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Jack_Vermillion 11-01-2007 03:05 PM

What's Up WIth the Server Status?
 
Anyone know whats up with the server status right now? Is it down or is it on?
I really dont know. I started a thread in the outspark forum ever since server was down and asking what is exactly happening, but now it seems like server is up.
The only problem is.... well.... i still cant log in.. and in fact it seems like the whole of China cant get into Fiesta... we all keep on getting Error 403. Anyone know whats happening? I'm asking here because no one replying on the Outspark forum.

Lilian 11-01-2007 03:08 PM

if that's indeed the case - if nobody from china is able to log in, I suspect they've done an IP block from the asian countries. Reason for this can only be that these countries have their own version of Fiesta.

HOWEVER, I find it pretty unlikely they'd place an IP block this late... we shall see I guess.

Jack_Vermillion 11-01-2007 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lilian (Post 35253)
if that's indeed the case - if nobody from china is able to log in, I suspect they've done an IP block from the asian countries. Reason for this can only be that these countries have their own version of Fiesta.

HOWEVER, I find it pretty unlikely they'd place an IP block this late... we shall see I guess.

amazingly this is the first time i actually want to learn how to read chinese or korean so i can play fiesta.. LOL.... im not sure about whole of asia.. but im VERY sure about china.. check this thread out: http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20480

you wont notice the China thing until like page 3... so just jump there

Oh Yeah i just noticed this thread is in the wrong place.. so can some Mod plz move it.. thanks...

Lilian 11-01-2007 03:25 PM

I skimmed through that thread, and it does indeed seem like china has been banned. I suspect they would give us some info about it soon, or maybe they'll just sweep it under the rug and not talk about it.

It might be due to China's own laws (they have alot of laws about the internet in general) or it might be what I said before; they have their own Fiesta game version, so they are restricted from using ours.

CursedMagus 11-01-2007 03:32 PM

Is it just China? Or is it like... all Asian countries? Because if it is... there goes 90% of Apoline's population. xD

Lilian 11-01-2007 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CursedMagus (Post 35261)
Is it just China? Or is it like... all Asian countries? Because if it is... there goes 90% of Apoline's high leveled people and population. xD

haha, yeah I know a certain guild in Teva will suffer a blow from this block as well.

Jack_Vermillion 11-01-2007 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CursedMagus (Post 35261)
Is it just China? Or is it like... all Asian countries? Because if it is... there goes 90% of Apoline's population. xD

LOL.. so far only china...dang.. now i really need to learn Korean or chinese

CursedMagus 11-01-2007 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lilian (Post 35264)
haha, yeah I know a certain guild in Teva will suffer a blow from this block as well.

Which Guild? Whoa... that reminds me. I'm sure Nox_Noctis, oblivion1, Cloud9, and perhaps a few other Guilds on Apoline are going to suffer big time from this. Perhaps even Warrior_Women but I doubt it. I think a lot of them are from Malaysia or where ever. Its only a matter of time before the other countries are blocked as well.

Loveless 11-01-2007 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CursedMagus (Post 35261)
Is it just China? Or is it like... all Asian countries? Because if it is... there goes 90% of Apoline's population. xD

It's about time. Maybe now most of the squiggly alien letters will disappear as well as those really, really annoying gold spammers (though I saw one last night). Not saying that the people of China are bad or anything. It's always the handful that ruins it for everybody else.

Jack_Vermillion 11-01-2007 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Loveless (Post 35271)
It's about time. Maybe now most of the squiggly alien letters will disappear as well as those really, really annoying gold spammers (though I saw one last night). Not saying that the people of China are bad or anything. It's always the handful that ruins it for everybody else.

By the way.... Gold Spammers are in fact mostly Caucasians... i wont say they are Americans because im not sure... but they are not CHinese for sure.. the reason is mainly because if you play any free MMORPG that is on a CHinese server you will not find ONE gold spammer.. and they tend to have very respectful communities as well.

CursedMagus 11-01-2007 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loveless (Post 35271)
It's about time. Maybe now most of the squiggly alien letters will disappear as well as those really, really annoying gold spammers (though I saw one last night). Not saying that the people of China are bad or anything. It's always the handful that ruins it for everybody else.

