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seal 01-30-2008 09:14 PM

Well ive been peed that i couldnt find a single one bfore then a higher lv told me were to look an how to raise my chances alot. The only requirement being lv 50. Theres a lv dungeon called Bonds Of Darkness. Thats the only place these elusive weps have been found or gotten but very rare. The way to enhance ur chances is this way:

get a gathering touch enchant from the fiesta store. go on tuesdays or thursdays. (for some reason days make a difference on how u get items) after doing that just go hunting an make sure if u bought that u buy the bless of teva to in case u die alot. Another way is wait on days were the GMs raise the drop lvs of the server. Best time to especially if u got the gatherer pack on to. anyways this is my insight. u can believe me or not an for those holding the secret -.- the secrets out... XP

oh forgot to add that the free way is harder but at least I told you the local XD

Hyper 01-30-2008 10:27 PM

A lot of that isn't true. o___o

Loveless 01-30-2008 10:48 PM

And if you touch your nose and spin 3 times it raises your chance too.

Belaslav 01-30-2008 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loveless (Post 81315)
And if you touch your nose and spin 3 times it raises your chance too.

Hey it works!

Ralath 01-30-2008 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperswoss (Post 81308)
A lot of that isn't true. o___o

Enlighten us? :P

alexbre 01-31-2008 12:36 AM

*listens to instructions* WOAAAH, im dizzy, no drops >.<

Hyper 01-31-2008 01:43 AM

Lower leveled CP mobs & Karasain Arch Tempers drop them, but it's rare.

viasta 01-31-2008 01:49 AM

lv50 Rare 1H sword is godly, and it's fact

Hyper 01-31-2008 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by viasta (Post 81491)
lv50 Rare 1H sword is godly, and it's fact

It's "fact"?

viasta 01-31-2008 02:32 AM

i saw it on japanese site :P

seal 02-01-2008 06:28 AM

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...tled-1copy.jpg

see... you could have not said anything in the thread by calling me untrsutworthy an a liar but no... you had to call me out an dis my rep... im very truhful an i never lie.... FYI even with all this info theres some problems:

1-YOU NEED TO BE 50-59
2-ITS NOT A SOLO PLACE
3-ALL YOUR PT NEEDS THE GATHERING PACK TO CAUSE THEIR LUCK AFFECTS URS OR WHOEVER GETS LAST HITS ON MOBS!!!
4-AFTER 100 KILLS IN THERE DOES IT EVEN SHOW ANY SIGN OF COMING UP AS A DROP. ITS FACT THAT EVERY 100 KILLS U GET SOMETHING BIG NOW THESE DAYS. SO IF U GO TO CP AN KILL 100 THINGS, THE FIRST 50 WILL DROP SOMETHING LIKE A NECKLACE OR RING OR SOMETHING OF MEDIOCRE VALUE. AFTER THE 100TH KILL YOU MAY RECIEVE A WEPON OR AMROUR. WITH ALL THIS IN MIND ITS NOT THAT EASY STILL!!! AN ITS STILL CONSIDRABLY RARE TO FIND!!!
5-noobs cant just go there so ya... BOD is hard anyways so its not really as easy as i made it sound.....

- dont call me a liar... i will prove u wrong. an i was going to come in here an edit thread but since u called me out i had to show i know wat im talking about.
-I OWN 3 BLUE WEPONS!!! 2 of which are with my cousins cause im not an archer or mage in the game an another which i cant use till 50...
- i now know were to get the lv 70 blue weps cause sylvia told me :)

an one more thing dont try that ever again ok? i was trynig to be nice. then u called me out... blame it on urself

Hyper 02-01-2008 06:38 AM

Idiot, do you have any idea how many farmers and bots there will be now?

If people asked via PM, I told them where to go, but now you put it out for any random person to see. Good job.

P.S. The 70 blues don't even drop yet. Sylvia won her's in a contest.

Loveless 02-01-2008 06:41 AM

It's not going to do you any good to come out and flame him back; ease off on the caps lock. Do what you believe to be true. Drops, in my opinion, are strictly luck based anyway. I can tell you now that I've killed 100+ without a single 'good' drop. I doubt it's any different in Bonds of Darkness.

