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snakz 07-05-2007 04:42 PM

Archer are damm strong
 
Right now in the game everyone believe that the full end cleric is the strongest char ingame.

some believe that the fighter will be the first to kill the cleric in a 1v1 pvp with the stun and the high weapon damage of their attack

some believe it will be the mage that will be the first to kill the cleric in a 1v1 pvp with it debuff and high magic damage skill

however when the place the archer and a cleric in a 1v1 pvp everyone say that it will be the cleric that win hands down(readed it on other post from this and other forum)

it really make me sad :( that so many people underestimate the power of the archer and happy as well. cause i can't wait to see their faces when it gonna be a archer to be one to that win the cleric most of the time( must remember no build is invincible can't win all the time)

i believe in that a right archer build will be the answer to winning the full end cleric. hopefully im on the right path now. :cool:

not offend to any cleric. it just that u guys are really strong right now and u are a target for most people. u should be happy:D .please still let me into ur party :p

Synelia 07-06-2007 05:15 AM

yeah the archers are looked down at because the stats don't work well for us (I think..) cause we need str but we need dex but we need all the stats but int really...basically...correct me if i'm wrong..i make my own build so i only do what i think is the right build..

But one day, I'm sure we get some awesome powers (I saw Funtrix usse a few archer moves that looked kick ass) that will prove people wrong about the archers!

+Tequila+ 07-06-2007 05:44 AM

Ok let me put out this fire before it really starts blazing:

Technically Clerics can be considered the strongest class simply cause of the ability to heal themselves an deal damage.Archer Vs. Full End Cleric in pvp...the Cleric will win simple as that. Why do i say this: Cleric defense will lower the Archers damage to about zilch. After that its jus a matter of dpsin the archer.Also with Stoneskin+End the Cleric will block a good majority of the Archers attacks.

If you were around a few days ago when Funtrix was making random guilds then you might know that we *Harlequin* warred him...his archer is lvl 65 my cleric was lvl 46 at the time and even with him spamming attacks and stacking Bleeding and Poison on me he couldnt kill me. Archers are'nt a high damage class they are spammers best used spamming D.O.T spells to annoy people you will never solo anything let alone a cleric with Archer..a Mage maybe, But a full End Cleric or a Fighter you've got no chance in hell of dropping them.

In response to speculation the first class to drop a cleric in pvp: More then likely a Fighter , Mages cool times are just to effy...and Ive already explained about Archers.

Blaaaaaaaah 07-06-2007 06:37 AM

snakz, I hope you are right, I'd love to be able to bring up a strong archer. Dx It just seems to be so hard.

Psylex 07-06-2007 10:29 AM

I'm sorry archers aren't really damn strong. I think I can see traps being useful in PVM though. But I'm curious to see how affective traps are in PvP when a real person simply avoids your traps most of the time. I wouldn't say that Archers are the weakest, because I don't know what lies in store for them when they are 60+ but the honest truth is if I go on all the facts I have now. I will claim that they are the least advantaged.

chinhchinh 07-06-2007 11:14 AM

Well, there's a power imbalance between Clerics and the rest of the classes due to the amount of skills available. In the 1st phase of CB, clerics were able to use most of the skills available to them, some skills of the other classes were unavailable to them, thus some classes weren't able to be used at their potential.

Synelia 07-06-2007 03:45 PM

perhaps the clerics are easiest to lvl, as all healers are, and they need their skills at an early lvl for the party system and such, I'm not sure. But if what teq says is true, I think there should seriously be something done with that, all the classes should be relatively equal at the same lvls. But archers fall behind quickly enough and can't do anything helpful in a party besides poisoning or bleeding a monster. Other than that it's only damage. We need something else >=o

Kitager 07-13-2007 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synelia
We need something else >=o

Agreed. I will be concentrating on my archer for this half of CB, and I hoping that they'll be on par with the other classes.

Skeith 07-13-2007 02:53 PM

Actually Archer's are quite strong! I have 3 skill that dmg. enemy for a certain time!
Poison 90-120dmg. poisons enemy for 14dmg. per seconds for 20sec
Bleed 120-150dmg. make enemy bleed for 18dmg. per seconds for 24sec
Curse 120-50dmg. curse enemy for 26dmg. per second for 26sec
Fury impact 400-500dmg.
Power shot 710-820dmg.
I can't remember the skill name! lol and there's another skill which target enemy in a circle 120-180dmg.

