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Jikanu 05-01-2009 03:36 AM

The Future
 
What do you guys think lies ahead for the human race in the next half a century? a golden age for mankind? an apoctalyptic wasteland caused by our carelessness towards nature? something better, something worse?

Yosei 05-01-2009 03:43 AM

I don't think it'll be anywhere near as dramatic as The Day After Tomorrow, or in our life time. But yeah, if we do not become more considerate of the environment, things will fall into place, and screw us over.

Ivramire 05-01-2009 04:11 AM

Not anything significantly different.


The Global Warming scare was moving things in a positive direction but that's severely weakened by the bottomed oil-prices. The immediate incentive is gone.


Frankly don't see any reason why anything would change drastically.

Jikanu 05-01-2009 04:15 AM

What about technological advances, though? i heard that they found a planet that might harbor water... perhaps we'll discover extraterrestrial life if we make advances in how fast we can go in space, though it's unlikely...

Lirange 05-01-2009 04:16 AM

i think that we'll find another life form
be able to live in another place then earth
cure for diseases
and hopefully a .dothack kind of game x]

Hyper 05-01-2009 04:31 AM

India's population will continue to grow at an exponential rate, deplete the world's resources, and basically cause the end of man-kind unless we mind some alternate fuels and way to produce more fresh water.

And space exploration will never happen. Not only could we basically never have enough power to fly fast enough to actually make space travel reasonable, but the chance that we are even remotely close to another planet that has has life grow similarly to ours is near-0.

Ivramire 05-01-2009 04:34 AM

New technology will makes things easier and easier, but people will always find ways to complicate things.

Blaaaaaaaah 05-01-2009 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper (Post 330671)
India's population will continue to grow at an exponential rate, deplete the world's resources, and basically cause the end of man-kind unless we mind some alternate fuels and way to produce more fresh water.

And space exploration will never happen. Not only could we basically never have enough power to fly fast enough to actually make space travel reasonable, but the chance that we are even remotely close to another planet that has has life grow similarly to ours is near-0.

Are you for real, Hyper? @_@!!!! I wouldn't completely rule out that possibility.

There are researches going on about the possibility of living on Mars. Pretty much because once upon a time, Mars had the same atmosphere as Earth, just that it's kinda of "frozen over" now. What people are trying to do is (I think) "change" the atmosphere and "warm up" the planet so we can move there if Earth breaks down.

^ In the most simplest term so I can summarise it shortly ^

Of course, I doubt that's gonna happen in the next half a century. It's gonna be a long long long time before they get that going from the looks of it. But, hey, technology do do some crazy things. Just the matter of time.

lamchopz 05-01-2009 06:43 AM

Quantum computing. Too early to say anything but it's not impossible. And when it's around the corner, I can't really say what we will achieve. Just know it's something amazing. But for sure, you get a lightning fast computer to start with.

A step closer to time travel, but still a long way to go.

Intelligent robots? We're getting there. The age of "Terminator" may also follow but not before we give them a brain. Machinery evolution will still largely be sci-fi at least in the next 5 years or so?

New cures for old diseases. New diseases to add to our list. Mortality will decrease but will be aided by abusive and ignorant lifestyle.

Advanced technology to help us work, and also help us get lazy. Serious implications for health and wellbeing. I mean, some people take the lift from level 2 to level ... 3 at my uni.

An aging planet and the portending gloom by the current meteorological development. Doesn't matter if we're the ones to blame, we need to work on ways to deal with it and the anti-climate change groups aren't helping. They should get a hobby and stop printing nonsense pamphlets to save some trees.

New species to discover. We still don't know a lot about our own planet yet.

Admittedly, humans evolved to adapt to whatever changes that may occur that's why we're so defenceless in nature but our superior intellect fills in that gap. We need to stop clueless people from making policies, though.

Kure_Neko_Chan 05-01-2009 11:00 AM

Dx on the topic of the future! WHAT AbOUT SWINE FLU! Dx WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE xDDDDD rofl... ;~; seriously? wat do u think is gonna happen?! Dx

srabble031 05-01-2009 11:33 AM

Swine flu turns us to zombies and we are foced to evacuate earth >.>.


/maybe


I watched some show in the History channel and if we harness anti-matter (which involves bankrupting the USA just to make 1gram of it) because, if we combine matter and anti-matter we can generate enough energy to travel to other galaxies. or something likew that >.>.


oh ya takes only a few tablespoon of anti-matter to do that o.o.

lamchopz 05-01-2009 12:14 PM

For anyone who is watching the flu outbreak closely:

http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/en/index.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHO 1 May 2009
Influenza A(H1N1) - update 7

1 May 2009 -- The situation continues to evolve rapidly. As of 06:00 GMT, 1 May 2009, 11 countries have officially reported 331 cases of influenza A(H1N1) infection.

The United States Government has reported 109 laboratory confirmed human cases, including one death. Mexico has reported 156 confirmed human cases of infection, including nine deaths.

