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Hessah 05-29-2009 10:24 AM

Stupid leechers
 
Why are there still so many leechers in KKP

If you join a KQ then PLAY IT

relogging and hiding your name doesnt mean its OK

We're not here to play the game for you

They need to spawn a marlone at spawn point after mara is killed

ThievingSix 05-29-2009 12:42 PM

I haven't noticed many until Robo. Same crap there, we had 6 people leech last time. If only people wouldn't abuse a KQ kick function....

Blaaaaaaaah 05-29-2009 12:47 PM

I've never had much experience with leechers in KQs until KKP. I got the occasional leechers here and there in the lower level KQs, but KKP was where the real deal started. :hulksmash:

ThievingSix 05-29-2009 01:23 PM

I suspect by that level some people have lost their patience with the game. So for some easy exp they can just leech a KQ that always wins(Im assuming thats how it goes?).

Patches 05-29-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ThievingSix (Post 342533)
I haven't noticed many until Robo. Same crap there, we had 6 people leech last time. If only people wouldn't abuse a KQ kick function....

QFT I would love to see a feature where you could kick people from a KQ but as you said, it would probably be abused. They could make it automatic and controled by the system. If you didn't help the KQ in any way, you get no reward IDK. Then I guess people would do just enough to get the reward.

ThievingSix 05-29-2009 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Patches (Post 342550)
QFT I would love to see a feature where you could kick people from a KQ but as you said, it would probably be abused. They could make it automatic and controled by the system. If you didn't help the KQ in any way, you get no reward IDK. Then I guess people would do just enough to get the reward.

Its OS, if they do do something like this it will be in a way that we would get more pissed off about. I still think that the way you performed(according to your class) should decide the prizes you get.

Sero 05-29-2009 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 342510)
They need to spawn a marlone at spawn point after mara is killed

LOL

And sorry Hessah, I'm just that lazy =<

Hraesvelg 05-29-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ThievingSix (Post 342576)
Its OS, if they do do something like this it will be in a way that we would get more pissed off about. I still think that the way you performed(according to your class) should decide the prizes you get.

Performance is a very nebulous concept to try to code. On what criteria would you base an assessment? Would the other KQ participants have input?

Isuma 05-29-2009 05:25 PM

Lmao, I remember a few times we ran mobs back to the spawn point then a few of us got reported by the leechers of all people xD Some 24 hour suspensions here and there but right after I got back we'd create a little guild and cause some disturbance >_>

ThievingSix 05-29-2009 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hraesvelg (Post 342597)
Performance is a very nebulous concept to try to code. On what criteria would you base an assessment? Would the other KQ participants have input?

Probably damage done in a ratio with your level. And clerics maybe HP healed in a ratio to your level. Just an idea, you could probably put a lot of thought and effort into it.

Zwivix 05-29-2009 10:08 PM

This is why 9x KQ is the best. The whole reason people join is to get xp from the spawns. You can get a max of 5% from actually doing the KQ and almost nothing for reward.

Better of all the final boss must be kited to the initial spawn point as it spawns lv100 mobs. Lol no way to leech it.

Hessah 05-29-2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Isuma (Post 342599)
Lmao, I remember a few times we ran mobs back to the spawn point then a few of us got reported by the leechers of all people xD Some 24 hour suspensions here and there but right after I got back we'd create a little guild and cause some disturbance >_>

What?! Got got banned by the leechers? Are you serious! I know someone that tried to pull mobs to kill the leechers but Mara died before they could get rid of the hearts of the leechers so it didnt help..

Shouldnt it be the other way around that you report THEM and THEY get banned?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThievingSix (Post 342602)
Probably damage done in a ratio with your level. And clerics maybe HP healed in a ratio to your level. Just an idea, you could probably put a lot of thought and effort into it.

That would be too hard, leechers generally stay at spawn point so just spawn a marlone there.. maybe programme it to patrol the map! so they cant hide!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zwivix (Post 342657)
This is why 9x KQ is the best. The whole reason people join is to get xp from the spawns. You can get a max of 5% from actually doing the KQ and almost nothing for reward.

Better of all the final boss must be kited to the initial spawn point as it spawns lv100 mobs. Lol no way to leech it.

maybe KKP should be a circled map where we end up fighting KKP where we started.....

PlatnumLitening 06-01-2009 11:08 PM

hehe i think not only a marlone should spawn, cuz sometimes it's strong people who leech. maybe each time a boss is killed, that boss should respawn at the entrance point of the kq... including KKP and Phinofly xD

(ofc this only applies to KKP. haha... would be funny if a KKP and phinofly spawned at the top of like a gold hill kq =P)

_JunShyr_*FTW* 06-02-2009 11:37 PM

Gamigo gained in a patch a anti leech system were you have to kill 10 monsters each kq either solo or in a party, althought it kinda didn't make sense in KKP or MD as you ran past so many mobs and just got boss' it only - about 8 kills :P

Hessah 06-02-2009 11:50 PM

That's an interesting system... at least the leechers have to walk the course...

had a leecher in my party yesterday... he helped play all the mobs until KKP where he shroomed at the back.. someone pulled mara and marlone onto them and MWAHAHAHHA no rewards and exp for him!!!!!!

