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Lirange 12-07-2009 01:35 AM

Intel or AMD Laptop? Need your help Triumph and Andro. Okay...maybe
 
Me and my sister are going to buy a laptop. So I would like some help on choosing a laptop. I'm going to buy it a tigerdirect, since it's really cheap. Remember, price will play a big role. So, I want to start with the basics. When I go to the website it says amd or intel laptops. I googled it but couldn't find a really clear answer. So what do you guys recommend? Battery life wont be a problem. It'll only be at home. So we can always hook it up. The big programs that will be on it will probably be Photoshop, Flash, and my games. So what laptop type, Intel or AMD?

Also, the type of games i'll be playing are games where reaction time is crucial. I don't like mmorpgs much anymore. The type of games I like and play a lot are like league of legends and starcraft. So reaction time would be really needed. I'd be playing it hooked up with a mouse of course.

After looking at prices more, I think i'll buy desktop instead. Monitor won't be a problem, I can just buy a cheap one of ebay. So, intel or AMD pc?

Hraesvelg 12-07-2009 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lirange (Post 392969)
Battery life wont be a problem. It'll only be at home.

Then why get a laptop?

Lirange 12-07-2009 01:39 AM

Price mainly. And being able to go on computer on the bed. XD

Hessah 12-07-2009 01:40 AM

Arent desktops much cheaper?

Lirange 12-07-2009 01:42 AM

You have to buy 2 parts o.o

Hraesvelg 12-07-2009 01:43 AM

Still, you get more for your money going for the desktop, even if you do have to buy a monitor. More RAM, faster processor, better graphics card, easier to keep cool, easier to upgrade...

Lirange 12-07-2009 01:45 AM

ok ok...
I guess i just assumed it. I'm looking at the prices and they are pretty cheap... Did my dad get ripped off when he bought us a desktop pc for $1000 a couple years ago from dell?

price including the monitor
and it was monthly payments

Hraesvelg 12-07-2009 01:46 AM

Dell tends to be a bit on the pricey side, but it might not have been a bad deal, depending on what the specs are.

Lirange 12-07-2009 01:48 AM

Well.. It can barely handle LoL which you can see when I play. Long load time, I lag a lot in the first 2-3minutes of the game. Sometimes I get sudden lag when it's pretty bad and i get 0 fps. I don't dare to alt tab or i'll be gone for who knows how long. It lags at the ending animation. When I press close or whatever button it is at the end it takes forever to close. Does that give you an idea of the specs?

Not to mention that going form the pvp.net client into the loading screen takes a long time..

MikeyG 12-07-2009 02:08 AM

http://www.ibuypower.com/lobby.aspx

amazing cheap computers, though you have to buy monitor seperatly.

Triumph 12-07-2009 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyG (Post 392981)
http://www.ibuypower.com/lobby.aspx

amazing cheap computers, though you have to buy monitor seperatly.

Monitors are cheap enough.

@Lirange: It depends on how much money you're willing to spend.

Lirange 12-07-2009 02:18 AM

Well we don't have a job. So many will be a big factor. I'd say $600. That's including monitor. So 500 for the desktop. We currently have around 400bucks.

Triumph 12-07-2009 02:25 AM

Do you want to build your own, or do you prefer to have yours already built?

Lirange 12-07-2009 02:25 AM

Wait, are intel and amd the only type of computers? Because when i click intel or amd dektops, they only have like 3 options each. But when i just click shop desktops there are loads of options.

Which is cheaper?xD
Note: In a couple years i'll probably be able to get a much better computer. So I don't need it to last for like. 5 years. 2-3 years would be sufficient.

Lirange 12-07-2009 02:29 AM

Would this do?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...451&CatId=2628

Oh, I want one that could upgrade to windows 7.

Triumph 12-07-2009 02:33 AM

Weak processor, 512MB DDR RAM (333 Hz lol), 40GB HD, no DVD-ROM...

It's archaic.

Lirange 12-07-2009 02:42 AM

This one looks really cool xD
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...582&CatId=2627
Any good?
Also, whats the difference between led, lcd, and plasma monitors?

Triumph 12-07-2009 02:45 AM

If you want a gaming computer, a slim computer won't cut it.

Read this for further information.

Lirange 12-07-2009 02:52 AM

Hm..
Would this be any good?
It's an AMD Phenom just like that one, though it's a different type. Holds more memory.
Has less watts, if thats a good thing..

Or this. 20 extra more dollars.

Hraesvelg 12-07-2009 02:53 AM

<insert specs for the $2500 build>

Whoa.

http://dayandadream.files.wordpress....zinmypants.jpg

Andromeda 12-07-2009 03:02 AM

AMD = Cheaper but prone to overheating more than Intel
Intel = Quite dearer but don't overheat as much as AMD

But most people usually go Intel because they are usually infront of AMD in terms of speed and people find overclocking Intels better because they are generally easier because of heating issues.

