Increase in prices?
 

Ive been shopping around elderine, trying to purchase scrolls, since I don't make my own, and the prices are rising. Just a week ago, power scrolls were around 100c. Now I can't find them for less than 200-250c. Some people are even trying to sell T1 scrolls for 1s. What is going on? Why are people rasing prices so high?

noobs?

Same, I can't find any T1 scrolls for 100c anymore. Except for a lovely scroll maker. 8D

But yeah, it sucks, I walk around all the town maps, and I rarely see T1 scrolls for 100c. Makes me sad.

Noobs for sure, and people that like to scam you, in Apoline there is a lot of people that put the name of the shop as "scrolls for 100c" but in truth they put the price as 10s and 100c hoping to cheat you of your money :s

I know that during the drop bug I had raised my scroll prices because it was harder to get the supplies.

Now that I've increased my abilities in decomp, I can make 250 vit. scrolls easily and sell them low so that they will sell quickly, but SBL is still hard to come by for me, so I've always priced them for at least 200c and they've sold quickly.

SECBRO!!!!! Please see my many many many many posts in the G____G forum!!! I am a scrollmaker!!!!! I have told all my guildies that I will sell to you at a dicounted price!!!! Just post in there what you need and how many and they are yours!!! Also, if you provide the mats - they are FREE!!!!!

Its all about supply and demand. Due to the increased drop rates we are making tons more (so those traditionally stingy about spending money on scrolls will now pay for them). One might argue that the increased drop rate also apply for mobs that drop t1 scroll mats, but the thing is that we get past the levels to get low quality sbl from slimes/lizards/vivis fast, so compared to other factors this creates much more buyers than suppliers. Another thing is nowadays noobs are making so much more from the green drops they simply do not care about selling a stack of 50 scrolls for mere 5 silvers overnight. I've visited Elder these past few days and there are virtually nowhere to buy t1 scrolls. t2 scroll prices jumped from 2s to 10s. There is a very simple way to solve these problems (but I dont want to mentioned it and if you do know please do not mention it as well), since competition is bad........... very bad!!! :p

So no wonder when I go on my selling scrolls marathons, I sell out very quickly. I am not looknig to see if I can make the MOST money, I just want to turn a profit and keep on trucking. I sell my T1 scrolls for 100 copper and my T2 for 1 silver 500 copper, and my T3 for 3 silver 500 copper - 4 silver.

The scrolls I'm having most headache with buying is Concentration Increase (my personal favorate as a mage), but the price is simply too high for me to use them often (there is no skill to buy, so if I want the 2% extra critical & extra int I will have to pay 10s per hour, which is bloody too mucy for me). T.T

Depending on your level, there is a level 40 something repeatable quest and the reward is a stck of 2 Concentration T2 scrolls everytime you complete it. It is a great way to stock up on them. I am saving mine for when I have to face big bosses or my level 60 job change.

Anybody who plays and MMORPG should have a basic understanding of economics, especially if you want to try and Merchant. If you don't, try and take a class, or take a look on wiki.

I used to merchant a little bit when I was lvl 18-24. I would teleport to Elderine and buy up all the scrolls I could at 80-100c and then come back to Roumen and sell them for 149-199 a piece. Helped me get some great weaps and armor to grind through to where I am today.

Now I'm able to get the materials for T1 skills more than fast enough on my own, so if I wanted to merchant for a bigger profit I'd have to find another market.

Note: The economy has changed drastically since the update, so i doubt my technique would work anymore. Best thing to do is identify locations where people need things and locations where others have it abundantly. Then buy for a fixed price and sell for more.

Here is my thoughts on it. If I can set up a shop in Roumen and buy all my supplies at a reasonable price, then I can set up my shop in Elderine and sell at a reasonable price. I buy low and sell low. I still turn a profit, and can sell out of my scrolls relatively fast. This gives me more time to do other things in the game and I am still bringing in a steady profit. I am by no means, the richest person in Isya, but I am making a decent living.

That's pretty close to my philosophy, but I stopped buying. I just get my supplies while grinding.

I sell vit's for 149 or 199 and powers for 199 or 249 depending on my feeling of how fast I want to sell them.

Yeah, and it is easy for me to set my buying shop up while I am at work, so when I get home, if I did not get d/c, then usually my buying shops are empty. Then when I go to bed, I set my shop up again, depending on if I wanna buy or sell. So, I have the time available to waste buying mats. This leaves my evenings for playing and not buying or selling.

