This is why I hate Fox news.
 

They throw everything out of proportion and try to make things seem worse than they really aren't.

"It has been a week since conservative writer Kevin McCullough attacked Mass Effect for its mature content. He has since apologized in the face of extensive criticism. However, that hasn't stopped FOX News from picking up and spinning the story for its own purposes: the Mass Effect debacle has now hit mainstream media.
Using a similar title to McCullough's article, the segment "'Se'Xbox? New Video Game Shows Full Digital Nudity and Sex" featured a debate between talk show host Cooper Lawrence and Spike TV's Geoff Keighley earlier this week. Though Keighley tried valiantly to defend the game, he was outnumbered.

Lawrence and the other panel critics cited a study "out of the University of Maryland right now that says that boys that play video games cannot tell the difference between what they're seeing in the video game and the real world." This was combined with an exaggerated and falsified representation of the actual in-game content in order to suggest that the game should have shipped with an Adults Only rating. "Who can argue, possibly, that Luke Skywalker meets Debbie Does Dallas is a good thing. It's not. And I'm definitely not going to let Mass Effect in my house," one panelist concluded.

GamePolitics has a transcript of the conversation as well as a video of the panel. Though it's frustrating to watch, it's not really anything new for gamers. The mass media often targets games as the source of violence in society, and now it seems that rampant sexual deviance is another one of the many wrongs that our industry perpetuates."

why are they making nudity and sex a big deal in M rated games~_~+...wth, that's like the whole point of rate M games, nudity, sex, bloody, massive killing of everything you see, or scaring the shiz out of you, or all of the above.

Funny, I hate Fox too.

Although I hate them because they're a bunch of ignorant, racist, idiots. And Rupert Murdock (Fox owner, unless I confused names.) is a completely bias moron.

And I hate how they hand-pick stories out before airing.

"Hmm... Japanese create synthesized stem-cells, or Noah's Arc might have been found in Palastine..."

"Oh, wait, this is Fox! Arc it is!"

I put this in the wrong thread. Someone move to General Discussions plox. Thanks :3

*raises hand* 97% of my games are rated M, 1% is rated E, and 2% is rated T

Bill "The Bitch" O' Riley annoys the hell out of me.

I hate how they always act so upity and right, and non-"conservatives" (that is so ironic to use that word) are always made to look moronic on Fox. Please, anyone who says global warming is propoganda is already over 9000 on the dumbass scale.


I have to say that I take offense to that, much like I take offense to 4/5 things said on Fox.
I'm a guy, but do I think that I can go downtown or to a mall and decapitate people? Are you joking?

Moved, and is Fox the one with Nancy Grace? I love me some Nancy. <3

EDIT: Nvm, I didn't move it. I'm losing my mind. O_O

LMAO, Rightclaw, sometimes I worry about you...

LOL, I was wondering... since I was on the one that moved this. Must be all the photocopying!

And lol, this reminds me of my last year of high school in English, where we had a whole subject teaching us not to believe stuff like this, lmao. Fun.

Like you literally can't hide your kids from sex and violence. It's everywhere. They'll expose themselves to it one way or another; through friends or the media. Only way to stop that from happening is maybe what, blindfolding them and putting corks in their ears and stuffing them into a box?

Or becoming amish.

OH EM GEE! NUDITY! ZOMG!

What's the big deal? >_>;

It is a bit infuriating because the people that are arguing against the game simply refuse be reasonable about it. I was talking about this subject elsewhere so I'll just lazily paste my thoughts on it:

I read the original article that jackass wrote on townhall.com that kicked this whole ridiculous thing off and it was obvious he did absolutely no research on the subject of the article. He quite literally made up a bunch of sensationalistic bull in order to cause a stir and he succeeded beautifully there. He's an internet troll in a suit to put it simply.

That article was widely discredited and even the strict conservatives of that site began to turn on him. His "apology", so far as I read, amounted to little more than manipulating lines of his original article to make it seem like he lied less, (and he even screwed that up), followed by ending the whole thing with childish and petty name-calling to insult gamers.

I haven't played the game, but I know people that have and I've read all the stuff and I've seen all the sex scenes in the game, which amount to about what you get on nightly network television. I'm also familiar with BioWare's other work and I'm pretty sure Mass Effect is a very well told, story driven RPG of epic scope just like their Knights of the Old Republic and its sequel. Reducing the work to what they have is insulting to the creators. If it was a movie it probably wouldn't even go beyond a PG-13 rating and if it did get R it would be for violence and not sex. Yet these people say it should be rated A which would be equivalent to an X rating in a movie and that's just absurd.

Now it's gone beyond that little man and these people are still fighting a fight that was started under false pretenses and they simply refuse to listen to the plain and simple facts of the matter. They still argue under the assumption that the original article's information was true when it has been proven almost entirely false. They have not and will play the game themselves and they won't listen when people tell them the truth about the game because the truth doesn't support their arguments against it. They just keep repeating the lies as fact. It's essentially slander.

The whole thing is asinine. It's like saying that the movie Titanic was a porno flick because it had a sex scene in it. A sex scene which was probably more graphic than the ones in Mass Effect.