I don't mean to sound rude, racist, etc. But I completely agree with you. I'm also tired of their elitist attitudes. Then again, I hate anyone who acts that way. Anyways, this also clears up the problem of having non-English speaking people in our Kingdom Quests. No offense, but if you can't speak English or at least understand it, then don't join a Kingdom Quest. You're probably just going to ruin it for the rest of us. And yes, it has happened to me numerous times. I've even had to save an entire Mara KQ because some moron decided she wanted to rush and others followed suit and died. I'm not sure if she was Chinese but her name sure seemed like it. The only negative effect of this is that one of my friends lives in China. So we won't be able to play any more. Bit of a bummer actually. But i'll get over it.

Jack_Vermillion 11-01-2007 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CursedMagus (Post 35275)
I don't mean to sound rude, racist, etc. But I completely agree with you. I'm also tired of their elitist attitudes. Then again, I hate anyone who acts that way. Anyways, this also clears up the problem of having non-English speaking people in our Kingdom Quests. No offense, but if you can't speak English or at least understand it, then don't join a Kingdom Quest. You're probably just going to ruin it for the rest of us. And yes, it has happened to me numerous times. I've even had to save an entire Mara KQ because some moron decided she wanted to rush and others followed suit and died. I'm not sure if she was Chinese but her name sure seemed like it. The only negative effect of this is that one of my friends lives in China. So we won't be able to play any more. Bit of a bummer actually. But i'll get over it.

LOL.. Elitist attitude..... Only Chinese upper class ppl are like that.. haha....and amazingly Chinese ppl think that the upper class ppl are like that due to western influence. talking about elitist.... French ppl and Koreans are alot more elitist than China.... come to china and walk around.. you will see more beggers than snoby ppl... unless you're in Shanghai of coure....yes Mainland Chinese ppl do piss me off... but im just saying.. if you play on a Chinese Server of any MMORPG before... they dont actually cause that much Havoc as they do in Fiesta.... and secondly... your thoughts are just selfish.. you need to think about ppl like me.. who are not exactly Chinese, but are living in China. We need to play fiesta too and our Chinese is not good enough to play on an chinese server. And what you just said is very racisit because it kinda holds true in all nationality....(i lived in many countries before so I know)

CursedMagus 11-01-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_Vermillion (Post 35273)
By the way.... Gold Spammers are in fact all Caucasians... i wont say they are Americans because im not sure... but they are not CHinese for sure.. the reason is mainly because if you play any free MMORPG that is on a CHinese server you will not find ONE gold spammer.. and they tend to have very respectful communities as well.

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Originally Posted by Jack_Vermillion (Post 35281)
LOL.. Elitist attitude..... Only Chinese upper class ppl are like that.. haha....and amazingly Chinese ppl think that the upper class ppl are like that due to western influence. talking about elitist.... French ppl and Koreans are alot more elitist than China.... come to china and walk around.. you will see more beggers than snoby ppl... unless you're in Shanghai of coure....yes Mainland Chinese ppl do piss me off... but im just saying.. if you play on a Chinese Server of any MMORPG before... they dont actually cause that much Havoc as they do in Fiesta.... and secondly... your thoughts are just selfish.. you need to think about ppl like me.. who are not exactly Chinese, but are living in China. We need to play fiesta too and our Chinese is not good enough to play on an chinese server. And what you just said is very racisit because it kinda holds true in all nationality....(i lived in many countries before so I know)

Your above post is so blatantly racist it made Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. turn over in his grave. And I was only referring to video games. I do not care about the real world and how people act in it. No, no I will not think about people like you. If you can't read or understand Chinese well then start studying it. Otherwise move out of China. And explain to me which part exactly is racist because I do not see any racist comments in there.

Jack_Vermillion 11-01-2007 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CursedMagus (Post 35283)
Your above post is so blatantly racist it made Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. turn over in his grave. And I was only referring to video games. I do not care about the real world and how people act in it. No, no I will not think about people like you. If you can't read or understand Chinese well then start studying it. Otherwise move out of China. And explain to me which party exactly is racist because I do not see any racist comments in there.

LOL.... for the second post I am only saying things I see on TV and history textbooks... and the first post is based on Experience and I even give sufficent example to stand my point. therefore not exactly racist. After veiwing through my Screenshots.. yes I agree there are Chinese Gold Sellers... but there are still alot more nonChinese ones...

