Pvp mage Final Lesson
 

Okay, am going to make this short an simple. because from all the forums i have seen, no one has statted this.

I am a mage from EU fiesta, i wont mention my name because friends will shoot me for sharing this.

Upon all forum builds i hear things like..

Empowerments: 5cooldown magic missle
5power magic blast
5power fireball
5cooldown & 5power frost nova
5cooldown inferno
5 duration fear

They change from time to time.. but this is the general thing u hear...
Am sorry.. but this is honestly a flaud build, when it comes to Pvp.

The only mage who has made points that i can relate to would be EdwardWarlock . But even that is based on how to fight. not what skills to empower.

I see many threads, talk about mages being under powered. or worse on Outspark forum.. how fighters wipe the floor with us.. This is honestly BS.

The thing i have noticed about a mage is.. the difference between pvp and pve build. = one skill reset scroll. i will tell you the empowerments that really should be done.

Sanastra's Empowerments.

Fear: 5cooldown / 5 duration

Fear is a defensive spell.. it is not the spell u start the fight with. its the spell u use to buy time and recover.

Stifle: 5 cooldown / 5 duration

If you do this to stifle. whoever ur fighting only has 24 seconds inwhich they can kill you before being stifled again.. if you learn the timing of this spell. and learn to lay frostnova as its about to end. (freezing your opponent) you can then kit until stifle's has cooled down.
In addition to this, as EdwardWarlock stated. if a stifled fighter devastates you, your given about 4 seconds to run a fair distance before your character gets stunned. this means that by the time the fighter runs up to you. your already halfway through devastates duration.

Now for your REAL machinegun and Bazooka.

Magic Blast : 5cooldown / 5power

I will let you in on a secret that not many mages know about. at level 89 if you have spent 5cooldown on this spell. despite what wiki lies and says.. its cooldown actually becomes 1.2seconds. meaning this spell is as spammable as magic missle. in addtion to having a BK +9 wand/staff, This will tear apart anyclass.

Fireball : 5 cooldown/ 5power

Another handy fact wiki forgot to include. if you have spent 5cooldown on fireball, its cooldown at 85 becomes about 5.2seconds.
Now do you all see were am going with this? :devil: .
A mage has the ability to combo MB/FB/MB/MB/MB/FB and repeat the process. damaging a fighter for 900-1200 per HIT. and criticalling 1800-2400 OR higher.. This along with a maxed lic BK wand. along with crit gear will murder anyclass.

i will put it all in one what my empowerments are.

MagicBlast: 5cooldown/5power (now you know why)
Fireball: 5cooldown/5power (you know it makes sense)
Stifle: 5cooldown/5power
Fear: 5cooldown/5power
Chaincast: 5cooldown.

now you would have noticed. i dont have anything in my aoe's.. why, cause this = pvp spec.
TBH. leveling with inferno/frost nova is still easy as pie. chaincast makes a huge difference, allowing me to be good with aoe reguardless of its lack of empowerment.

But for those of you who cant stand the long cooldowns. if you want to change from pvp to pve. you simply reset the 10 of magic blast. and put it on frostnova and inferno cooldown.
For those of you who can afford +9 weaps and armour.. a stat reset scroll everynow and then isnt gonna kill ya.

How you play

First of all, its important to know your limits, and your durations.
namely the spell called 'Stifle'
I know exactly how many spells i can cast before it runs out.
i can stifle blast my enemy to hell, and cast frostnova with 2seconds to start running before it ends.

(this information = against a fighter. otherclasses have never really bothered me. so you guys can figure out other classes for your selfs. or a pro mage can fill in what i missed out.

'Stifle' is your main weapon, use it every chance you get..


When to use fear

Now i admitt, i can be wrong about this.. i use fear mainly to save myself incase i havent managed to get far enough, when stifle runs out. sometimes i get enemy to critical hp and take a gamble to try and kill them. which sometimes i loose on. when this happens, i need time to cooldown and mount the next barrage of spells.
i have heard of other ideas that sound equally as viable e.g. cc fear etc. you will all find your own stifle.