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So yeah, that's how I felt on the whole Mass Effect = Pure evil sex deviant thing. I don't mind people not wanting sex and violence in the games and being against it all, blah blah blah. Well, I do mind since my opinions differ, but I can accept that as their opinion which they're entitled to. I think they're too uptight and they think I'm wrong. It's nothing new; it's an old fight. Fine we can discuss it as long as it's a fair and honest debate. Now though, they're fighting the same old fight, but using outright, proven lies to back their opinions and I don't even want to bother with that fight. If their side has been reduced to that then I think my side is winning anyway.

As for some people not being able to differentiate from game and reality. That's an issue for the person(s) in question. Almost anything can be taken to an unhealthy extreme and if you take it that far, or if you allow your children to take it that far, then the blame is squarely on you. I'm not saying don't help these affected people if they need it, I do have sympathy for anyone that needs help, but don't shift the blame to the gaming industry because you can't control yourself.

One would think that the reporters, at least, have a responsibility to try to find and present honest information, but I guess that's just being naive and idealistic. I hate that I can't trust the news sources,(and it's not just FOX NEWS, though they maybe particularly partisan), but it's all I have to inform me without digging through various alternative media sources. What is or isn't true begins to lose out to what is believed and people tend to believe what they hear. It's that or get comfortable with not knowing. People don't like not knowing so even if they don't really believe the news they'll accept it as truth in order to get simple closure on whatever the matter is at the time.

This whole Mass Effect thing is pretty low on the totem pole of important matters of the world, but if they can't even be trusted to report the truth on something like this why should people believe them on other more important things?

Sorry, I know that was really long and a bit ranting in spots, but this all touched on a couple of things that actually make me angry. Sad situation. It pisses me off I'm that I've become so cynical at such a young age and it pisses me off that I've become so pissed off in general.

…probably that according to the majority of society, or if not that then those who decide these sorts of things, in the U.S.A., nakedness, blood, guns, and who knows what else is bad so it apparently should not be seen outside of real life, and only through pre-approved situations :p

…lol, i still find the bloodlessness from Xenosaga III funny, the scene below in particular XD

Seriously D: Sec played Mass Effect and I watched him play it. I saw the sex scene and I was like ooo wow I see butt and boobs. ROFL

I played and beat Mass Effect. I got the little love side mission and saw the "sex scene". Wow, you saw a girls butt and her breasts. Big deal? God of War had those. You gonna yell about that too? It was no big deal, nothing happened that hasnt happened in any other video game.

Guess what also. Its just a game. None of it is real. And to make something that happens naturally seem to wrong is pretty stupid.

Before I continue. I must state that I have never played the game nor do I intend to. The following comments are coming from a mother of an eleven year old boy. My comments are NOT towards the game as, these comments are just to show you the other side.


She is on CNN, Righty.

No, you cannot hide your kids from sex, drugs, violence, etc. However, you as a parent can do as much as possible to protect them as long as possible. Yes, eventually they will be exposed to it. My son loves sharks and movies about sharks. I rented Deep Blue (think that was the name of it) and put the movie in, plopped down on the couch with my son and some popcorn, 5 minutes later, my 11 year old son got an eyeful of breasts. Ummmm.... well crap, was my first thought. I looked over at him and he was covering his eyes but peeking out of his fingers. It embarrassed him. I would never intentionally buy my son something that I KNOW has sex scenes in it; however, the fact remains, he is going to see it somewhere, somehow. I know this, and I do not pretend like it will not happen. However, I can do my part by not buying the game. It is my decsion, my child, and should be left up to me. My feelings is put a rating on the game and leave it up to the parents.

Hmmm.... real or not, is it necessary to the playing of the game or just put in the game because sex sells, plain and simple?

I hate big news stations. Coincidently, Fox news is on right now on my TV, my mom turned it on, not me. And yeah... the reason I hate those news stations is because they're so biased. They act like the people care what the anchor person thinks(I know I don't). Instead of taking up your free time with debates between anchors... put in something more useful. As long as I get the facts and I know whats going on, I'm okay, but I don't care what you have to say about it.

I think what is more annoying (for me anyway) is not the fact that they are picking on the content (which, is somewhat legitimate) but the fact that they are doing so ONLY BECAUSE ONE OF "THEIR OWN" was criticized for it and now they feel like they have to stand up for him.

Puh-lease.

Convenient that Fox News decides to go major on this ONE game, isn't it?

Also, off-topic but that psychologist lady really... irritates me. She sounds like she is giving one of those infomercials with really bad acting. Her response after the guy asks her if she's played the game sounds especially fake.

Its not necessary to the playing of the game. Its a little side mission or side quest. You don't have to do it to complete the game.

This is so stupid... Fox Noise needs to stfu.

I love how no one plays the game, and they make all the assumptions like that. I will personally kill them all.

Did I hear them say that you can even control what happens between them, "[I]f you know what I mean..."

are they saying you can control what sex positions they go in?

They = f*cking retarded.

http://gamepolitics.com/2008/01/26/c...t-mass-effect/

Ha.

LMAO. I so told you all.