The following countries have reported laboratory confirmed cases with no deaths - Austria (1), Canada (34), Germany (3), Israel (2), Netherlands (1), New Zealand (3), Spain (13), Switzerland (1) and the United Kingdom (8).

Further information on the situation will be available on the WHO website on a regular basis. WHO advises no restriction of regular travel or closure of borders. It is considered prudent for people who are ill to delay international travel and for people developing symptoms following international travel to seek medical attention, in line with guidance from national authorities.

There is also no risk of infection from this virus from consumption of well-cooked pork and pork products. Individuals are advised to wash hands thoroughly with soap and water on a regular basis and should seek medical attention if they develop any symptoms of influenza-like illness.


Kure_Neko_Chan 05-01-2009 12:38 PM

OMG there is 8!? Nuuuu~ The UK is becoming even more infected than it was this morning... D'x

Guess I should leave be4 its too late xD

Wow Lamchopz... You are so smart o.o

Your good at answering our questions ^^

EDIT: rofl... I just realised, there isnt much of a chance of catching it x) if I do I will be sure to tell you what its like LOL Wish me luck throught the outbreak Dx

Jikanu 05-01-2009 02:03 PM

it really isnt that bad. it only has killed one person so far in the US and that was because it was a toddler, i.e. crappy immune system. the media's making it seem worse than it is.

Vasu 05-01-2009 02:32 PM

Well, it's better to be overprepared than not be at all. But you're only talking about the US. It's killed over 150 in Mexico, and that is cause for considerable alarm.

pigspark 05-01-2009 03:17 PM

Luckily swine flu isnt in my country yet.Isnt their a vaxine to stop the swine flu?

Phantom Badger 05-01-2009 04:06 PM

Judging by the Doctor Who episodes, Britain will enter it's Golden age :3

OT:
I honestly don't know. Who knows what will happen, and I prefer to live my life asif I have many years left, instead of worrying.

pigspark 05-02-2009 10:21 AM

lol same here I am only 13 yet I get worried with all these disasters, diseases and so on.

Ivramire 05-02-2009 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 330804)
it really isnt that bad. it only has killed one person so far in the US and that was because it was a toddler, i.e. crappy immune system. the media's making it seem worse than it is.


Swine flu is so bad because it has infected not only the old and very young but the healthy 15-30 demographic. Dunno what news you're watching.

Jikanu 05-02-2009 03:23 PM

Infected, but not killed. If you get the proper medical care, it shouldn't be a huge problem unless you're very young or very old, or else more fatalities would've occurred in the U.S.

lamchopz 05-02-2009 03:41 PM

Scepticism is good but when WHO steps in and treats it as a highly dangerous threat, I think I'd rather take it as seriously as the H5N1 pandemic. It is good to have a cure, it is better not to need the cure at all.

pigspark 05-02-2009 05:44 PM

i heard they have a vaxine for it is it true?

Jikanu 05-02-2009 06:08 PM

i dont think so, i havent heard of one at least, unless it was just created today...

pigspark 05-02-2009 06:20 PM

maybe but thts what i heard

Ralath 05-02-2009 07:08 PM

There is no vaccine for it because it hasn't been produced. Yet.

Vaccine making companies can only produce one type of vaccine at a time and it is extremely difficult to switch production after production has already started. That is to say, the WHO has to decide whether vaccine companies should produce vaccines for H1N1 or whether vaccine companies should produce vaccines for the seasonal flu.

If H1N1 doesn't turn out to be a major pandemic, then all those vaccines will be useless. But if it does spread, then those vaccines will be useful. But there's not way of knowing that until it actually happens.

Phantom Badger 05-02-2009 08:35 PM

There is a cure for Swine Flu, I'm pretty sure.

DeathMagnetic 05-02-2009 08:38 PM

2012.

Jikanu 05-02-2009 09:07 PM

Lol, we acctually just had a thread on that Magnetic... we decided that it was just myth.

DeathMagnetic 05-02-2009 09:42 PM

We shal see..
OH SHI--
That's the year I graduate High School.

pigspark 05-03-2009 07:45 AM

well u graduate when u fail lol. as i was saying their should be a cure maybe the vaccine who knows or cares or something like they said swine flu is like a mix of bird flu and human flu

Blaaaaaaaah 05-03-2009 10:39 AM

There are more or less some spam posts in here. Keep in mind this is Mature Discussions and you should be showing some more thoughts in your post. 1-2 lines isn't really enough. Quality over quantity, but some of the 1-2 line posts in here show no thoughts, or not explanation of thoughts.

I will be deleting spam posts if any more does occur.


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Back on topic...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 331199)
Infected, but not killed. If you get the proper medical care, it shouldn't be a huge problem unless you're very young or very old, or else more fatalities would've occurred in the U.S.