Blaaaaaaaah 06-03-2009 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _JunShyr_*FTW* (Post 344204)
Gamigo gained in a patch a anti leech system were you have to kill 10 monsters each kq either solo or in a party, althought it kinda didn't make sense in KKP or MD as you ran past so many mobs and just got boss' it only - about 8 kills :P

Hey that's pretty cool.

But what's considered as "kill"? Say if you whacked MD once to do a teeny bit of damage, but didn't do anything after, is that still counted as "kill" or "participating" in killing?

Ronclue 06-05-2009 12:02 AM

What if player "A" was a high lvl cleric in a kq, while cleric "B" was a mid range lvl.
player A would had his heal's cooldown time empowered so he can spam heals. Player A was getting all the heals done
Player B was ****TRYING**** his BEST to get SOmE heals. At the end, Player B gets a crappy reward for trying his BEST?

ThievingSix 06-05-2009 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronclue (Post 345298)
What if player "A" was a high lvl cleric in a kq, while cleric "B" was a mid range lvl.
player A would had his heal's cooldown time empowered so he can spam heals. Player A was getting all the heals done
Player B was ****TRYING**** his BEST to get SOmE heals. At the end, Player B gets a crappy reward for trying his BEST?

Like I said it should be done in a ratio to your level.

aramil001 06-05-2009 02:31 PM

I geuss it some thing along the strongest wins.

Yasumi 06-11-2009 09:43 AM

A long rant, but I realy HATE leechers
 
I like Hessa's suggestion: "They need to spawn a marlone at spawn point after mara is killed" But then leechers would come to expect it and just move to a "safe" leech spot shortly after zoneing in.

I've been lucky in KKP so far, haven't noticed any leechers. Except maybe the occasional auto follower, but even those I've noticed seem to "wake up" and help at most fights. It is understandable that sometimes people need to go to the bathroom or answer the phone, etc during a KQ. Doesn't bother me if it's for a short time usually.

I remember one guy in MD KQ I noticed following my archer. So I ran in close to MD and back out to put him just inside it's aoe radius when he didn't respond to my wisper after a couple min. (^_^)

I also have a couple low level alts. (now with accademies even play my other accounts storage and vendor alts to get my guild a buff) I have noticed a rash of leeching in king slime, mara and gold hill these days. The first 2 I hate to do much about them because then I'm not helping the group much either. But in gold hill I often stick around and lead things to kill them. Many people aren't aware that the key can be found in ANY ore. So I mine away at the leftover ores at the start and first level for a bit to make sure the leeches stay dead. I have seen some that must have checed their status and moved when they saw the monster next to them, then went back AFK because leading another to where they moved killed them easily. So far no one has treatened to ban me for it, although 1 person got mad at me once and said "I saw what you did, you'd better hope I never catch you in PVP."
She must have heard the monster beating on her as she killed it and moved. But she didn't show up to fight the boss either. Just yelled at me in wisper a bit. (if yelling in wisper is possible (^_^) ) Till I told her to stop leeching and she'd live longer.

Sorry for the long rant, but leechers really bug me. If I see blatent leeching I often write their name down. @ times and they get added to my s--t list of people I try to avoid, kick first from parties in favor of someone else or do not heal or buff. And as my cleric has been doing a lot of Robo KQ's lately I see some of those leeches on my list from Mara nd Gold hill these days. Guess who gets passed by a lot for rev's during the run? (^_^) Even had one of them, a cleric, get all upset with me for reving a mage next to him. He was still dead at the end of KQ and continued ranting at me till I blocked him. (maybe even after)

Hessah 06-11-2009 10:12 AM

WOOW sounds like you've got some nice revenge there!!

I alsolutely hate people on follow leech, I reckon they've even worse than those standing at the beginning... I get really paranoid about people going afk for more than a few mins... people that follows the party and just shroom and straight down annoying!

I still boot people out of the party even if they say brb (and they didnt come back for 2-3 bosses)

Did u get to tell that dead cleric why they were not reved first?

Yasumi 06-11-2009 11:11 AM

No, never got around to telling him, way too busy during KQ and after I doubt he'd have listened anyway. I have seen him a couple times since in Robo KQ's and he seems to spend much of the beggining fights shroomed as well. Don't even know if he remembers me. Although I did get kicked once almost immediatly after joining a party one time. Might have been him? Didn't have time to see party names as at the start. Busy looking for people needing healing or a quick invunerable to save them.

I'm sure I'm not the only one noticing peoples bad behavior and keeping track of some of them. They'll reap what they sow in time.

Manzcar 06-11-2009 11:57 AM

Hessah can i leech with you? I don't have much time to play lately. I could just log in and follow you around why you killed stuff?

LOL

Kinnetik_ishisu 07-01-2009 07:31 PM

Yeah, although my quest are still lvl 3X, I have seen a lot of leeches. I remember one mage calle A$$kiker or something ( not his accurate name cause I can't remember well); we were all suffering and mining while he was just waiting for someone to find the key that opened the door to the next stage. I told the party leader and she banned him from the party, but he does things like that every time I find him in a quest.

lalasparke 07-01-2009 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 342510)
Why are there still so many leechers in KKP

If you join a KQ then PLAY IT

relogging and hiding your name doesnt mean its OK

We're not here to play the game for you

They need to spawn a marlone at spawn point after mara is killed

yes i get it i hate when they leech you die fighting while they just stand there ! >.<

DeathMagnetic 07-01-2009 08:23 PM

Less QQ.
Ummm.. More Pew Pew?


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