Funny thing about the prices, at least in Bijou.

1st, I noticed the price raise. At one point, there was a lack of scrolls. Meanwhile, people selling at 200, even 300c were making some sales. When you buy a 300c scroll, the merchants notice. I know I did, which lead me to start buying out 100c scrolls and selling for 175c. It also helped that I reached T2 on decomp, so now I can use SBLs and convert them to SBLlq.

Thing is, I think alot of people noticed the uptick in scroll demand. Now I'm seeing masses of folks selling them. I nearly went broke trying to buy all of someone's 80c scrolls. Now I'm seeing scrolls everywhere.

Along with that, there's still a high profit for making the things. If you buy the mats at the highest price I've seen people buy at (SBL at 50c while Leather at 15c) you still end up paying 115-145c to make the scroll, and I doubt most people are buying the mats at those prices. The point? High profit on an item + high supply = plenty of room and reason for the price to go down.

While Inflation does hit MMOs, I don't think 200c scrolls are the future. The price is in flux, between rich people temping merchants by paying 350c for a scroll and the mass of scrolls being produced and sold, but I believe the prices will drop to around 125-150 with some 100c scattered about.

I think one of the things that is unique about Fiesta is that a lot of the items you buy from players (such as scrolls and pots) can only be bought from other players. There is no way to NPC buy a scroll or pot. Elrue yes... but for 270c??? Who is going to pay that? Because you can't just go get the item for a set ceiling price, it is going to have more flux.

For instance, lets say you just got a piece of standard armor from a quest, but you buy an enhanced version. Now you try to sell off the standard piece. Certainly you can't expect to sell it for as much or more than somebody can buy it from the NPC. Imagine if this was the case for scrolls. Then they would never sell for above a certain amount.

This economy is ran by little pre-teens I swear(no offense if anyone here is a preteen). As items become more common, the prices go up? o.O They should be going DOWN.

Well the economy is really just a composition of the people in it.

I used to go around in Roumen and buy up ALL of the scrolls that were being sold for less than I wanted to sell them for, and THEN open up shop. If you have all of something, then you can sell it for whatever you want (until more people come along with their own scrolls).

Am I a preteen? No. Is what I did wrong? I'd rather think it is clever. Besides, I wasn't making that much of a profit off of it.. and those selling to me were making their money.

Was it annoying to those that wanted scrolls right then? Probably. But more likely than not the urge to have a scroll outweighed the extra 49c they were giving to me.

It's the same thing with anything else you buy in the real world. Sure you could make it yourself, but it's less effort, time and energy to just pay somebody else for it, and if the only one you can buy is a few cents more than you'd like to pay you'll still buy it if you really need it.

I still see a lot of T1 scrolls in eld for 200c, where have you been? xD

Nope, i expected rising prices.

Most people forget that a the mayor part of the item drops will be npced, and so becomes money.

That means witht he rise of the drops, the amount of money rised too. The problem is that most of the item are npced, thus increasing money more then the avaible items.

The result: items become more and more worth. Best tatic to become rich? Buy Items, alot of them. With time the sell prices will rise.

This is seen so many times in apoline><. though the prices for our scrolls range from 70-150c u can find random numbers for scrolls around elderine.

Sorry then >.>. I forget. I post what I need in G____G forum

I cant find T1 scrolls for less that 200c. They should sell for no more than 100-120c

Vitality scroll shouldnt be so expensive since the mats u need for them can come soooo easily...

anyway... a point i thought of is... for ppl like me..

i'm now using SBL T2 to make T2 Aim scrolls and sell it for much quicker and more profit than to decomp them and make it into T1 Aim/Def scrolls...

as ppl move onto the new stage... we're not selling T1 scrolls anymore.. hence less supply... price goes up...

Maybe... just maybe...

Or maybe... it's just a bubble and people keep buying more and more scrolls and then keep pricing them higher and higher and then more people keep buying those scrolls...

and sooner, the price is going to come down.

And if not, there's always our alts to do the dirty work so we don't have to. ;)

The supply of material is harder to come by due to more and more people producing scrolls.

Also, people are used to buying materials cheap, and are unwilling to pay more. For example, I've seen shops buy Crude Leather for 50c, which is the same as the NPC price. If you expect to get materials, you better start paying out.

I still sell Vitality scrolls for 80c, though. They sell out in 15 minutes at most.

LOL! have u still got your 5000 vitality scrolls to sell?

They were gone a long time ago, lol.

Vended them by the stack in Elderine...while writing a research paper.