"I'm also tired of their elitist attitudes. Then again, I hate anyone who acts that way. If you can't speak English or at least understand it, then don't join a Kingdom Quest. You're probably just going to ruin it for the rest of us. I've even had to save an entire Mara KQ because some moron decided she wanted to rush and others followed suit and died. I'm not sure if she was Chinese but her name sure seemed like it. No, no I will not think about people like you. If you can't read or understand Chinese well then start studying it. Otherwise move out of China."

Umm.... let see..... Ur supposing a noob is chinese because the IGN looks Chinese... guess what english speaking ppl uses japanese looking IGNs. ANd its their freedom if they want to join KQ or not... if they can understand item descriptions they do understand English to some level, or else they will be playing on the Chinese server. And not caring about ppl like me? I dont care if you care about me or not.. but right now there are alot of ppl like me in China, im not the only one.. how about them.

I dont wanna argue with you because I really don't care.. I'm just saying by even starting to mention that you will be happier without Chinese ppl in the game is racist.

CursedMagus 11-01-2007 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_Vermillion (Post 35285)
LOL.... for the second post I am only saying things I see on TV and history textbooks... and the first post is based on Experience and I even give sufficent example to stand my point. therefore not exactly racist. After veiwing through my Screenshots.. yes I agree there are Chinese Gold Sellers... but there are still alot more nonChinese ones...

"I'm also tired of their elitist attitudes. Then again, I hate anyone who acts that way. If you can't speak English or at least understand it, then don't join a Kingdom Quest. You're probably just going to ruin it for the rest of us. I've even had to save an entire Mara KQ because some moron decided she wanted to rush and others followed suit and died. I'm not sure if she was Chinese but her name sure seemed like it. No, no I will not think about people like you. If you can't read or understand Chinese well then start studying it. Otherwise move out of China."

Umm.... let see..... Ur supposing a noob is chinese because the IGN looks Chinese... guess what english speaking ppl uses japanese looking IGNs. ANd its their freedom if they want to join KQ or not... if they can understand item descriptions they do understand English to some level, or else they will be playing on the Chinese server. And not caring about ppl like me? I dont care if you care about me or not.. but right now there are alot of ppl like me in China, im not the only one.. how about them.

I dont wanna argue with you because I really don't care.. I'm just saying by even starting to mention that you will be happier without Chinese ppl in the game is racist.

But calling them all Caucasian? That is racism right there. We have almost no way of identifying what race they belong to because most of them use stupid names. But most if not all of the gold spammers misspell stuff and use a bit of Engrish. And most English players do not use Engrish unless they're joking around.

You just mixed two different races into one. Since when did Chinese become Japanese? I am not assuming what they are. I know what they are when they don't respond to my messages and use Chinese-esque names. Like a person I saw once who did not understand us at all and only said "......" or "REZ". Thats it, nothing else. Her name was "BurnsEyeXiaNa". I can only assume the last part is Chinese. But I could be completely wrong and if I am, then so be it. But I have seen quite a few Asians who play this game and don't understand a lick of English and end up getting others killed or end up ruining something for the rest of us.

Why would I care about them either? There's probably less than a hundred English speaking people in China that play Fiesta. Thats about .001% of the entire population of the game. You have to sacrifice some to make others happy. If you did not care you would not have continued this conversation. That isn't racist. Thats my opinion. I do not like people who have their own version but don't play it and instead wreak havoc on my game. This game was translated into ENGLISH for ENGLISH speaking players only. If you can speak other languages thats fine, but if you can't speak English then you have no reason to be playing this game. Simple as that.

Jack_Vermillion 11-01-2007 05:38 PM

Soooo... on to something else..... We (as in ppl living in China playing Fiesta) went through google fetched some information... it just happens to be that in order to play you need to change ur IP into non Chinese IP.... ehhhh.... soo they blocked all the Chinese IPs heh? Its not as simple as just that... and my little friend here filed up something interesting: http://www.outspark.com/forums/showt...t=20480&page=7

Yes its long.. but read it, its actually interesting. Hummmm... Wow... i dont know what to say.... I am living in a self contradicting society filled with some messed up politicians...



CursedMagus im not exactly sure why ur flaming me.. I was saying what you said was kinda racist... and your saying I'm racist.. there is a difference... Well if I offend you in anyway... then im sorry... you have our veiw I have mine.. they dont agree with each other.. thats final....



