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Xylem 12-04-2007 06:27 AM

Cleric Skill Bash
 
Hey i was wondering if this skill is effective.

I'm a full STR cleric, and i find that the skill only does 200% damage. The time it takes to cast the skill is about the same as doing 2 hits. When i maxed out the power skill thingy, I only do like 210% damage.

I'm not sure, but is the skill good with non-STR clerics?

FiestaBoy07 12-04-2007 06:34 AM

Well since ur a str cleric it may not matter to you. However , if you are thinking of making a non str cleric then it can be a very handy skill. It all depends on how how you choose to empower it and what stats you get up on your cleric.

I hope this helped.

Xylem 12-04-2007 07:05 AM

So what empower do you suggest for a non-STR cleric for the usage of BASH? or should i not use bash at all? lol XD. Since I'm guessing non-str clerics will mostly be partying and healing.

Spells 12-04-2007 07:08 AM

I'mnearly full end, so I increased it's power. Every bit helps when you're soloing.

Xylem 12-04-2007 07:22 AM

o okay. I'll try it out.

Hessah 12-04-2007 09:15 AM

I'm a END:SPR cleric, and bash is my next best friend after Heal...

i tend to duo (with a fighter), so my dmg helps the partying...

Bash on its own isnt terribly useful, as you mentioned, cash time and SP for about the same a crit...

But if u add 5 pts to dmg, it does 2.5x ur base dmg (license dmg doesnt stack with bash).. and if u crit.. that's 5x dmg... (but i'm a 25 SPR cleric so may i crit more)

but i still think it's pretty useful..

Xylem 12-05-2007 11:13 AM

Hmm, that compltely changed my decision. I currently have bash on nothing at all, and it does only 175% damage. 250% damage isn't a big deal considering the time it takes to cast, but if you have crit that's pretty cool...

Hmm...

NotMyWay 12-05-2007 01:08 PM

im a str/end cleric and i maxed bash power, and i use hammers... i guess if u are using hammers it would seem that relative to the attack time of hammers bash wouldnt seem that long, since hammers are slow but bash is always same speed... but im not very sure though, although i think my bash does more then double my damage... does anyone know the exact cast time of bash?

KY_Jelly 12-05-2007 07:32 PM

neat trick:

say you set auto attack to 1, bash to 2 and heal to 3.

2,3,w,1

heal cancels bash delay, walking cancels heal's delay, the auto attack takes place before you finish the first step.

clerics are the button mashers of fiesta.

Triumph 12-05-2007 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KY_Jelly (Post 53426)
neat trick:

say you set auto attack to 1, bash to 2 and heal to 3.

2,3,w,1

heal cancels bash delay, walking cancels heal's delay, the auto attack takes place before you finish the first step.

clerics are the button mashers of fiesta.

Not really. Mages button mash way more.

Hessah 12-05-2007 09:30 PM

err.. i dunno how well that cancel delay really works... or at least it doesnt seem to speed anything up for me... but an auto atk always follow up really quickly after a bash anyway... it's the casting time of the Bash (delay between the 1st auto atk and the bash) that you want to cut down on...

but anyway... if u disagree then thats cool.. but in my opinion, i've never thought the delay of bash caused the skill to be not worth it... (in another words, Bash is still worth getting even though there's a longer casting time..) but u have to empower it to at least +4 dmg...

one thing i want to add is.. bash is our most useful skill in PVP... seeing that our normal atk is rather slow and weak, a bash can take out a chunk of Mage or archer's health rather quickly before they can react to heal themselves..

we are no match for fighters since they've got waaaaaaay too much health.. but i've taken down a few mage/archers by spamming bash on them...

And agree with above, i think bash works more effectively if u use hammer

Cpt_Amazing 12-06-2007 02:02 AM

Well I'm an END:SPR cleric and I was able to solo Orcs at lvl 33. Bash was basically a godsend for me cause I buffed up the power and decreased sp for it.

I suppose that Bash would be most useful if you have a descent amount of SPR to crit mobs with. Depends how you decide to buff your skills I suppose

ThievingSix 12-06-2007 03:23 AM

you have 6 SPR....lol...

Cpt_Amazing 12-06-2007 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThievingSix (Post 53693)
you have 6 SPR....lol...

I have about 10 now, and still comes in handy when I get lucky crits

Lafieru 12-06-2007 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KY_Jelly (Post 53426)
neat trick:

say you set auto attack to 1, bash to 2 and heal to 3.

2,3,w,1

heal cancels bash delay, walking cancels heal's delay, the auto attack takes place before you finish the first step.

clerics are the button mashers of fiesta.

Yeah, I love finding ways to cancel delay. One of my favorites is the same, except with a restore in the middle.
bash -> heal -> restore -> walk -> attack

Xylem 12-07-2007 03:39 AM

All that SP for removing delays T.T

And i also dont' have the ability to press the W key... whilst my hands are on the line above it. I just don't feel comfortable doing it (just tested now). By the time my finger reaches the W key, the delay would be over already.

ThievingSix 12-07-2007 05:15 AM

All in all Bash is our best offensive move at all time. Even if you were pure STR is is still worthy of being used. We get 2 offensive moves, why the hell wouldn't you use it?

Xylem 12-07-2007 09:54 AM

I think I might save my points for the level 40 skill. I'm gonna go full support lol. (Full Cooldown time + Full SP reduction on heal).

The level 40 skill is ranged, right?...

Hessah 12-07-2007 10:13 AM

Trip/Bleed...?

i hvnt got the skill.. but i'm 99% sure they're not range...

NotMyWay 12-07-2007 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xylem (Post 54285)
The level 40 skill is ranged, right?...

unfortunately, no.

from wiki,
"Only advantage is that it can be chain cast with bash, ie no cooldown in between. However there is still a short pause after the skill is cast, similar to bash."

todd0168 12-07-2007 05:43 PM

Also, you will want to know that currently DON'T work. The stun/bleed status effects that are supposed to be a part of those attacks don't currently work. For that reason alone DO NOT buy those skills when you get to 40. I won't be buying them at all until I know that they will work.

ThievingSix 12-07-2007 06:39 PM

The level 40 move isn't worth purchasing unless you have extra money, and by no means do you want to waste points in it. It's not as powerful as the bash and takes much more SP...

Xylem 12-08-2007 04:36 AM

OH damn it.

Anyways, you know how you said that your BASH skill does 500% damage at [Lvl 5 Power Empowerment]?

Well... My bash currently has 0 empowerments, and it still does 500% on criticals. So yea.. I don't think it'll make that much of a difference if i spend my empowerment points on it.


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