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Jikanu 01-16-2010 09:17 PM

BSoD
 
I got it... i cant access my system through anything other than safe mode. is there anything i can do?

if i can just get in long enough to do a system restore, it might work. im not sure, though...

Destrus 01-16-2010 09:28 PM

if you can get into safe mode you should be able ot do virus scans and stuff from there. hmm depending on the cause i think boot using last working configuration might work too.

Jikanu 01-16-2010 09:30 PM

i'll try that... just need to be able to get in...

Jikanu 01-16-2010 09:33 PM

Nope. Last good configuration didnt work.

Andromeda 01-16-2010 09:41 PM

If you have a camera please take a picture of it so I can see the entire details. It may be hardware failure but I just want to be sure.

Destrus 01-16-2010 09:41 PM

when do you get the bsod?

Jikanu 01-16-2010 09:54 PM

After logging in, i get to a screen that asks me how i want to boot windows; if i go to normally, or with my last good settings, it gives me a blue screen with the following error code:

0x00000050 (0xA6D2D000, 0x00000000, 0x8059DCFD, 0x00000000)

I couldnt take a picture, but its that error code with the following text. minus everything after the error code, and it says "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" or something along those lines, rather than "DRIVER_IRQL_LESS_OR_EQUAL:

http://jmobley123.files.wordpress.co...-of-death1.jpg

I hope that's enough info... x.x

Andromeda 01-16-2010 10:04 PM

Yes the driver error is the most frequent BSoD error you would normally see. But in your case you haven't got that error...

Ok that error means either one of 2 things

1. You have defective RAM somewhere could be your main RAM or even your video cards RAM.
2. You have incompatible software anti virus software can actually cause this error too among other programs. (Think back to when this first started happening did you install any drivers or software right before this started)

You would definitely want to rule out number 2 being the issue before coming to the conclusion you have faulty RAM in your computer somewhere. I suggest a full hard drive reformat if you can not find the program responsible for the BSoD (If that is the problem that is). If the problem still persists after the hard drive format then you have faulty ram in your computer.

Lirange 01-16-2010 10:12 PM

He defragmented his hard drive yesterday:o
Not sure if that's the problem thoughxD Might help ya.

Andromeda 01-16-2010 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lirange (Post 399232)
He defragmented his hard drive yesterday:o
Not sure if that's the problem thoughxD Might help ya.

Defragment wont work you may need to clear the hard drive completely these errors can be nasty as even the smallest thing can cause these unwanted screens to pop up.

A reformat of the hard drive will almost completely pinpoint the problem but if you don't want to backup data etc I would suggest having a good think about the exact moment it first happened and go from there.

EDIT: You would definitely want to look at this site and try the resolution there
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=894278&sd=RMVP

Jikanu 01-16-2010 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andromeda (Post 399230)
Yes the driver error is the most frequent BSoD error you would normally see. But in your case you haven't got that error...

Ok that error means either one of 2 things

1. You have defective RAM somewhere could be your main RAM or even your video cards RAM.
2. You have incompatible software anti virus software can actually cause this error too among other programs. (Think back to when this first started happening did you install any drivers or software right before this started)


You would definitely want to rule out number 2 being the issue before coming to the conclusion you have faulty RAM in your computer somewhere. I suggest a full hard drive reformat if you can not find the program responsible for the BSoD (If that is the problem that is). If the problem still persists after the hard drive format then you have faulty ram in your computer.


About a week ago, i installed some emulators, and the day before yesterday, i downloaded a harvest moon ROM. Could that have caused it?

Also, it wont let me use add/remove programs in safe mode; is there another way to uninstall them?

Andromeda 01-16-2010 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 399236)
About a week ago, i installed some emulators, and the day before yesterday, i downloaded a harvest moon ROM. Could that have caused it?

Also, it wont let me use add/remove programs in safe mode; is there another way to uninstall them?

Read my edit you may be infected with spyware.

Destrus 01-16-2010 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 399236)
About a week ago, i installed some emulators, and the day before yesterday, i downloaded a harvest moon ROM. Could that have caused it?

Also, it wont let me use add/remove programs in safe mode; is there another way to uninstall them?

depending on where you downloaded it from the site itself probably had viruses and spyware on it itself or the files did. in fact i'm not sure if it's still like this but it used ot be that when looking for roms and emulators there was an 80% chance of running into spyware and viruses unless you looked in the right places.

Andromeda 01-16-2010 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destrus (Post 399239)
depending on where you downloaded it from the site itself probably had viruses and spyware on it itself or the files did. in fact i'm not sure if it's still like this but it used ot be that when looking for roms and emulators there was an 80% chance of running into spyware and viruses unless you looked in the right places.


Roms should only be downloaded either from romulation.net or a torrent I would avoid going to any other site. But if you follow the instructions through the link i gave you have around a 60-70% chance of fixing your error I would guess

Jikanu 01-16-2010 10:44 PM

the second one?

it says it could seriously mess with my comp if i dont do it right...

i only ask since it seems to be the most user-friendly one that you can do in safe mode.

Andromeda 01-16-2010 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 399245)
the second one?

it says it could seriously mess with my comp if i dont do it right...

i only ask since it seems to be the most user-friendly one that you can do in safe mode.

Follow the instructions carefully and you wont screw it up absolute worst case scenario is a hard drive reformat if something goes wrong which is highly unlikely

Jikanu 01-16-2010 10:53 PM

okay. so it requires ALL of those things? i.e. the following:

A randomly generated file name that is made up of eight lowercase letters, such as "gbqxmhia.sys," "upzvlbvv.sys," or "jsbmefvk.sys"
A date of January 11, 2005
A size of 14 KB (13,824 bytes)
A hidden attribute that is set

Note A file that has its hidden attribute set displays an "HA" in the Attributes column in Windows Explorer. For instructions on how to view the Attributes column, see steps 5a and 5b of the procedure that is described in the "More information" section.

