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Wizardcool11 12-12-2010 01:53 PM

lev 60 job change for clerics
 
what was outspark thinking when they made the lev 60 Job change?!?!?!?!?!?!? the clerics abilities are specifically targeted...

1. the zombies high poison rate makes it pointless to cure...
2. the clerics worst enemy... stun... is found in gambler king joker
3. we have no aoes and heals ability to draw aggro in part 3 is reduced...
4. we can't heal roumen and elderine.
5. our damage is lowest and we have fewest dd skills to get the mobs aggro off those two...

WTF... I only get 2 hours a day and a swore I would be a paladin (first character) by end of December...

Kaini 12-12-2010 05:10 PM

I don't know that your problem is, I beat the job change as a cleric on my first try x3
1. At least you can heal it. Imagine being a mage xD low HP +poison = bad xD
2. So bring a few stones xD
3. tab through them all, just worked fine for me.
4. the other classes can't either XDDD
5. oh well, like i said, TAB and bash xD And healing takes a fair amount of aggro.


It's supposed to be difficult. Each class has thier own problems while doing it x3 Just keep trying.

Mandariinivaras 12-12-2010 06:12 PM

Yeah like seriously it isn't that bad at all. ;P

1. Then don't. :P
2. And his dmg su.. well fails.
3. They're not that squishy. o.e
4. Fine I admit it would help. xD But wouldn't that be too easy then?
5. Because clerics are for support.

xShizumax 12-12-2010 07:28 PM

well i will give you my trick, i know its true clerics do have low damage and it might be quite hard to take agro from roumen and eldy since we dont have any aoes, but theres one kind of agro that clerics can have O,o... we call it "HEAL AGRO" the more hp healed the more agro you get, so when you are going to do the 3rd part of job change take off your shield and a piece or two of your gears, always run to the mobs right when they spawn, specially by the side of elderine since shes weaker than roumen, spam rejuvenate as much as you can while spaming tab and bash, i have done this on 3 clerics and it has worked fine for me ^^ good luck

CalmSoul 12-12-2010 11:21 PM

Was it really that bad? I mean like said earlier, u have heal aggro!

DemonBlitzKragor 12-13-2010 04:38 PM

It's honestly not that bad. To be honest, i wish they'd revamp it for the other 3 classes, as for the clerics, it kinda teaches you the fundamentals of being a clanker, and shows you how to heal to make sure you do or don't tank aggro, depending on the situation.

Helion 12-13-2010 05:01 PM

It isn't that hard to pull off, first, get T3 scrolls and use them, then you can withstand anything they throw at you. Then, when you are in the final section, stay near Eldy and run through the mobs heading for her on the way toward Roumen, By doing this, she barely gets touched and you can tab through all the mobs to kill them fairly easily. Honestly, the hardest part of part 3 is not being bored to death waiting for the next waves to come.

AVTXL386 12-13-2010 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaini (Post 429849)
I don't know that your problem is, I beat the job change as a cleric on my first try x3
1. At least you can heal it. Imagine being a mage xD low HP +poison = bad xD
2. So bring a few stones xD
3. tab through them all, just worked fine for me.
4. the other classes can't either XDDD
5. oh well, like i said, TAB and bash xD And healing takes a fair amount of aggro.


It's supposed to be difficult. Each class has thier own problems while doing it x3 Just keep trying.

but clerics best ability IS to heal. not being able to heal them puts them at a disadvantige to the other classes because of their sucky damage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandariinivaras (Post 429855)
Yeah like seriously it isn't that bad at all. ;P

1. Then don't. :P
2. And his dmg su.. well fails.
3. They're not that squishy. o.e
4. Fine I admit it would help. xD But wouldn't that be too easy then?
5. Because clerics are for support.

how dare you say such a thing. true that clerics can support other classes, but that they are soley for support is blasphemy. if clerics are just support, how can they be expected to do anything by themselves? including pass the job change. yes there are a LOT of balance issues with them, but support? thats a low blow on the problem with balance. every class has a way to "support" the other classes in a party. healing is NOT support, otherwise clerics couldn't heal themselves. think about it. :hulksmash:

come to bijou and I will show you how I will "support" you with my hammer/mace in FBZ

to Wizardcool11: healing aggro. your argument is now invalid. :P good luck with that!

edit: looks at current level. --> Current Level: 1. xD <---
start talking when youve actually played the game. and better yet, I can come to legal with a new level 1 and bash you in there :angry:

coles1 12-14-2010 01:46 AM

Yeah it was pretty easy for me on my cleric, in fact I got kingdom quest titles from the first part by doing it so much. And for the 3rd part, as people have been saying, just use heal and rejuvinate a lot and tab the mobs. Should work out pretty well.

aqhibahmed 12-14-2010 09:17 AM

Doing it as a cleric is nothing :zzz: I first hit lvl 60 on my mage Q.Q

Damn hard

Evaaahs 12-15-2010 05:24 PM

I failed the first time on my cleric because I forgot to heal myself LMAO

Kaini 12-15-2010 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evaaahs (Post 431012)
I failed the first time on my cleric because I forgot to heal myself LMAO

:cheeky::cheeky::cheeky::cheeky:

Wizardcool11 12-15-2010 11:40 PM

uhh... forgetting to heal... I did that many times when grinding, thinking which stack I should drop for that nice green on the floor... save the rainforests... go "green"... weapons of course....

Mayuka 12-18-2010 02:36 AM

wow seems kinda hard there

Wizardcool11 12-18-2010 06:42 AM

Thank god u can now see the target of ur target and bash those attacking roumen and elderine...

zephyr-aryn 12-20-2010 01:17 AM

The first two parts were cake really. We can self-heal enough that there's not much of a need to cure. The rest of the classes can't cure or heal as efficiently as we can and they make it through just fine.

As for the third part, healing to obtain agro and tabs are your best firends. You might also want to have the arrow down option for what you have tabbed so you can see who it is targeting. It shows the target as well as their hp, which is helpful so you know which NPC is in need of the most help.

(Although I would have loved to be able to heal the NPCs...)

Wizardcool11 12-21-2010 04:18 AM

but i thought someone said the heall aggro is reduced?

zephyr-aryn 12-22-2010 02:52 AM

Well...there is less heal agro for pre-60 job change clerics, partially because you lack the number of heal skills. Also you lack awaken, an aoe heal skill that is a huge agro magnet. When party mobbing or aoeing, the agro it attracts can really become apparent. If done at the wrong moment, it can be the skill that will set the mob on the cleric and kill them.

crystalblueheart 12-31-2010 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zephyr-aryn (Post 431512)
The first two parts were cake really. We can self-heal enough that there's not much of a need to cure. The rest of the classes can't cure or heal as efficiently as we can and they make it through just fine.

As for the third part, healing to obtain agro and tabs are your best firends. You might also want to have the arrow down option for what you have tabbed so you can see who it is targeting. It shows the target as well as their hp, which is helpful so you know which NPC is in need of the most help.

(Although I would have loved to be able to heal the NPCs...)

What do you mean by arrow down option...it sounds helpful. And how do I set it up?


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