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MagesRequiem 10-13-2007 07:58 PM

Need a bit of help with my Fighter.
 
I've been seeing a lot of 2h Sword and Axe Fighters walking around. Rarely do I ever see a Sword & Shield Fighter walking around. I only know of one high leveled 1h Sword Fighter. And I read that thread about "1h Sword, 2h Sword, or 2h Axe" and I read that just using the 1h Sword would be the best way to go. Speed and defense are what they have. And for my build i'm going pure SPR until it reaches 25. Then i'm going to go pure END for the rest of the game.

But, i'm really worried about not being able to deal a ton of damage. I'm not always going to be in a party and if I go soloing I don't want to sit there for hours trying to hack away at something. My defense will be great but what about power? Should I go 1:1 STR and END? Or should I just stay pure END? I figured I could just use rings to boost my STR and not worry about it seeing as how STR is the fastest thing to go up when you're a Fighter. But... I still do worry about it. Help me stop worrying so much and tell me if this is any good or if I should do something else.

Also, what skills should I empower? I've never really been able to figure that out so I never bothered using them. I would greatly appreciate it if you could help me out on this as well. Thanks a bunch.

Dynamics 10-13-2007 09:23 PM

Don't touch strength. I'm not going to bother arguing about it, someone else probably will. You do not need strength.

Your damage is going to suck, simple as that. No matter where you throw your stat points, your damage will suck regardless. Shield fighters are designed for partying, you're going to have to always have a cleric with you to make the most of your experience. In fact, Fiesta's generally party oriented. It's difficult to solo most of the time because of how everything works in the game systems.

As for your skill empowerments, it depends on what you want to do. If you just want to tank, throw your points into buffing the demoralizing hit and reducing the cooldown of mock. Most people will argue putting the cooldown on mock will do nothing. This isn't true. A fighter without mock empowered will not be able to hold the aggro of any mob without losing it to the cleric. After a cleric heals 7-9 times, monsters will begin to attack him/her because of it's slight taunt effect. Generally healers will empower cooldown on their heal. That's 2.1 seconds between each heal. 7 heals will take 14.7 seconds, 9 heals will take 18.9 seconds. Mock has a cooldown of 25 seconds without being empowered. Empowering it will bring it down to 18 seconds. Enough to regain the attention of the mob, and dispelling the taunt that the cleric had attracted with their heals. This is on the assumption you are not stunned in the period, and this is also only applicable on mobs of 3 or so monsters. Obviously in a 1v1 situation a fighter would use snearing kick, but that isn't relevant against a mob of 5.

If you want to deal damage, empower slice and dice. It's your only offensive skill until devestate at level 43.

Zotius 10-13-2007 11:49 PM

Hmm I thought devestate was the AoE stun? Well from what I know, tankers should go for Stun, Taunt and Mob Debuff.

Valentines 10-13-2007 11:59 PM

That player had points in strength.

rokaraged 10-14-2007 12:04 AM

Devastate also does damage...Its slightly weaker then powerhit

What dynamic told you is basically a Pve aoe build of a fighter. To be blunt you'll tank great and you'll level extremely fast with the right people. But don't expect to do anything in pvp.

an Enpowered mock helps ALOT, although its not beyond impossible to mob without it. Once you have devastate they'll stay with you. Not to mention mock becomes a waste if you want to pvp.
Demoralizing hit empowering is something I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND. The damage decrease is noticeable but hardly sufficient for the cost.

Btw: i thought the lowest cooldown for a heal was 3 seconds? >.> if i'm wrong then i've been RIPPED OFF AGAIN.


As dynamics said if you go 1hander just accept that you won't be dishing out much damage.
Buildwise Go full end
If you want some critting though for an extra kick i would get 25 spr for the 5% crit increase comebine that with +5% crit sword and with the speed your dps should be effective.

Don't be afraid though to try other weapons unless you put points into the weapon specific skills theres not too much difference

Blaaaaaaaah 10-14-2007 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rokaraged (Post 27831)
Btw: i thought the lowest cooldown for a heal was 3 seconds? >.> if i'm wrong then i've been RIPPED OFF AGAIN.

Yes, you are being ripped off. =] Original cooldown is 3 seconds. 5 points into cooldown reduces it to 2.1s.

MagesRequiem 10-14-2007 02:27 AM

Okay, so basically my build is fine. But could you be a bit more specific with the empowering? Just tell me the skills I get at whatever level and what I should empower. Be exact because i'm not a huge fan of abbreviated words.

rokaraged 10-14-2007 02:44 AM

Powerhit demoralizing hit and Mock comes at level 20
devastate at level 43
Vampiric strike notexactly sure but its a 5xlevel skill.

Valentines 10-14-2007 02:56 AM

51.

MagesRequiem 10-14-2007 09:49 AM

Vampiric Strike comes at level 51 and then again at 59. Don't know about the higher up skills as I wasn't in Uruga long enough to check it all out. Okay, so what exactly should I empower? I want a high leveled Fighters opinion. Preferably one who doesn't get his ass kicked and does well in PvP/PvE.

Dynamics 10-14-2007 12:56 PM

Vampiric strike has a huge CD of two minutes, not worth getting IMO. And in all guild wars no one does well solo against someone of the same level. You have to work together with the guild to down someone. That's balance.

rokaraged 10-14-2007 01:20 PM

The thing is though with a shield fighter you will have trouble making kills. But on the otherhand you'll be extremely hard to kill. The problem is though being a tank in pvp just makes you a distraction but anyone with the right mind would ignore you and go for a much squishier target

That thread you saw the other day that said 1 handed weapon is best is kinda true. Its the best weapon for grinding out of all of them but IMO if you EVER want to pvp, you need to pick up an axe.

ONE EMTREMELY IMPORTANT THING that the thread did not compare was that THERES NO DELAY BETWEEN SKILLS.
Pvp to be blunt is a warrior skill combo spam fight. If you have an axe and you skill spamming YOU WILL SKILL SPAM JUST AS FAST AS A 1HANDER but with more damage and higher crit rate.

Vampiric strike- yes the cooldown is a bish but it can save you from time to time.


Eitherway don't be afraid to use both 2handers and shields, Theres really not too complex differences betweeen them. They work well with all builds to an extent assuming you didn't empower slicendice or powerhit

Dynamics 10-14-2007 02:13 PM

I believe the most versatile build to allow you to wield both a one handed sword and the two handed weapons would be full spirit. No other build benefits all the weapons, and allows you both a reasonable PvE/PvP presence as a fighter.

Falcomist 10-15-2007 04:11 PM

im a end/spr build and I wield both a 1h/shield and an Axe ^^.

Renin knows my build is okay ^^. Tanking is wonderful but when it comes to PVP i have to rely on my guildmates more >.<. Or when it comes to lvling i need to rely on the dmg dealers.

U know what sucks though?

seeing a cleric doing more dmg then me lol.

rokaraged 10-15-2007 09:18 PM

Agreed sad thing is all of the cleric weapons outdamage thier fighter counterparts.

A cleric's hammer will do more damage then a fighters 2handed sword. BUT THEY GET TO KEEP THE SHIELD...
If it wasn't for the cleric's HOPELESSLY LOW AIM...Fighters would be out of business..

The axe is the only weapon that outdamages a cleric's...


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