics have the same thing... but ours happens a lot sooner. We're not useful until we hit 47. Once we hit 47, we're only good for our buffs. =/ |
Then lower-lvled clerics are partied because people want more xp. There's too many clerics and mages anyway =/
Actually it's slightly worse. The ability that people want are mage's inferno and cleric's endure, but Endure is such that you don't have to be in the party to have it. Just ask an Endure from a higher-lvled Cleric, ask an endure for your heal-monkey and go on your merry way = / |
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Though I don't gain exp as fast as AOE parties may... at least I can get more drops leveling on things that are actually MY level. That's the important thing for me. It's efficient in a different way and I'm in no rush to get to the level cap unlike some people. Guilds like Genocide in Apo are all about grinding from what I've heard. |
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* Jewel Keepers room in CP1, plus the hall (primary large group and a secondary small group) * Red Stonie room at CP1, C4, plus the hall (medium sized group and a minor group) * Stonies/Naiads at the gate between CP 1 and CP 2 (3 medium-large groups, with some gold bat elites) * Ratman Elite Knight room at CP 1, plus the hall (primary large group, secondary small group) Higher on... *Orc Captain room plus hall at CP2 (Group of 8 and group of 5) *Lizard Knight spot at FoS (Group of 10 and a group of 3 and 2 jokers, can be extended to a group of 7 and 2 jokers if wanted) |
well its worst for us archers.... D:
at least mages are gonna be usefull (*quotes Yos*) when they reach 67. thats why its so frustrating for us archers...even archers cant AOE party in the battlegrounds because of that poison mist bug. maybe thats why theres a very few number of high level archers in the game now because of this situation.. (so tired right now. il edit this later! lol) |
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@.@ Something funny happened today.
I got more congrats on 67/Inferno than I did when I get 60 <.< |
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