Chaincast

Now this to me is my special weapon. Nowdays a fighter is too smart to stand in inferno & frost nova.. or if you try to lay double inferno, the fighter starts to run because they know there limitations.
i wont lie, its only if a fighter is standing in double inferno that a mage outdamages him. however there are ways around this.. its a funny little combo i figured out that completely takes the enemy by suprise. and the best part is.. you dont even need to cast inferno to do it.
you can do it with frostnova aswell :) fighters dont pay attendsion to Frostnova but seem to be more alert when they see inferno.
Anyways, here is what i do.

the right time to use this combo is when the fighter is on stifle. and his devastate fails to stun all together.

combo: Frostnova OR inferno. CC Magic Eruption/burst (cant remember what its called on OS fiesta).

yes am not lying, magic burst. when you do this combo its prettymuch = to a fighter doing stack damage.
Fighter takes the damage of 3 powerful spells in under 2 seconds, leaving them pretty confused as towards what just happened.

Dont give them time to get there heads around it. blast them with fireball and magic blast combo. stone heals/pots honestly will not be fast enough.

AOE'S
This is my wall. i use it defensively. i try as manytimes as i can, to lay frostnova and inferno at my feet before blasting the fighter.
MAKE SURE YOU DO NOT TRY TO LAY AND AOE WHEN STUNNED.. i dunno if this happens on OS.. but if you do it when stunned on EU fiesta.. you end up stuck for like 12seconds. unable to move at all. by the time you get out of it. fighter is just about ready to devastate again.

Distance Gaining Spells

The combonation is simple and the heading shows its purpose.

IB,LB/LBst. if more distance is needed. use spells such as spell steal. and that manage killing one (cant remember name)
It is rare that i use any of those 3 spells to be honest, after being able to combo magic blast& fireball. the rest of the spells seemed pretty uneeded.

Ill leave others to explain styles of play in more detail.

Build advice

Tbh.. i cant fault anyone here
Full int works
25spr/full int(what i use) works.
one build that does work but you dont see much of though, and you will probably shoot me for saying this.
Full Dex WORKS!


yes, insult me now! i said it loool.
but honestly. evasion is the best defence against an axe. and you will notice the miss rate.

Remember, critical is the difference between winning and loosing.. so do whatever you can to raise your critical. crit suites/helmets/earrings/concentrationscrolls. anything, at all. you cant get enough crit, am serious.

This is simply my 2cents, you dont have to follow it if you dont want to.. i actually dont mind if you dont. it just means am better than you.

Hope this has been helpful.

o yeah. P.S. i do not use +9 armour. someone who does would take this specification to new limits.

Just a note - I'm not sure if the wiki has gotten the wrong info. You are in a different version so it's possible that you guys have slightly different CDs and things from OS's version.

I can try confirm it this weekend if I remember with my mage, since I have spare points.

But I kind of really doubt our version will reduce a 15 sec CD spell down to 5 sec with 5 points. Unless the higher level spells change CDs =/

MB is true.

From 4 seconds to 1.2 seconds? Not 4 - 1.2 sec = 2.8 sec? D:

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i have comfirmed all of this with my friends from OS Blaaaaah. its correct. trust me.
i just was told not to reveal it

thanks A.L

Feel free to correct ''wrong'' info in the Wiki.


Sounds about perfect for PvP builds, but I don't think it's entirely new info. Heard about similar builds from pre-79 cap. Still awesome nonetheless and finally amalgamated in a post.


It's easy to lost hope against people who go full-out on CS =/

*0*! Wow that's cool. Is it planned or is it bugged... o_o Cos I've never heard anything about this! But yepyep feel free to point our errors in the wiki and/or correct them... xD

(haven't read your updated posts yet, will do later)

Its as my friend told me. We are like a hot knife through butter.
also, i have no idea how to change information on wiki. and even if i did.. thats effort. Its because of things like wiki, that mages have decided to follow fashion like sheep, without the courage to try something new.
Let the sheep follow wiki & the hero's do more research. those who deserve to will then find this thread.