AND GM plzz do something about it.. if you check the Outspark Forum there is a 8 page thread on this issue... thats alot of ppl wanting to play..... i bet the thread will only grow once we reach the weekends.

AznJamesstars123 11-01-2007 06:15 PM

Stop the selfish arguement and get to the point
 
Elist attitude is with all races and not only those that are yellow skined.
Gold spamers spam in fluent english, and so is their websites.
People that mess up in KQ is just lacking experience, it is not because of the color of their skin.

America is a multicolored country housing a variety of skin colors.

Please do not disrespect Martin Luthur King Jr.
He was a great man that battled in the fore front of slavery to free African Americans from humility, degradetion, and abuse.

Though neither of you admit what you've said to be racism. It is.

Lets stop this selfish arguement and get to the point. Thank you.

You could refer to my thread in the FiestaFan General Section which provides enough and sufficient articles and information that may be the cause of the 403 error occuring in China.

.o0O0O0o. 11-01-2007 06:18 PM

"Clean up on aisle four, please!" o.O

AznJamesstars123 11-01-2007 06:18 PM

Lol
 
LOL Jack it is you!!! i rec that sig newhere. Haha. nice to see you on the Fiesta Fan Forums.

Hessah 11-01-2007 11:11 PM

Okaaaay.... too much not worth reading there...

There was a whole debate few weeks ago saying that banning China IP will stop spammers...

So.. can anyone tell me if the Spammers hv vanished? coz as far as i can tell from my brief appearance on Fiesta this morning... spammers are still around... (MWAHAH i can go back to MageReq and poke him saying his solution didnt work)

And dont get me wrong, I didnt agree banning china IP to be a good solution... i guess all we can do is wait for an announcement from GM and see if it's an error or intentional block.

I wonder if you can "apply" with the GM to unblock the IP for ppl like Jack.

AznJamesstars123 11-02-2007 01:01 AM

Apply to unblock?
 
Applying to unblock does not seem the be to the GM's best interest as then he would have millions of letters from players that he has to sort out one by one.


I think for future reference and to stop Spammers a more detailed Application should be implemented.


And to just allow the Chinese IP users.

.o0O0O0o. 11-02-2007 01:03 AM

just saw some spammage in roumen, so not all gold spammers are from china.

Hessah 11-02-2007 01:15 AM

-goes find MagesReq and poke up-

i hvnt seen him for a while...

.o0O0O0o. 11-02-2007 01:19 AM

-whipsers to Hessah- He had a facelift, he still post :)

AznJamesstars123 11-02-2007 01:34 AM

It is official
 
It is official. The Chinese IP Addresses have been baned.

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showt...t=20480&page=9

But there is still a way to bypass the IP Adress ban I think.

Looking forward to finding how and meeting with you all in Isya. ^.^

Hessah 11-02-2007 01:52 AM

Ah... well... i really dont think Outspark should be called "bias, racist, discriminate" etc etc

they're not doing it coz they dont like the chinese... they just did it coz china has their own server to go to.. its like.. i've got my own pencil.. i shouldnt be using someone else's pencil just coz it looks better... and its out of my reach...

i'll share my pencil if someone else doesnt hv one... but if they've got one too they should use their own...

Unfortunately for people like jack.. they may hv to switch to using a pen... =(

Zotius 11-02-2007 02:00 AM

Erm... Singapore is an Asian country right? So they'll block our IPs sooner or later as well?

Hessah 11-02-2007 02:07 AM

yeah they'll probably block us when they hv a South East Asia (SEA) server?!

(Well, lets hope that they'll only block us when they've got a server for us!!!)

maybe the China Residents should be happy that they blocked them before they charged up too much SparkCash....

I just to play this other game where they block the NA (NOrth America) players from the the SEA server only after they launched a server for them...

AznJamesstars123 11-02-2007 02:29 AM

From what I learned
 
From what I have learned from my fiends that know enough chinese to play on the SEA/China servers of Fiesta is that those servers are and have~

SparkCash shop a long time ago where everything now costs money
Monsters give only 1 exp after kills
You can only get T2 Hp pots from KQ.
Rare or good items must be brought by the SparkCash shop
Most or ALL users use bots.
All users have Bosses Items such as ZKs, KM, GGK to +9 and all armors to +9
Items below +9 are considered to be worthless

Who would want to play on such a messed up unbalanced server?

