Mages... Most Expensive Class?
 

I've found it very hard to earn money...
I'm in my mid level 20's and when i grind and farm i usually use 1 hp stone for 2-3 kills or maybe more if i get mobbed. and maybe 1 sp stone per kill..
and it costs like 2-4s to restock up fully. (depends if i die or not with stones left or none)
but yeah... i've been vending, doing kingdom quests, doing the normal stuff and i find it hard for mages (well me) to be able to aford skills and other stuff we need... (and yes i do hit and run, and use scrolls). i can't make pots either cos i have stone and scroll production

any thoughts, or helpful info? let me know!
-thanks

It is very difficult to earn and save money as a Mage from levels 1 - 30/40ish. Most will constantly find themselves spending nearly every bit of cash they earn on their new spells and equipment as they level up. My advice is to solo a lot and do your best not to use HP/SP stones. This can save you a ton a money. Just take a little time to rest and use any potions that you may have if necessary. Once you get into the 30s, drops start getting much better and you'll find it a lot easier to save cash.

- Amorphous
51 Mage
Teva

I found that my fighter was more expensive than my mage, and my cleric the cheapest of all. Fighters and mages use a lot of money on pots and stones, while clerics do not. The one thing I can say is sell everything except the bare nessecities. When ever you get a silver, put it into your storage and dont touch it. Keep doing that and by process of working with waht you have at level 20 you get 20-25 silver. At least I did anyway.

to me , is either fighter or archer that is the most expensive to me.

Everyone says cleric is the cheapest but I'm having sooooo much financial problems with my cleric. T___________T" Something isn't right!

Anyway. You could also try partying up so you don't have to use your HP stones and have a cleric heal you. Just make sure you set drops to sequential allocation so you get a share too. o:

I made 30silver by level 15 on my mage, mainly cause i just did production skills for ages so if anything go with them :D you can usually buy mats for the right price to still make a profit on the product. Also just wait till you go to buy then lvl 30 skills then you cry! Like me ='(

i'm sorry, but where do you play that fighters dont use many hp or sp stones?

lets think about it. no matter what, the fighter's taking damage, so he HAS to use HP stones, no two ways around it. even if you try to farm green monsters, you'll have to stone at least occasionally.

now a fighter can attempt to use fewer HP stones by skill spamming, but they naturally have such low SP stocks that they will end up munching through all their SP stones too.

Either way, no matter how you look at it, a fighter will always be using HP stones (which are ungodly expensive for fighters) and most of the time will be using SP stones too.

Now i never played as a mage, but general consensus from what i've heard on here and the outspark forums is that fighters are far and away the most expensive class.

I have gotten all classes up to at least level 20, some more than once. Now, it's not a lot to some people, but it's enough to learn the class enough to give opinions.

This is how I would rate(highest spending to lowest) of the classes:

-Fighters
-Mages
-Archers
-Clerics

I really don't see how this can be disputed, unless you have a lot of patience and like to sit in your house and farm green/grey monsters.

its not that bad, i rest after every two monsters and while im resting i do a couple of hw problems or browse the internet xD

i only use stones for emergencies

but yes i cry when i buy skills >_<

Hmm, I think that mages are the most-expensive, next to fighters. But yeah, clerics are at bottom.

I really don't see how mages are expensive at all..

just to clarify... although clerics MAY be the cheapest class to run... it doesnt mean we're rich...

And i do suck up a lot of SP when in a party.. just as much as any other class.. and dont tell me at least i dont hv to use HP stones.. coz when i'm in the party.. no one has to use HP stones... (except in the rare occasion of when we get mobbed...)

that is all.

It costs a lot to grind.

Grinding is where you are fighting monsters non-stop* to gain as much exp as fast as possible.

*excluding time needed to re-buy stones, sell/bank loot, and make/buy potions.

Why hello thar Gunzfactorian.

To be on topic: Yes, a cleric is ultimately cheaper than any other class. However, mages are not necessarily the most expensive. A solo fighter burns a lot of stones too, and their SP stones recover a significantly lower amount of SP, due to their inherently low SP pool to begin with.