In addition, I'm not sure if the monsters who drop em are the same as in Fiesta but mobs that do drop the blue weapons can be found in Collapsed Prison as well as in the level 60 boss dungeon.

seal 02-01-2008 06:42 AM

ask him :) he got his in contest but Dakkon told him were they will be soon tho :) an ur avading the point u called me out. dont blame me for ur miss fortunes :) an even as a bot itd be harder to "FARM" there lol. soloing there takes a "VERY" long time to get a blue wep cause i dont think most will want a bot in their pt... so those bots wont be that great to traverse there unless they were with others... so ya... get ur facts straight :)

edit: btw they need the gatherer pack or they wont get half the potential of the drop rate... an if u ask me its still hard with the gatherer pack as i was told... so ya technically they'll waste alot of money to outspark an may never find one for ever X) i only gave my advice. i didnt say it would positivly work... you overread my topic an went straight to calling me a liar without really understanding that i put this here to just tell were an how u can raise ur chances. FYI again...

1-you got a .5% chance alone to get a blue weapon...
2-with gatherer pack an a pt of gatherer packers u raise ur chance to about 2-5%... so ya its still considerably slim... My cousin wasted alot of money on sparkcash to get only 3 blue weps which he gave me anyways cause he quit... so ya its very hard an it took him 5-6 weeks there for 3 hour grinds in there... an he played about 5-6 hours after school a day an wasted about.... 150 $ which IMO would be easier just buying GOld an buying a blue weapon...

Hyper 02-01-2008 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by seal (Post 82417)
ask him :) he got his in contest but Dakkon told him were they will be soon tho :) an ur avading the point u called me out. dont blame me for ur miss fortunes :) an even as a bot itd be harder to "FARM" there lol. soloing there takes a "VERY" long time to get a blue wep cause i dont think most will want a bot in their pt... so those bots wont be that great to traverse there unless they were with others... so ya... get ur facts straight :)

Are you honestly saying bots don't party? I never "called you out". I asked you to delete it, and you chose to do one of the most immature things you could have. A simple "no, I don't care about farmers" would have been sufficient.

So "get ur facts straight".

Loveless 02-01-2008 06:47 AM

It's actually not just "bots", there are actual player characters who are paid by these companies to farm. I've met several in AEW farming sap. They cannot program bots to harvest saps (or I don't think so at the least) nor weapons/equipment.

seal 02-01-2008 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperswoss (Post 81308)
A lot of that isn't true. o___o



that wasnt calling me a liar??? ok then... guess im just blind X)

btw read my edit above on last post before this :)

Hyper 02-01-2008 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Loveless (Post 82420)
It's actually not just "bots", there are actual player characters who are paid by these companies to farm. I've met several in AEW farming sap. They cannot program bots to harvest saps (or I don't think so at the least) nor weapons/equipment.

They could just set up a bot party and farm on another window. Then after a while check back.


I never said which parts weren't true. That drop stuff you said was BS.

First, don't encourage buying gold for the weapons. Second, the drop rate is way below 2-5% even with Gatherer's pack and on a +drop day.

seal 02-01-2008 06:51 AM

if you know anything then you should know BOD is hard... PERIOD

Blaaaaaaaah 02-01-2008 06:55 AM

Seal, the reason Hyperswoss sent that in a pm was to keep the issue private, because he didn't want to bring the flame out to the public here. But, you just defeated the purpose of a private message and brought it out to the public and created a flame baiting post.

We would have appreciated it if you would keep it to the pm's too. I cannot say that you are wrong, or he is wrong, but bringing it out to a public thread to flame is definitely wrong.

If you wish to prove yourself right, by all means, please do so. We would be more than happy to see that you're not making things up. However, there is no need to create a flame over this.

Keep the flame downs, or an infraction would be handed out.

seal 02-01-2008 07:00 AM

understood.

alexbre 02-02-2008 03:16 AM

I Agree!, *whispers*change ur sig seal

FatalLace 02-02-2008 05:15 AM

call me a skeptic, but i'd love to see a screenie of the stats of the 3 blue weapons that you or your friends currently have... can u get that for us seal? i'm intrigued!

MaxOff 02-02-2008 06:20 AM

hyperswoss im disappointed. Not only dont u want to share what u know, u also want to prevent others from sharing it? And u also advise to give out false information?