I am a true mage lover. and i can tell you, we are not underpowered in the least. a fighter who knows how to play can still be brought down by us.. and that is probably only 20% of fighters out there. i see level 89 fighters still just blindly running at me. trying to stand in double inferno like a muppet then accusing me of charms when he dies..

If someone could add info on what gear works best, that would be awesome. due to EU fiesta's newness and crappy drop rate. most mages there are simply using whatever they can find that has +38or more end. so equipment wise. am not very aware.

Heh, you're making it sound like a conspiracy of Wiki-editors who try to mislead everyone with bad-builds. People can correct it themselves or just tell someone who knows how to do it.


Community-effort kinda thing, so I'll change it.

loool. well, someone like me who only has about 5posts probably wouldnt be believed anyway.
Ivramire you have my thanks and inda next couple of weeks probably the thanks of all new generation mages.

I mean.... I kind of doubt it. But you could be right.

Gears with end/dex/int were my favorite.

Haha, Sanastra is very deadly. I have changed my skills a few times since my last few runs in the forums, and she has many valid points. As someone already pointed out, Magic Blast becomes fully spammable at level 81 with maximum cooldown, just like Magic Missle. And guess what else? It also outdamages Fireball when you reach 105. Plan accordingly!

Ah, AOEs. This was already covered, and the plan of attack has been laid out already. And stay away from DEX enchanters. They will NOT miss, and it's fun to watch an archer or fighter miss with their most potent attacks. I don't know what server you reside on but I'd love to tango with you! :love:

Really? I preferred the STR gear, myself. Everyone feared my kung-fu stick moves.

As for Sanastra, thanks for the info. Now all of these future generations can become sheep that blindly follow your ultimate build. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Resistance is futile.

Awesome post. :nahnah:

unfortunately i am from EU fiesta. but if i finally get completely pissed off with the fact that our tough cookie pack only gives 1 charm. or that our goldnines cost the same ammount as red eyes and can only be brought 1 at a time -.-.... if i come to OS i promise you will be the first to know Edward.

Just a note by the way, everything you said of the EU version (in the first two posts I looked at) apply to the NA version.

This build is not unheard of. I know of at least two mages who had this setup last summer. I presume no one wanted to expose it - that would explain why you didn't find it anywhere.

yes icy. its not new at all. and yes, the reason its not on here anywere is cause those who know, simply dont want to be copied. untill recently i was no different. however, seeing thread upon thread of 'mages are underpowered' 'this is what to empower if you want to be pvp mage... 5 on magic missle'
and all the rest.. i really had no choice.

Majority of the mages honestly never had the slightest idea what they were capable off..
This is simply an eye opener.. an when mages hit 100+ on OS severs and my friends feed me information... cause we test absolutely everything. il have more eye opening information for you all.

This is strange.

I play Bijou server at EU, and my FireBall has 5 power 5 c/d.. The level 85 one for me is only 15 secs - 4.5 secs Cool down..

The level 81 mBlast is 4 secs - 1.2 secs Cool down..

So this 1.2 sec/5.2 sec thing here you have wrong... Please can you screenie and show me your skill cd.

Thanks.

No shit.
I believe I've said many times that fighters, even 10 lvls above you,
can be dropped in 2 - 3 hits...


You judge others style of play and tell us we're wrong.. yet your way of "dropping people" seems very slow to me. All this aoe bull shit... your mage should be so powerful the opponent drops after 6-7 spells... which was usually the case unless I was fighting a CS whore.

On the countdown before you 1v1 pop your chain cast.
When the battle begins hit your fear, fireball, - insert what ever spells you use here - and if they arnt dropped by the 3k hits you've just done, pop the other fear.. by the second fear 90% of players are dead.

Only time I would ever use your way of fighting, and bothered to waste the time to drop aoe's was when I was fighting a cleric, as for they have naturally good M.Def and don't die as easy when feared.