Well, I have to say, the way I've been playing my baby archer (lvl 21 in 2 days lol)...It's right up there, and definitely not 2nd to Cleric in "cheapest" class.

I'm going through potions and stones like water. It's mostly due to the style of play I have chosen, which is spamming skills, non-stop grinding, only waiting for the next KQ. I've also been fighting high yellows, which is generally a no-no for archers. (Mobs +2 levels. Yellow = +/- 2 levels)

The exp rate is great. I'm flying through the teens and starting on the 20's, MUCH faster than I did with my Cleric. The only reason, though, is because I have my Cleric to support my ridiculous potion habit. :lol:

If I were playing properly, and killing mobs at my level or 2 levels lower (still yellow) I suppose I'd be using half of the potions/stones that I am now, if not less than half. This would put me in the same range as mages, I figure.

All this fun will end abruptly for me once I get into Moonlight Tomb and start getting smacked for 150 a pop. ;)

Hey, I didn't have any financial problems until level 20 n stuff. I just pick up all the drops and loot other people as much as I can, I know its noobish, but hey, I only played for a week and still cant figure out how to use stone and potion production.

At first, I didn't understand the production skills, but I chose Potions and Scrolls (just based off other MMORPGs I've played), and they have been fantastic.

Generally, when I grind, I'll grind lower-level mobs that drop the materials required for Potions or Scroll-making. In general, it's doing three things: Giving me exp (although not the best I can get), keeping me from using HP/SP stones/potions as much (since I can just House-n-rest), and it gives me what I need to produce stuff to sell.

Under most circumstances, I don't get enough materials to make a really large amount of stuff. Usually, it just puts me at like 20~ in each stack. From there, I split them into 3 stacks and open shop and just buy materials (overnight or duing the day while I'm in class) for the lowest-going rate. I've found that even though there are guys buying for 10-15c more than you, you'll eventually buy enough at your price.

Afterward, I mix-master my materials into merchandise, then open up shop and sell everything. Scrolls go from around 100-150c (I don't gouge prices to like 175-200 on everything Tier 1 (>.<!) For potions, generally around 20-25c.

Recently, I've stopped selling potions because they aren't as profitable compared to scrolls. Instead, I spend my time just collecting scroll materials and selling scrolls. I've had my mage up for two weeks now and I've spent at least 100s worth of stuff between him and my Cleric, and I've got 20s on each char, with 50s in Storage. I've been doing really well, but I just spend a lot of time with my shop open either buying materials or selling merchandise (saving some for myself of course.)

Then, I'll spend a few hours and grind out the next level or two, then go back to a few days of making money. So far, I've done really well in two weeks. Mage is level 25 and I've got loads of cash.

@Making Money: You just need to learn the rates of materials costs (low end) and the prices people charge. Undercut buying prices and selling prices and you're guaranteed to not have stuff left over when buying or selling (and if you do the math, you'll still make 50% profit. That's my profit margin, or I won't sell it cheaper.)

EDIT: @Clerics being the cheapest: They are. When I started my Cleric, I took 3s out of storage. I did the "farming" method with him up to level 15 (for my Mages scroll and potion production skills) instead of selling those Mats (to players or NPCs.) Even so, I took the cleric to lvl 15 in one day AND he has the best gear I could really find (my asking and searching stores.)

Clerics are just cheap. Even grinding, I only burn SP stones/potions, not HP. I just sit and rest if I'm too low on SP really. Time is your friend... don't go crazy burning your Stones/Pots to level. For one thing, Fiesta's resting is the best regen on HP/SP in any MMORPG. it's at a rediculous rate.

it gets easier to make money when the mobs start dropping higher class material, u can npc them and make a reasonable profit after restocking on stones

I must say.. this class has got to be the cheapest class lol.
I've got over 1g now, and in 3 days, just from loot, I can get about 300s. I find it useless buying the new skills, since all I use is MM1, FB1, and magic blast.

Do you mean Fire Bolt or Fire Ball?