CursedMagus 11-02-2007 03:40 AM

*Headdesk*

I refuse to reply to previous messages directed toward me due to certain things I wish to not say.

Anyways, wouldn't it be against the ToS to go around the IP ban?

Rightclaw 11-02-2007 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AznJamesstars123 (Post 35470)
From what I have learned from my fiends that know enough chinese to play on the SEA/China servers of Fiesta is that those servers are and have~

SparkCash shop a long time ago where everything now costs money
Monsters give only 1 exp after kills
You can only get T2 Hp pots from KQ.
Rare or good items must be brought by the SparkCash shop
Most or ALL users use bots.
All users have Bosses Items such as ZKs, KM, GGK to +9 and all armors to +9
Items below +9 are considered to be worthless

Who would want to play on such a messed up unbalanced server?

That sounds oddly like bullcrap, IMO.

CursedMagus 11-02-2007 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rightclaw (Post 35516)
That sounds oddly like bullcrap, IMO.

That is exactly what i'm thinking.

Hessah 11-02-2007 04:25 AM

that's one successful game if they still hv ppl paying them with such a bad community =/

no no.. my point is.. no one would be playing it if its that bad right?

i betcha he exaggerated and we wouldnt hv anything to prove that he's exaggerating...

AznJamesstars123 11-02-2007 04:57 AM

Why would I bother?
 
Why would I bother lying to you?

Yea... people started to stop playing, I guess the chinese IPs have been banned to promote the China Server and to get the chinese people playing on the American servers to move there. They even provided a nice friendly link for us... >.<

And yea, china is a big market, especially when now MMORPGs are considered to be almost a part of everyone's everyday lifestyle. How weird eh? But please remember the Eastern countries such as, Korea, Japan, Taiwan, China make up a lot of the MMORPGs and has a huge chunk of the market.

The 1 Exp thing is due to everyone playing with bots. But you could still buy experience, which I found is an utter disgrace to players playing the game.

But the chinese thought on this is, "Why waste time leveling when you could level with a bot and have fun killing other people?"


Hehe I should really grow up to be a journalist.

Hyper 11-02-2007 05:38 AM

Woo hoo! Less gold spammers! This is what the Chinese get for making it very hard/not possible for us to play their game! Plus no more annoying symbols in the KQs, that they just have to keep in normal chat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_Vermillion (Post 35273)
By the way.... Gold Spammers are in fact mostly Caucasians... i wont say they are Americans because im not sure... but they are not CHinese for sure.. the reason is mainly because if you play any free MMORPG that is on a CHinese server you will not find ONE gold spammer.. and they tend to have very respectful communities as well.

1. Do research before posting. They ARE Chinese. Nearly all of them. They admit it, too. The spamming, farming, and delivery is a JOB, in which they are paid for. Just because you speak english doesn't mean you're most likely white. You'd be amazed at how many people there speak English.

*might be touchy subject*
2. Not really trying to be offensive to you, but I'm prejudice at somethings. Namely evangelcals. I don't dislike all Christians (I come from a 80-90% Christian family), just the ones that wave Jesus in the faces of all. A game forum is the last damn place I want to have more Jesus thrown at me after a day at a Cristian school. Christian and proud? Good for you, but most of the rest of us don't want to know.

Zotius 11-02-2007 05:40 AM

Yea maybe you should... Well who will be with me if they make us go to a SEA server? Oh and I think MapleSEA block out NA IP after they launched a server and now they're only letting accounts which have been created before the block to continue playing.

Blaaaaaaaah 11-02-2007 05:40 AM

Hyperswoss, I'm going to edit the last bit of your post out. Like you said, it's a touchy topic and people will get offended easily. Everyone have their own beliefs, so let's just keep that topic out of this thread now...

Hessah 11-02-2007 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zotius (Post 35717)
Yea maybe you should... Well who will be with me if they make us go to a SEA server? Oh and I think MapleSEA block out NA IP after they launched a server and now they're only letting accounts which have been created before the block to continue playing.

That's the game i'm talking about.. except i was playing AuditionSEA....

Zotius 11-02-2007 05:44 AM

o.0 I dun like audition. O2Jam's much better. So who will be if me if they make a SEA server?

Hessah 11-02-2007 05:44 AM

i'll think about it IF they make a SEA server...


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