What is the point of bleed/trip?
 

Does anyone know if there is even any use for these skills? I know that there comes a point where bash no longer gets upgrades, but i checked the skills in uruga and it seems that even a level 4 bash has more damage then maxed bleed/trip. moreover, bleed/trip have longer cool times and more SP usage, and according to FiestaWiki, the only advantage is that it can be chain cast with bash. Is this really useful and a good enough reason to empower these skills or should I use all empowerment points on bash? because I was thinking about maxing the cool time of bash if bleed/trip are going to be useless... Also, do these skills have a shorter casting time then bash?

I just turned lvl 40 this morning, and i must say that trip is HORRIBLE, I was fighting harkans and it only ended up doing 30 more damage than a regular attack.. I honestly don't know why they would even make it if it would be this awful, it's a waste of sp and money. If I were you I wouldn't buy it, worst 18s I've ever spent.

In Bright Kingdom/Shine Online they both can stun mobs.

I think in the Korean Fiesta too.

ok thanks... so i should not bother using any empowermets on these right? and btw is there anyway to play bright kingdom/shine online or do they block foriegn IPs?

I would not recommend it. The maximum power of Bleed/Trip and Break is only slightly better than Bash [04]. If you plan on empowering an attack skill, stick to Bash. Its maximum damage goes up to 1180~1388 damage at Bash [10], which is acquired at level 77.

I would also save some points for yet another skill, which is Extinguish. It lowers the target's strength, supposedly.

Bright Kingdom is currently impossible because of an IP ban.

Shine is just really hard to register, because you can't translate the registering page. No tools can, its like flash/pictures.

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Ergo, this is a forewarning.

They're illegal, and a criminal offense. In Korea, they account for identity theft and fraud, and are subject to respective punishments that may incur.

Proceed to hunt for one at your own risk.

I took it out. Edited your posts.

Ok i guess ill just stick to legal fiesta... but how did u find out about those high leveled skills that havent been updated on the official websites? I dont know of any skills higher then invigorate...

its needed for GW/PVP
 

Clerics need all the extra dammage they can get even a little helps when finishing off someone b4 they can use a pot or stone

These skills with crits are the only way a cleric can kill anyone else

A general strategy would b to wait for 1 or two crts in a row or very short time then hit a bash and a trip to finish them off

Definitly max dmg on bash
i put a few in trip and it made a difference in PVP
not at all in PVP trip is not that important in PVE



Sidenote

If u can afford it / make it get a +9 wep
it makes all the difference^^

Can i kill the animation delay of trip/bleed by casting it straight after bash and maybe follow by a heal?

coz the power of trip/bleed is not great enough to be worth the delay... but if i could cut down on delay... then maybe... i should consider buying that skill....

They're basically useless.

I so sorry, Blah. >o>

Well i just reached level 40 recently and decided to buy trip just to see what the animation looks like... and tested it out too... while the extra damage isnt much, i suppose its a skill to be used when bash is cooling down..

Ha, it is kind of a worthless skill. However it depends on how you use it... for example it is very effective to be used after using a heal to avoid a delay between your next attack and the other advantage is the crit chance. It can also be used right after bash to get a crit and faster recover from just using bash. So basically I use to recover from using other skills and hope for the extra crit as well.