My Build is +10Str. +35Dex im using 2 +11Dex ring! and i have a high crit rate! lol

Kitager 07-14-2007 04:10 AM

^ I'll try your build. My archer is only lvl 14 right now, so I've still got a little bit o' time! lol

chinhchinh 07-14-2007 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skeith (Post 5654)
Actually Archer's are quite strong! I have 3 skill that dmg. enemy for a certain time!
Poison 90-120dmg. poisons enemy for 14dmg. per seconds for 20sec
Bleed 120-150dmg. make enemy bleed for 18dmg. per seconds for 24sec
Curse 120-50dmg. curse enemy for 26dmg. per second for 26sec
Fury impact 400-500dmg.
Power shot 710-820dmg.
I can't remember the skill name! lol and there's another skill which target enemy in a circle 120-180dmg.

My Build is +10Str. +35Dex im using 2 +11Dex ring! and i have a high crit rate! lol

You have too much dex. You would be alot more stronger if the 35 dex was allocated into SPR or STR. DEX doesn't increase damage for a bow user. Though it does give evasion, you get enough DEX from leveling up and I believe that you should invest your stats into increasing your attack power.

STR or SPR rings would also be better.

Skeith 07-14-2007 05:08 AM

Yea! I got to many Dex
But i think ill gonna add more Dex till i get to lvl 60 if i could get to that lvl! lol

Triumph 07-14-2007 04:23 PM

1:1 STR/DEX build for me, works wonders...

Synelia 07-15-2007 02:14 AM

I think having more dex will add to your advantage. If you get more dex use more dex so you become much better at aim ad evasion. Of course don't pour it all into Dex but I thik some of the stat division should be in Dex.

Daghian 08-05-2007 08:11 PM

I have a 2:2:1
Str:Dex:End
and moving into
Str:Dex:Spr at lvl 30
and it pwns so far(need to get my lvl right)
The Job advancement was WAY too easy, people say it took them 2-8 tries
I used 1/4 of my pots and stones and finished first try with no close calls, and a 256 mb RAM computer so I was lagging like hell for 100% of the time hehe

Pritcher 08-05-2007 08:28 PM

My first archer was a 1:1 Dex/Spr build I took up to lvl 24 and he did pretty well around.

My new build is, at the moment, level 26 and at 2:1 Str/Spr. I was going for damage, Str for base damage and Spr for crits. I went pure Str from levels 1-20 and then switched to Spr with my job change points and kept adding to it since. I gotta say though, I pretty much tore through everything like tissue paper going from 1-20 and, aside from an ill conceived experiment at first, the job change was a cakewalk too.

Now however I'm not sure if I want to keep it 2:1 or make it more Spr heavy than it is. Maybe 1:1 Str/Spr, I think Spr will only become more useful the higher I get.

Skeith 08-05-2007 10:06 PM

i just reach Lv50 and My eva is 371 and my atk is with a Lv50 +9xbow is i think

702-780 =D

Valentines 08-05-2007 10:22 PM

Ur sig is outdated then ;D

Skeith 08-05-2007 10:49 PM

Yea, i dont have the time to fix it! lol =D

Pritcher 08-05-2007 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skeith (Post 10613)
Yea, i dont have the time to fix it! lol =D


No worries Belldandy's still cute as hell. Her sister is hotter though, (Urd not Skuld).

Keiichi is kind of a punk though; how come when I dial wrong I never get Heaven sending me goddesses... :mad:

Whudafux 08-07-2007 01:53 AM

Hmm.. I'm doing a Full SPR build on my archer, KevyPoo, and it's working out fantastically. <3 I have a 10% Crit Rate at the moment with my Bow, and I definately do at least 1 crit on every monster. Sometimes during KQs I do 2 or 3 Crits in a row. Dam, I love this build so much.

FULL SPR ARCHER IN OB FTW!

[And I'm probably the only archer with more SP and HP. xD]


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