I may not tell everyone everything i know, but if i get asked i will answer correctly.

i'm really disappointed -.-

and thank you seal, for telling us. :)

booyah8876 02-02-2008 06:35 AM

This is stupid...

I'm not saying names, but jeez... people can be stupid.

Do you honestly think that on certain days, the GM's walk into the office, and say... "Hm.. it's Tuesday... better up the drop rate."

Nö.

I also don't understand where the illusion of an in game counter to see when you've killed 100+ mobs in BoD, or CP. I know I soloed a prisoner lic almost to max in CP, and only ever got 1 lvl 50 1h sword. That was after the 4th prisoner I killed... and I never got another thing!

The in game counter doesn't exist, and days have absolutely nothing to do with he drop rate. All of that is just absurd.

And if you'd like to prove ME wrong... just post a screenie of those 3 items you have. I'd love to see them.

BuzZzKiLL 02-02-2008 10:32 AM

y dont some1 jus open up fraps, and record there untill they get a drop, then simply edit it to like 5 mins.......

a.L 02-02-2008 11:14 AM

Because recording takes up a crapload of space.

Kreain 02-02-2008 12:54 PM

umm Seal they started droppign like a week ago not 5-6 weeks ago so stfu you freakin noob.

Jolt 02-02-2008 04:28 PM

I've been following this board for a few days now as a guest, and I've decided to make an account.

I honestly find it disheartening that people think it's an issue for someone to share knowledge of the game with others... play the game for yourself, what does it matter to you if other people have blue weapons? Why is it such a big deal that only a select few should know about them? This game revolves a lot around the community, and frankly, I'm not impressed by what a lot of people on ff have said regarding this. It's not as if you'll see every other person with a blue weapon by next week; it'll still be an accomplishment to find even one.

And Draein, they've started dropping long before a week ago. The cleric shield in apoline was found over 2 weeks ago, and I know for a fact that at least one person in bijou had a blue weapon before the level cap was raised.

Just adding in my 2 cents.

Hyper 02-02-2008 05:16 PM

Because those are the kinds of things people bot for, weither they are easy to get or not. I've seen people actually bot on King Marlone, so why not in BoD?

Besides, I told every person who asked me. I didn't "sell" it or abuse the info. Trustworthy people generally talk a lot differently than bots.

Spirit 02-02-2008 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolt (Post 83255)
I've been following this board for a few days now as a guest, and I've decided to make an account.

I honestly find it disheartening that people think it's an issue for someone to share knowledge of the game with others... play the game for yourself, what does it matter to you if other people have blue weapons? Why is it such a big deal that only a select few should know about them? This game revolves a lot around the community, and frankly, I'm not impressed by what a lot of people on ff have said regarding this. It's not as if you'll see every other person with a blue weapon by next week; it'll still be an accomplishment to find even one.

Just adding in my 2 cents.

I must comment on this, because I have been watching this thread. I am glad that you made an account on FF. I hope that you understand that the views posted in this thread are not the views of every member of this forum. We tend to be a little more lax in what we do on this forum, therefore this thread has been allowed to remain. We encourage sharing information; however if someone chooses to keep knowledge to themselves, we cannot force them to tell everyone. I hope that you will continue to post your knowledge and opinion on the forum. This forum has a lot to offer to those that seek help, advice, and information.

The simple fact is, this information was not going to remain a secret forever. I do not see a problem with members sharing information, how else will everyone learn. I will stay out of the battle of who should say what and what should be kept quiet. However, the fact remains that this information is becoming common knowledge. Learn to accept it and continue on with your game play.

Also, a side note to everyone posting in this thread, please remember to keep your comments from coming across as flame-baiting, or it will have to be closed. I would hate to see that, as the knowledge and information in this thread is beneficial to some.

Belaslav 02-02-2008 06:36 PM

I don't get it. I absolutely don't get it. What is the point here?

IMO, the drop rate of certain items (Ie. Blue Weps) is random and is done by numbers generated in-game. Even if the information on how to increase the chances is posted or not, is that really gonna stop all the bots? No. They'll just keep coming, and there's nothing that you can do about it except report them to GMs. If you want to deal with the bot problem, don't do it by obstructing the knowledge that other players can benefit from, do it by reporting the bots.