Laptop = Go with Intel I dont need to hear another overheating laptop issue (I've seen so many lol)

Desktop = Depends on reliability and performance but you are on a budget so go with AMD. To be honest you won't notice a difference if you went with either AMD or Intel on a Desktop. I went with Intel because of reliability and performance. (Your not a hardcore computer enthusiast so AMD or Intel you really wont notice a difference). Just do a bit of research before buying a computer especially if you want a prebuilt computer. You want a computer with an excellent power supply unit. (PSUs are the most vital part of any computer if these are dodgy you risk damage to other computer parts)

Lirange where do you live if you dont mind me asking?

For gaming computers having lower watt PSU is a bad thing because overtime PSUs start to lose power.

Lirange 12-07-2009 03:04 AM

Central USA
Do you need me to be more specific?

Andromeda 12-07-2009 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lirange (Post 393023)
Central USA
Do you need me to be more specific?

No never mind then. But please try to avoid any computer with Integrated Graphics card these things are never good for gaming. for 600 USD you could get a computer with a NVidia GeForce 8000/9000 series card or even a ATi Radeon 5770.

Triumph 12-07-2009 03:12 AM

Integrated graphics are a no-no for gaming. They are good for stuff like netbooks, as they don't take as much power as a dedicated.

The $650 machine has a Phenom like that HP, but it's black edition.

EDIT: @Andro - $165 for a 5770 on newegg last time I checked.

Lirange 12-07-2009 03:13 AM

oh..well that cancels out the other two options. And i'm trying to find one cheaper than the 650.

Lirange 12-07-2009 03:16 AM

This?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...5440&CatId=114

Lirange 12-07-2009 03:18 AM

This is 30 dollars more. Worth it?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883227181

Rightclaw 12-07-2009 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lirange (Post 393028)

That one has no OS...how is that even possible? (computer nub)

Hraesvelg 12-07-2009 03:25 AM

Ha! I wonder how many people don't catch stuff like that. "Yay, new computer. WTF do you mean, I need an OS?"

Lirange 12-07-2009 03:26 AM

LOL!
Nice catch. Guess that's out of the question?

Hraesvelg 12-07-2009 03:29 AM

Well, you said you wanted Windows 7 on it. It'd be ready for a fresh install.

Lirange 12-07-2009 03:31 AM

G__G
How does a computer even work without an os? Don't know much about computers.
Also, since that one is out of the question. Should it be the one i mentioned before.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883227181
or something similar to it, 30 dollars more.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883227200
Well, unless you guys recommend I not get it.

Andromeda 12-07-2009 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rightclaw (Post 393030)
That one has no OS...how is that even possible? (computer nub)

Its easier for the seller to sell a computer without the OS as it looks deceptively cheaper but for the new user when they get the computer they realize they cant use the computer because an OS wasn't included so then they have to go out and buy the OS.

My computer came without an OS I had to buy the OS separate and install WIndows 7 myself. Its much better installing windows now compared to several years ago back then you needed a floppy boot disk to load the windows OS disc.

Quote:

This is 30 dollars more. Worth it?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883227181
If its for 2-3 years go with that but try and get a 5770 in the PC if you can. If not that looks good enough for a basic budget gaming computer.

Lirange 12-07-2009 03:34 AM

I guess that'll do. If in 2-3 years I want to keep the computer, I can always just upgrade it right?
But is the other one I mentioned a better buy?

Triumph 12-07-2009 03:39 AM

I think the 8400GS was considered old even in 2007.

If you want to play games, don't skimp on the graphics card.

I always install a fresh copy of the OS on a new computer anyways, if it came from an OEM. Bloatware crap is annoying.

Hraesvelg 12-07-2009 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andromeda (Post 393039)
Its easier for the seller to sell a computer without the OS as it looks deceptively cheaper but for the new user when they get the computer they realize they cant use the computer because an OS wasn't included so then they have to go out and buy the OS.

I think you're ascribing malice where there isn't any. You can put Linux on it for free. I imagine a lot of Linux users would prefer to build their own rig, but since it states it twice I don't think there is any deception going on. No need to buy a license when you don't need one.

Lirange 12-07-2009 03:41 AM

I really don't understand graphics card talk -.-
ATI Radeon HD 4670 1GB
any good?
or
NVIDIA GeForce G210 512MB

Andromeda 12-07-2009 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hraesvelg (Post 393044)
I think you're ascribing malice where there isn't any. You can put Linux on it for free. I imagine a lot of Linux users would prefer to build their own rig, but since it states it twice I don't think there is any deception going on. No need to buy a license when you don't need one.

To people time is money and generally people new to computers wouldn't have heard anything outside of Windows and Mac. It does happen when people buy computers and they realize an OS wasn't included then they wonder where their Windows is.

Hraesvelg 12-07-2009 03:52 AM

I'm sure it happens, but really...Caveat Emptor. If they didn't post OS info one way or the other, I could understand, but I saw at least two different places (once in the title of the listing itself) where it said there was No OS.

Lirange 12-07-2009 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lirange (Post 393046)
I really don't understand graphics card talk -.-
ATI Radeon HD 4670 1GB
any good?
or
NVIDIA GeForce G210 512MB

in case you didn't see itD:
Also, my computer has a RADEON x300 SE 128 Hypermemory card and the graphics aren't that bad.. I can play league of legends on Medium settings. I can actually play on highest setting but I have lower fps.


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