*sigh* @Whoever thought Archers were expensive.

Archers are cheapest, no matter what anyone thinks. Do the math.

Clerics are, by far, the most expensive.

Mages are pretty close, because they have to buy skills to fight.

Fighters are expensive if you take the tank route, especially when the shield gets to be like 400s.

After lvl 60, Fighters are the most expensive by a loooong shot. At level 60, they will have over 200s in skills over the other classes. Approximately 420s, and the rest are like 200s-ish.

It's not a matter of how much a class can cost. It's a matter of how FAST you can earn silvers to pay for the skills.

Doesn't it depend on your build? My all spr cleric has quite low hp, so I need to use a lot of HP stones + pots. Also, the sp cost of heal is quite high and the constant healing I need to do to heal the tank is quite high, so It requires a lot of money :(.

For me mage is the cheapest and cleric is the most expensive.... Keeping cleric skills up to date is a must if I want to do well in keeping party alive, but as a mage all I really need is firebolt in lower levels (and I grind so fast soloing or in party the drops simply make me way more money than the rate in which I spend them).

Here's the thing. If you know how to make money, then it shouldn't matter what class you are. I make scrolls. Lots and lots of scrolls, I buy the materials cheap and sell my scrolls cheap. They sell fast, I don't make a HUGE profit, but enough to put some in storage and turn around and buy more materials to make more. If I sell them cheap, then they go fast, which leaves more time to do other things.

what i figure for cost is dependent on builds
 

Efficiency ftw
 

Grinding is not about killing as fast as possible. Real grinding is killing as fast as possible while being as efficientas possible.

lvl 1-25 you need to do nothing more then spam lvl 1 MM to grind quite successfully.

lvl 25+ I've found I've needed to add a bigger nuke to start. I use 2 combo's:
1. Max lvl Firebolt then spam lvl 1 MM till monster is dead.
2. While firebolt's CD is going I'll use a max lvl Icebolt then spam lvl 1 MM till monster is dead.
3. Rinse and repeat.

1a. Harder mobs w/ higher hp I do Icebolt -> Firebolt -> spam lvl 1 MM

If I get a crit I won't take any dmg at all. If I don't then I may take 1 or 2 hits, so I do use a hp pot every 2-4 mobs(Make your own!!). However, I only use SP pots in an emergency. When I'm out of sp I rest. It usually takes at least 20 mobs to run out of sp.


Thunderbolt is worthless. Lifetap is worthless. mana burn and purge are worthless unless you pvp. MM over lvl 1 is useless. So, as far as skills go keep firebolt and magic burst maxed also buy dispel. That's a ton of saved $ and I don't think any other class can boast that.

One more note. I realize this is a free game, but for $5 every 90 days you can equip your character with an extraordinarily better mini house that makes resting much less of a pain. Com'on now, Fiesta's made a pretty decent lil game here. There shouldn't be much hesitation to supporting(in however small way) it financially. Don't they even have SC cards that can be bought in grocery/Rx stores for those w/o access to a credit card? Thought I read that.

I think archers are more expensive personally...but then again I've only gotten a mage to lvl 25 before deleting him.

Archers? LMAO we lack skills baaaaaaaaaaaaad... >_< -drools on Entangle-

Well, it's not like mages need to buy spells past lvl 1. Only the occasional Magic Burst. And then at lvl 47/49, they need to buy Magic Blast. Till then...pretty cheap I'll say...

Good point... Thou I still can't envy the mages for their efficient number of skills.

I just want our entangle..and our crit rate buff and our evasion buff and our invincible and our___and our___and also our___

I wonder what levels these skills would be then... I'd expect 60+ or lower.

Probably in the 50's
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But I agree Mages not cheap....Archers get 89/85 HP/SP Stones at 56 for goodness sake! We waist so much SP on skills 300 SP to cast 5 of my skills not counting aoe skills....

Zwivix, I am now 58 and the stone capacity still hasn't changed...

89|85

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mage equipement....way too much competition =/ i'm lucky i found almost all my equips thou =P