Don't think your so godly, because I highly doubt you are ;)

You should be thankful. Seems like your Cash Shop isn't as big as the one on OS.


Maybe some of the differences in play are due to that.

First of. please if possible refrain from swearing.
Second. i am not the bible. am simply stateing a different way to play. a way that works, and doesnt depend on double fear.. everyone plays to the style that suites them.
i did not at any point claim to be godly.. far from it.. i asked others to post info on gears..
your post seems rude and arrogant to me.. but maybe thats just in my head. if you dont like it, dont take in any of the information.. i dont need to explain why i do things the way i do.. and i wont. thank you

I never do that though. I only cast skills after count down is finished. Just seems a bit weird to do it before count down, though I acknowledge the fact that clerics (and maybe fighters) cast their buffs beforehand.. just that I don't really consider CC to be a buff.

The godly bit was a joke if you couldn't tell by the little blue face winking back at you.



You bet.




Anyways I disagree with this "style of play"

chain cast >fear > spam skills > fear > spam skills <3

Thats the way a mage should play, droppin people without losin a single HP,
sounds like a good game plan to me.

Sammme, but, when the fighter runs at me, i use ice blast, , then lay an inferno infront of me, then CC fear, spam, fear, spam. Most of the time the fighter runs through the inferno once or twice


EDIT: I'd like to point out this Sanastra person is NOT from EU servers... We don't have the fireball 5.2 sec, mBlast 1.2 sec C/D yet

I dont mean to interupt u all lol, but i read ak posts u did here,but i wanna what is the best biuld for pvp and grinding both:uhoh:.with +9 gears and +) my mage is 58 only just wanna know best biuld till 60~67 or 70 lol cuz i just wanna know and inferno migth keep playing all way lol.

I believe that he plays the EU version but browses OS forums and talked to people on the OS version. He listed what applies on this (OS) version.

I'm gonna go check. I'll let you know in a second.

@off topic

Just to let you all know. I have now capped n quit gamigo fiesta. starting 3rd of June i will be playing the new Opening OS fiesta sever Cypion (or sumthing like that)

I hope to meet and learn from you all ^/^

Oi Oi, I might be joining you at around that time, I get tired of the drama on my current server and starting new helps fluctuate the stir of power. Of course I'll be playing Endurance whoring fighter Zanori again from level one or some variation to the name because people love my name so much x_x. I'd love to meet you and test metal to magic later on in levels. I hope you find your switch adjustable, sucks much to hear about your 1piece Charm per cookie, hope you like our CS system better. See you in game June 3rd!

those later levels will be very far away. not that am competeing in this stupid race or anything. i actually plan to hit 70 without enhancing. however, i will be going 150% aoe mage, pvp will be absolutely lacked.
so this text has sumthing to do with the discussion lol.

Sanastra's build for OS Fiesta:

Magic Burst: 5power & 5 cooldown
frost nova: 5power & 5 cooldown
inferno: 5 cooldown
chaincast: 5 cooldown.
whateva is left will be put on magic blasts cooldown so i dont have to aoe a single target.

hope to team with you soon then. ur mock will be the key to saving my ass.

P.S. build > pure INT.

She's right x:
What sux is that i wasted alot of points when i was a nub on mm, fb and stuff...and i have no SC for reset scrolls xD!

if your on OS you could ask a friend or guildy to gift you i suppose. i hear alot about drama etc from OS severs. but tbh. i assure you, EU is just as bad. its a sever full of sheep that follow the words of one guild. GM's who are corrupt etc.

anyhow. if you succeed in getting that skill reset scroll. id suggest taking the cooldown of magic missle and firebolt and adding those 10 to the cooldown of magic blast and fireblast.. you wont reap the true benefits until 85.. but tbh magic missle is as i hear many say 'filler spell' and it is already spamable.

Well i'm 92 :)
+i use fire ball/bolt, ice and lightning as "fillers" in between the MBs.
+skill reset isn't giftable .-. except the uber expensive pills...