I find that kind of view point for something like this rather disappointing. It may not be "fatal", but if people don't get the sense of "danger" with this flu, people who may be infected will be outside, being careless about hygiene, increase the rate of spreading the virus. The last thing you need is more people "infected". Since a vaccine has not been developed yet, the only thing we could really do is to minimise the number of infected people. I honestly don't see the benefits in letting this go as a "normal flu period".

Like someone said earlier, I personally think it's better to "over-react" than to treat this as something minor. Besides, I don't really think it's over reacting.

05-03-2009 01:20 PM

Interesting thread. I normally won't get into these types of conversations, but I've seen 2 points I'd like to dicuss. First and most immediate is the H1N1 outbreak. I work in the US healthcare industry, and we are laughing at how overblown this has been by the media. This H1N1 has been shown to be a MILD strain of the flu. Yes, people with compromised, i.e. weak, immune systems can die from it. However, this is just like any strain of the flu. Over 30,000 people die in the United States every year from the normal flu, and we take none of the precautions that the crazed media have suggested. Ultimately, people get sick, some will die, most won't. It's called life.
Finally, I'd like to say a few words about the global warming myth. That's right I said MYTH. One thing you learn as you get older is a simple rule - follow the money. You can look at most topics and follow someones stated objectives and see that they are making tons of money because of their position. Al Gore is making a killing because of this Global Warming scam. Have you noticed that it is now referred to Global Climate Change? More and more scientists are coming out refuting the lies that have been told, and the GW crowd is running for cover. John Conelly (sp?), the founder of the Weather Channel, has several good articles online on the topic. Recently, Lord Moncton of Great Britain was in the US to debate Al Gore before Congress and was pulled from the schedule? Why? So that Mr. Gore's 'theories' wouldn't be shot down. Open your eyes people and read for yourself - don't take what your teacher's spoonfeed you as the truth and only the truth. The information is out there if you look for it. I suggest the website Wattsupwiththat. It is a very scientific site and discusses many topics. If you can handle the subject matter, it will open your eyes.
Thanks for reading this if you made it through all of that.

Jikanu 05-03-2009 03:05 PM

...you kinda lost all credibility there when you said global warming was a myth. even bush, an oil guy who hated the idea of Global Warming admitted that there was sufficient scientific evidence to support it.

And as for what Blahhs said, yes, im fine with the media alerting us of it and saying there's a danger of death, but it seems as if they're treating it as if it's already a massive pandemic that's going to kill us all. when it comes to over-dramatics, the media excels, because that's where the ratings are.

Yosei 05-03-2009 03:10 PM

There's debates on global warming.

Some say it is global warming and its irreversible. Some say its just positioning of the Earth. But there is not actual proof, just evidence you would assume is proof of global warming, and theories.

The holes in the ozone are from years ago. We're actually far less polutant(sp?) than we used to be, at least in developed countries. Can't say that for underdeveloped countries.

There are many professionals (I wouldn't consider Bush a professional) who say different things.

Ivramire 05-03-2009 03:28 PM

I until recently thought that the Swine Flu was something that deserved the attention it's getting. That's until I remembered that the only health-related articles that get attention are scares and miracle cures. Forgot too the previous predictions about Mad Cow and bird flu. 80% of the world hasn't died off...


Still deserves attention though.


And about Global Warming, confused as heck about which side has less to gain/lose depending on what's really happenning. Guess we'll really know in a decade or two.

05-03-2009 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 331613)
...you kinda lost all credibility there when you said global warming was a myth.

MANMADE global warming is a myth. Global temperatures flattened in 1998 and have been going down since then. This data is from NASA. You can believe what you want, but until the biggest factor in temperature change on Earth is included in climate models that predict global warming, these models will never be accurate. The biggest influence on temperature of the Earth is the Sun. Currently, the Sun is in a cycle of low sunspot activity, which means lower energy output. During this time, the temperature has dropped on average globally. It's kind of funny, but the same scientists that are pushing global warming are the same ones that were pushing the coming ice age back in the 70's and early 80's. You can find the articles on the internet.
Maybe because I do research and don't always believe what the establishment tries to shove into my head means I have no credibility - kind of funny, I was always taught to investigate and form my opinions based on the information I was able to find. My how times have changed.....

MikeyG 05-03-2009 08:55 PM


Jikanu 05-04-2009 02:50 AM

Lol... carlin is quite cool. i disagree with a few of his views, but overall, he's quite right on alot of things.

Square Root 06-02-2009 02:40 PM

I remeber reading an Article a few days ago about the people in the 1900's making statements like: "What has been made is everything that can be made." Technology is increasing at an exponential rate which is really to variable for anyone to guess. Who knows, we might all be in space due to some horrible illness or a massive nuclear war. And as un reliable as this is, it is probably true. The Comedian Russel Peters said everyone will be part Asian as Chinese people and Indian people have a massive population and eventually eveyone will be part Asian. :D


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