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Jikanu 05-30-2009 07:57 PM

Fitter... Happier...
 

THIS is the voice of big brother.

Belaslav 05-30-2009 08:10 PM

Hmm, professional propagada. Don't see a lot of that these days.

Jikanu 05-30-2009 08:18 PM

How's it professional propaganda? it's just describing how trying to be perfect covers up the human side in people. It's meant to be sarcastic.

Belaslav 05-30-2009 10:26 PM

The beginning of the video is done with style similar to propaganda commercials. As for the ending... Well, we still have hope right?

Jikanu 05-30-2009 10:38 PM

I was focusing more on the song than the video... but acctually, i severely doubt that there's too much hope left. at least, in this system.

Fighterboy 05-30-2009 10:54 PM

So many things :O

Dynamics 05-30-2009 11:02 PM

I don't think the video talks about the system much, there's only so many things that you can blame on society, if anything. It's more to do with self-fulfillment vs self-fulfilling prophecy.

Jikanu 05-30-2009 11:06 PM

But society demands perfection from us, and therefore tries to make us into robots. When someone strives to be perfect, they lose humanity.

Dynamics 05-30-2009 11:18 PM

Society doesn't demand anything from you. This pressure you're feeling is your own need for fulfillment. Many people lose themselves as they try to fulfill their lives, because they have misconceptions of what makes them happy. For example, a man feels getting fitter will make him happy, but when he reaches his ideal fitness level - he still isn't happy.

Jikanu 05-30-2009 11:34 PM

Society Pushes on to us that such and such is the status quo- that girls need to look like they do on the magazines; that boys need to be strong; the media, which is the basis of society, pushes all these things on us.

Dynamics 05-30-2009 11:41 PM

I know this detracts from civilized debating, but I have to say it. Don't be such a damned tool.

Jikanu 05-30-2009 11:49 PM

It would be civilized if you explained why you thought that, instead of just randomly insulting me without pointing out the basis of your claim.

It's the truth; the media is bullshit. they shove their garbage down our necks, saying that this actress is fat because she's above 100 pounds, and that anyone who does this this and this is a geek. It's the truth. You dont have to follow it, but that's why many people do.

Vasu 05-31-2009 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 343113)
It would be civilized if you explained why you thought that, instead of just randomly insulting me without pointing out the basis of your claim.

It's the truth; the media is bullshit. they shove their garbage down our necks, saying that this actress is fat because she's above 100 pounds, and that anyone who does this this and this is a geek. It's the truth. You dont have to follow it, but that's why many people do.


There you go, what're you so angry about now?

Jikanu 05-31-2009 05:51 AM

The fact that many people in society are blind to the subtle manipulations. And the standards are getting ever higher....

Ivramire 05-31-2009 06:32 AM

I don't think it's exactly subtle though.


Pretty sure people know what they're getting into and that any and all expectations are unrealistic.

Vasu 05-31-2009 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 343290)
The fact that many people in society are blind to the subtle manipulations. And the standards are getting ever higher....

That's their problem. Try to convince people who are close to you otherwise, and have fun.


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