It has no version, product name, or manufacturer information.

____

i didnt quite understand the part with the note that i bolded...


EDIT: i decided to wait till i can get someone more tech savvy to help me. i dont wanna fuck my whole machine up, so im just gonna hold off for now... however, i was about halfway through those files when i chickened out, and i hadnt found any that matched that description...

Andromeda 01-16-2010 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 399248)
okay. so it requires ALL of those things? i.e. the following:

A randomly generated file name that is made up of eight lowercase letters, such as "gbqxmhia.sys," "upzvlbvv.sys," or "jsbmefvk.sys"
A date of January 11, 2005
A size of 14 KB (13,824 bytes)
A hidden attribute that is set

Note A file that has its hidden attribute set displays an "HA" in the Attributes column in Windows Explorer. For instructions on how to view the Attributes column, see steps 5a and 5b of the procedure that is described in the "More information" section.

It has no version, product name, or manufacturer information.

____

i didnt quite understand the part with the note that i bolded...

You need to go over it completely make sure you follow the instructions in More Information so you understand what its taking about. It may take a few reads but you need to completely understand what it means. Its not too difficult all it does is tell you the attributes which you will need to see so follow the instructions in more information regarding that.

Lirange 01-17-2010 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 399248)

EDIT: i decided to wait till i can get someone more tech savvy to help me. i dont wanna fuck my whole machine up, so im just gonna hold off for now... however, i was about halfway through those files when i chickened out, and i hadnt found any that matched that description...

Andro and Triumph are probably the best tech guys here. You should really listen to what they say.

Jikanu 01-17-2010 12:51 AM

Yeah, i trust them. im doing a virus scan and stuff first... i just meant IRL. like, with someone watching over my shoulder, making sure i dont screw up x.x

Jikanu 01-17-2010 03:21 AM

if the problem IS with ram, what do i need to do?

Andromeda 01-17-2010 03:55 AM

The only thing you can do is replace the faulty RAM.

Jikanu 01-17-2010 03:58 AM

so just switch out the cards? and how would i know which ram was the faulty one?

Andromeda 01-17-2010 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 399286)
so just switch out the cards? and how would i know which ram was the faulty one?

I wouldnt switch out anything yet

There are tests you can run to find that out but like I said it would be better to see if it was something on your hard drive causing it.

If I were you Id follow these 3 steps

1. Wait your your friend to help you with the solution I showed you if he/she is unable to help you or this fails to fix the problem go to step 2

2. Format your entire drive and do a fresh reinstall of windows if you start getting BSoD right after a fresh reinstall of windows we go to the final step.

3. Finding the RAM at fault (Believe me you dont want this you just better hope and pray this isn't the case because you will need to take apart your computer for this too to run the tests)

Given what you have told me so far Im about 70% sure it isnt a hardware failure though

Lirange 01-17-2010 04:48 PM

Do what he says jik. I want to test out the gamex]

Jikanu 01-17-2010 05:03 PM

my dad worked on it, and we were able to get in. doing some scans and system resets. after that i'll do it.

Jikanu 01-17-2010 05:35 PM

Okay, its working now. hopefully its stable. i think that the problem might've been with my keyboard. it was messing up, and when i replugged it, i accidentally put it in the mouse thing for a bit, before i changed it. after that's when it started BSoDing me.

Ivramire 01-17-2010 07:44 PM

How'd your mouse/keyboard give you BSoD?

Jikanu 01-17-2010 08:01 PM

Im not sure. Just my only hunch. :/

Jikanu 01-18-2010 06:36 PM

DAMNIT! It's doing it again!

I was playing LaTale, till i was randomly DC'd. I tried to log back in, but my comp started freezing up; then i tried to ctrl-alt-del, but it was completely frozen. So i did a hard-reset, and now im screwed.

Jikanu 01-19-2010 02:11 AM

Andro, i followed all the steps again, but i couldnt find any files that matched. i assume that means #1 was the real problem... correct?

if such is the case, could i ask exactly what i need to do?

And i'd like to thank you for all your help... its really nice of you to take so much time out of your day and help me. sorry for not saying it sooner in the thread. x.x

Andromeda 01-19-2010 08:55 PM

I was wondering how long it would take before the BSoD would happen again I knew the mouse and keyboard wasn't the case but I wanted you to figure that out but you will need to do a hard drive format and reinstall windows. This is your only option left now before declaring faulty ram.

After you reinstall windows don't rush and install everything that was previously on before if you backed your stuff up as if a program is responsible for this biding your time could very well pinpoint your problem.

Basically if your BSoDs stop when you do a fresh reinstall of windows clearly something on your hard drive was to blame for it and you will want to find out what the cause of it was before so it doesn't happen again.

Jikanu 01-19-2010 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andromeda (Post 399613)
I was wondering how long it would take before the BSoD would happen again I knew the mouse and keyboard wasn't the case but I wanted you to figure that out but you will need to do a hard drive format and reinstall windows. This is your only option left now before declaring faulty ram.

After you reinstall windows don't rush and install everything that was previously on before if you backed your stuff up as if a program is responsible for this biding your time could very well pinpoint your problem.

Basically if your BSoDs stop when you do a fresh reinstall of windows clearly something on your hard drive was to blame for it and you will want to find out what the cause of it was before so it doesn't happen again.

So how would i pinpoint it? o.o

and i dont know if i, or anyone i know, has a backup of the windows OS... i'll have to check with my parents. :/


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