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MikeyG 08-09-2009 08:18 PM

bama Speech Police Shutdown Top You Tube Videos
 

A_Forever 08-09-2009 08:24 PM

Mehh. Alex jones.. I like his gear(Shirts).. I just.. he's too.. asdfghjkl;

Hraesvelg 08-09-2009 11:23 PM

I wouldn't trust Alex Jones to tell me if the sky is blue. He's got as much credibility as ol' Jim, the guy that wanders around downtown telling me about the Seatle Space Needle is a CIA mind-control transmission tower.

I mean, sure, you can go on a crusade in this country, but go on a crusade against reality and someone is going to call you on it.

Fighterboy 08-09-2009 11:45 PM

Too long i see obama yay.

MikeyG 08-09-2009 11:59 PM

gtfo

Rightclaw 08-10-2009 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyG (Post 369411)
gtfo

That's not very nice. :(

It looks like YouTube is only censoring Alex Jones videos. Probably because of his crazy lies and his wild ass conspiracy theories. FYI, I don't actually support Obama because he:
  • Thinks you can spend your way out of debt
  • Wants to railroad a massive new health care plan through Congress without any bi-partisan support or with any support of the American people
  • Thinks the protestors at town hall meetings are actually planted by the Republican party (because apparently NO ONE opposes the Obamassiah, right?)
  • Wants to use citizen informats to report "fishy" health care emails to the White House

MikeyG 08-10-2009 12:20 AM

#1 Obama can do what he does, as I'm not american.. though it might affect canada.
#2 This guy could be an outright lier etc, but he should still be entitled to his freedom of speech.

Rightclaw 08-10-2009 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyG (Post 369424)
#2 This guy could be an outright lier etc, but he should still be entitled to his freedom of speech.

I agree, even though I think Alex Jones is a nutjob. :D

MikeyG 08-10-2009 12:24 AM

lol he probably, i've never heard of him until today and this is his only video i've ever watched, though he has his right to his nutty opinion.

Jikanu 08-10-2009 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rightclaw (Post 369423)
That's not very nice. :(

It looks like YouTube is only censoring Alex Jones videos. Probably because of his crazy lies and his wild ass conspiracy theories. FYI, I don't actually support Obama because he:
  • Thinks you can spend your way out of debt
  • Wants to railroad a massive new health care plan through Congress without any bi-partisan support or with any support of the American people
  • Thinks the protestors at town hall meetings are actually planted by the Republican party (because apparently NO ONE opposes the Obamassiah, right?)
  • Wants to use citizen informats to report "fishy" health care emails to the White House

Im not with obama either, but one of your points is invalid.

The majority of the american people WANT the new healthcare plan. Whether or not they're making an educated decision is another point, but the majority ARE supporting it.

Personally, im an Anarcho-socialist. But this isnt the kind of economy in which we should be doing this kind of thing. as soon as we get some more cash, we should DEFINITELY do it, (The Military gets it, and it works excellently there), but not till then.

MikeyG 08-10-2009 12:49 AM

You guys should have the same healthcare as we do here in canada.

Rightclaw 08-10-2009 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 369437)
Im not with obama either, but one of your points is invalid.

The majority of the american people WANT the new healthcare plan. Whether or not they're making an educated decision is another point, but the majority ARE supporting it.

Personally, im an Anarcho-socialist. But this isnt the kind of economy in which we should be doing this kind of thing. as soon as we get some more cash, we should DEFINITELY do it, (The Military gets it, and it works excellently there), but not till then.

The majority used to support it, but now the majority oppose it:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124890178435291341.html

This was the most recent poll I found. A lot of the earlier polls suggest that people were in support of the new health care bill, but I guess you can only lie so much before people decide to wisen up. Anyway, why would someone continually want to push a bill that most people are clearly not in support of? Not only that, but every time he is asked about the bill he never states the pros of it, instead he resorts to more republican/Bush bashing. We get it - Bush was a terrible president, but I don't want to know of his past failures, I want to know what you are going to do with our future.

Also, I was watching Huckabee earlier and some lady sent in email that was saying the new healthcare plan, no matter when it was approved, would only go into effect after he leaves office in 2013. Not sure if that's true, but why would he want to do it now without any debate when in 3 years he can have a much more thought out plan?

So basically we have this guy who thinks he knows what's best for us even though the majority oppose it. I want a President, not a father.

A_Forever 08-10-2009 02:20 AM

Holy shit. Is Righty actually being.. serious here? Is Righty actually.. omgg.. /shocked

Jikanu 08-10-2009 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rightclaw (Post 369468)
The majority used to support it, but now the majority oppose it:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124890178435291341.html

This was the most recent poll I found. A lot of the earlier polls suggest that people were in support of the new health care bill, but I guess you can only lie so much before people decide to wisen up. Anyway, why would someone continually want to push a bill that most people are clearly not in support of? Not only that, but every time he is asked about the bill he never states the pros of it, instead he resorts to more republican/Bush bashing. We get it - Bush was a terrible president, but I don't want to know of his past failures, I want to know what you are going to do with our future.

Also, I was watching Huckabee earlier and some lady sent in email that was saying the new healthcare plan, no matter when it was approved, would only go into effect after he leaves office in 2013. Not sure if that's true, but why would he want to do it now without any debate when in 3 years he can have a much more thought out plan?

So basically we have this guy who thinks he knows what's best for us even though the majority oppose it. I want a President, not a father.

Nice way of putting it... however, sadly, the political system works so we elect someone and then get no voice in the matter. they're SUPPOSED To be a reflection of what we want, according to our foundation, but the last 9 years, (And i suspect 12 years by the end of the term), And perhaps since the 60's, even, that hasnt been true.

Hraesvelg 08-10-2009 05:50 AM

I just watched the video. Just a quick question, is YouTube owned by the Federal Government? I can't recall that taking place.

The First Amendment covers repression of free speech BY THE GOVERNMENT. Period. YouTube is a private company. They are beholden to their shareholders or owners, depending on the type of structure. If they wanted to shut down a channel for any reason at all, they can. Hell, if they wanted to only post videos by white people, they could. They are not an arm of the government.

And before someone throws it out, the Civil Rights Act doesn't cover the internet as far as "public accommodations" are concerned.

Rightclaw 08-10-2009 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hraesvelg (Post 369622)
I just watched the video. Just a quick question, is YouTube owned by the Federal Government? I can't recall that taking place.

The First Amendment covers repression of free speech BY THE GOVERNMENT. Period. YouTube is a private company. They are beholden to their shareholders or owners, depending on the type of structure. If they wanted to shut down a channel for any reason at all, they can. Hell, if they wanted to only post videos by white people, they could. They are not an arm of the government.

And before someone throws it out, the Civil Rights Act doesn't cover the internet as far as "public accommodations" are concerned.

Good point.


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