AngellicDiety 02-02-2008 08:56 PM

I would like to point out that the information given is totally false.

All game item drop mechanics are handled server-side.

The chance of getting a green item is determined by a random generator. However since computers cannot seed a truely random generator there can be a chance to predict the outcome.

Given that, the chance for actually recieving a blue item (elderine/roumen/uruga rings and necklaces, or other blue weapons), are incredibly low despite what you may think.

It is true that the dungeons have increased drop rate percentiles. However, only the chief monsters themselves are given a high "rare" drop rate percentile (although questionable due to the fact they have messed up the green drop rates for weapons below level 60.)

The cash shop item(s) may increase your chance but your still facing the odds.

But honestly, if this were really true I would have a Rage of cainance by now, and members from high-levelled guilds would have thoroughly exploited it by now. Bear this in mind. If blue weapons could really be dropped at that rate you would see most of them in Elfenlieds shop by now...

Ivramire 02-02-2008 09:15 PM

I thought this was common knowledge.

Everyone I talked to seemed to know where the Blue stuff dropped, but didn't think
the time required to get one was worth it (so true) .

Also "screenshots, or it didn't happen."

BuzZzKiLL 02-02-2008 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolt (Post 83255)
I've been following this board for a few days now as a guest, and I've decided to make an account.

I honestly find it disheartening that people think it's an issue for someone to share knowledge of the game with others... play the game for yourself, what does it matter to you if other people have blue weapons? Why is it such a big deal that only a select few should know about them? This game revolves a lot around the community, and frankly, I'm not impressed by what a lot of people on ff have said regarding this. It's not as if you'll see every other person with a blue weapon by next week; it'll still be an accomplishment to find even one.

Just adding in my 2 cents.

i think what he meant at 1st other than the bots is also for himself, not others, cuz wen the people start farming them and they become more common, ull find people bein kind and reducing the price greatly and eventually permanently so it will kinda make the blue weaps just 1 step above the others, instead of crazy rare. but really how many people read these forums, a couple hundred? so this whole thing was kinda blown outa proportion(i guess, there may be a buuuuunch more people that read these, but i havent noticed, i see the same names a lot), that is unless they start advertising on the main forums.

but like i sed, its jus my guess thats what he/she was thinkin

buuuut i do thank the person for sharing, and im not agreeing with lieing about it. jus puttin a lil reason on y he/she may have overreacted.

Lady-Loki 02-03-2008 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BuzZzKiLL (Post 83329)
Ok, booyah, this lil city thing is cool. so every1 else here help populate my city in Fiji pleeaase lol.


OT: I visited and I have saved a link to visit daily just as I visit mine, Booyahs & Zwivix's.

Please visit mine now. :D

booyah8876 02-03-2008 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngellicDiety (Post 83315)

But honestly, if this were really true I would have a Rage of cainance by now, and members from high-levelled guilds would have thoroughly exploited it by now. Bear this in mind. If blue weapons could really be dropped at that rate you would see most of them in Elfenlieds shop by now...

QFT!!

And Seva... you can't forget his 2 gems. >.>;;

But yeah... like I was saying... Tuesday and Thursday have nothing to do with this.

Enraya 02-03-2008 02:14 PM

Hmm, this is the way I see it:

People that have the information have the right to keep it to themselves. However, they should understand that that information isn't going to be kept private forever - like Spirit said, it won't be a secret anymore if it starts to be spread around. Knowledge of where the item is and which monsters to get it from may be kept by the person who know's it - acknowledge and respect their privacy. So what if people don't want to tell everyone what they know? It's common courtesy to stop bugging them. If they want to share, they'll share it. Sooner or later, it will become known.

Secondly, I do not think there will be people farming for these items. People are people. Is the time spent on acquiring these "blue" pixels really worth it? For me, I say no. As AngellicDiety said, it's called "rare" for a reason. When you're hunting bosses or have CS items, you just get more chances of finding a "rare" item. You still need to accept the fact that it is still "rare", meaning that you might not get it. Otherwise, every tenth shop would have that item.

As for bots, I think that they might potentially become a problem. They're mostly not player controlled, so they could continue on for days just killing the same monsters until they get a drop. I don't often see a lot of bots though =/ and still, it's a "rare" item, so the chances of getting a blue item should be slim.

That's my input on this.


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