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WizardsRequiem 02-21-2008 12:06 AM

Question about a Cleric build.
 
There are two different types of Cleric builds, right? I know of the "Battle Cleric" build which is 2:1, STR/END, correct? But what is a build for a "Support Cleric"?

Hessah 02-21-2008 12:13 AM

I believe the other build is 25 SPR, rest END...

WizardsRequiem 02-21-2008 12:15 AM

Really? I figured it would be something along the lines of 2:1, END/SPR.

Loveless 02-21-2008 12:17 AM

^ I think that's more the support build... whatever ratio you like but that sounds good.

Hessah 02-21-2008 12:18 AM

i guess u can do that too if u feel like ur cleric need more defence and HP... at earlier stages... or even 1:1 END:SPR until SPR gets to 25...

25 SPR rest END is the end result of the build...

WizardsRequiem 02-21-2008 12:23 AM

Its just that the last time I was a Cleric I noticed I used up a ton of SP every time I cast a spell so I figured raising SPR beyond 25 would help with that a bit but I highly doubt it. So 25 SPR then the rest END?

Blaaaaaaaah 02-21-2008 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WizardsRequiem (Post 94208)
Its just that the last time I was a Cleric I noticed I used up a ton of SP every time I cast a spell so I figured raising SPR beyond 25 would help with that a bit but I highly doubt it. So 25 SPR then the rest END?

That's the build I'm using and I'm a support cleric. You also would wanna take into account the type of skills you empower, e.g. sp consumption and stuff to help you out with your SP. Capping SPR at 25 is fine for me. True, we use a lot of SP, but by the time I need to go back to restock, usually another party member will need to do the same, so I think that's about right.

Ivramire 02-21-2008 12:29 AM

64 cleric with a 25 SPR, 50 END 4 DEX build.


Broke the 3k SP mark with a few SPR equips if you want a very rough estimation
of how much SP you'll get with this build.


"Pure" support builds are actually full-end, as you'll do too little damage to solo without +9s and be able to take aggro when spam-healing.

WizardsRequiem 02-21-2008 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 94210)
That's the build I'm using and I'm a support cleric. You also would wanna take into account the type of skills you empower, e.g. sp consumption and stuff to help you out with your SP. Capping SPR at 25 is fine for me. True, we use a lot of SP, but by the time I need to go back to restock, usually another party member will need to do the same, so I think that's about right.

Alright, then 25 SPR and the rest END it is! I tried the "Battle Cleric" build but adding 2:1, STR/END, really didn't affect the damage I was doing by much. I pretty much just wasted all those points in STR. Thanks for all the help guys.

Hessah 02-21-2008 12:32 AM

after playing a fighter... u'll know how much SP us clerics actually have and how much MORE Sp stones we can carry! so i didnt think going beyond 25 SP was necessary (maybe u thought clerics suck SP up rather quickly coz u're used to playing a mage with a much bigger SP pool)

you should decrease ur SP consumption in Heal... bash is the other skill i'd consider decreasing SP consumption, but if u're gonna be a support cleric u probably wont be using it all that often... just just food for thought...

Ivramire 02-21-2008 12:38 AM

Oddly enough, I beat a lot of higher-lvl clerics and even some mages when comparing who has more SP .__.


Imo, full-anything is kinda silly, unless you're a pure-tank or a full-DPS mage.
Once you break the cap limit for a stat (50 END, 25 SPR etc.) the returns are going to be less and less.

WizardsRequiem 02-21-2008 12:40 AM

Believe it or not but... I got to a higher level with my Cleric than I ever did with my Mage. But I enjoy playing both classes since they both use magic. But the spells for a Cleric consume upwards of 100 SP or more where as the Mage spells barely even consume half of that.

Ivramire 02-21-2008 12:43 AM

kinda funny how most mages use the lvl.1 of most their spells then.


Common sense sez' it should be the other way around x.X

WizardsRequiem 02-21-2008 12:48 AM

Unfortunately, we have to. Using anything higher than the level one spells will get us killed because the cool down times are ridiculous.

WisemanT 02-28-2008 10:57 PM

Healer or Tank Clerics
 
Greets All

I prefer using either 2 END 1 SPR or 1 STR 2 END ratio.

Does putting points in DEX or INT, help us Clerics?

Thank You & Good Day!

Blaaaaaaaah 02-29-2008 12:05 AM

INT doesn't help.

DEX might... to add aim... but I'm not sure how many clerics do that.

Hessah 02-29-2008 12:07 AM

is Bash considered a "magic atk" skill? will INT increase the dmg of bash?

but we only hv 1... at max 2 skill atk skills so it wont be worth it at all.. but i was just curious

02-29-2008 12:31 AM

mines split str end and spr 10 end 10 spr and 12str lol it works
for me and all my armor is green it all +dex end srp or spr but
if dosnt got dex i dont use it

Blaaaaaaaah 02-29-2008 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 99230)
is Bash considered a "magic atk" skill? will INT increase the dmg of bash?

but we only hv 1... at max 2 skill atk skills so it wont be worth it at all.. but i was just curious

I don't think so... o-o

Jamesv2 03-05-2008 03:19 AM

Guys, does a 3:1 STR : END build until 20, then Add +5 END from Job Change, then go 1:1 STR: END sound good to you? It's the build im using on my cleric atm.

NotMyWay 03-06-2008 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamesv2 (Post 101808)
Guys, does a 3:1 STR : END build until 20, then Add +5 END from Job Change, then go 1:1 STR: END sound good to you? It's the build im using on my cleric atm.

Sounds fine, but if you like STR to deal high amounts of damage why not just go full STR? The end result of following the build u mentioned is that u would have 5 more STR than END, which is quite close to just putting 1:1 STR:END from the beginning... although i think full STR is more for soloing... but anyway if u like ur build, then its good for u. If u dont like it, then use a build u like. I dont think theres really such a thing as a "wrong" build (unless ur going full INT or have a ridiculously high amount of DEX.)

edit: of course, its not advisable to go full STR if u mainly support, or full SPR if u mainly solo, but as long as u dont add INT u should be fine.

Hessah 03-06-2008 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotMyWay (Post 102419)
(unless ur going full INT or have a ridiculously high amount of DEX.)

actually... i think a cleric could benefit from lotsa dex too... at lvl 56, i've been duoing at blue trumpies... and even with a T2 Aim scroll, i still miss fairly often (maybe 1 every 5 hits?)

i ended up having to find dex rings and +Dex armours! which also did the trick.... but our hammer's aim is so poor... dex can be useful... (but i guess not really recommended coz you can benefit more from putting ur free stat to other builds)

Jamesv2 03-06-2008 11:00 PM

Hmm, ok. I am a Solo-er, so I think I'll continue with my 3:1 str : end, and then change to a 2:1 after 20. Thanks.

TsukiUsagi 03-11-2008 05:34 AM

Im currently using the build 1:2 for STR:END but for now, i stopped adding this build cuz i want to get 25 SPR. My build is called Endurance Build. I think the Supportive build is full SPR.

aLvhin 03-11-2008 06:10 AM

if you want a full support build in your cleric for the party, 25 SPR then all END.

battle / support cleric build - 25spr, 1:1 for STR and END

Vasu 03-16-2008 04:10 PM

I'm a pure END cleric and I don't think its the best support build...pure SPR is a better one. While my dmg is a bit low, soloing isn't exactly a pain. While a party with a mage or archer (archer preferably cause they can return the aggro to me :p) is always welcome, it isn't exactly a necessity.


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