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FutureKnight 03-13-2009 03:22 PM

Pvp Mage build
 
Im thinking about making a mage, i want to make it very strong at pvp. what stats shud i use?

Ivramire 03-13-2009 04:56 PM

INT/SPR.


Yes, full INT may give you more damage, but crits. are more important in PvP.

Blaaaaaaaah 03-14-2009 12:12 AM

I'm only level 66 but I like my full INT build (with high END gear). I don't have 25SPR but I still crit a bit. Can't I crit heaps and heaps, but yeah. Use wand for PvP too, and try to find one with a high % crit (I think the highest is 6% except blue wands which gives 8%?). Find one with a max lic too for extra crit, but it might be costly.

Keep in mind you probably wouldn't shine in PvP until you get 60+ for fear. So have some patience. You may get owned a lot in PvP below 60, but it pays off when you get higher... xD

FutureKnight 03-14-2009 08:50 AM

hmmm, i think ima do 25 spr and go pure int after that

Blaaaaaaaah 03-14-2009 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FutureKnight (Post 307085)
hmmm, i think ima do 25 spr and go pure int after that

If that's the case, I think you should go 1:1 spr/int until you reach 25 spr? I'm not sure if it'll be too hard for you to level if you're going pure SPR in your first levels...

CrazyVietFs 03-14-2009 01:37 PM

it is true base on what blaaaaaaaaaaah had said... It is better to go at least 30 int... then start add to SPR... until 25 spr go back to int ... If you go 25 spr first, it will be really hard to lvl the first 25 lvl .... well unless you are a cashshop user and got +9 armors etc... and plenty of tier 2 vit ^^

FutureKnight 03-17-2009 10:24 AM

But that Int/25 spr Is that a good idea? I will hit hard and the crit would maximize it.

_Arcane_ 03-17-2009 11:42 AM

i do the same (25spr /rest on int) and i hit fine , i spam a few crts here and there manytimes but then again i dont use a +9 XD so i dont have any +crt on it.

Ninja_Medic 03-17-2009 11:43 AM

PVP mages fail...

:P

If you are on Apoline, I can give you the name of a PVP mage and she can help you. :ninja:

FutureKnight 03-17-2009 12:15 PM

Im on eptih but i can make & play my mage on Apoline

Senyx The Soulless one 03-17-2009 01:52 PM

INT/END

Godly SPR gears.

And lots of critical SC items.

You'll be epic.

Ivramire 03-17-2009 02:02 PM

^Why SPR gears though? You don't get the biggest benefit of crit% from equips, END from eqs. is arguably more useful.

Senyx The Soulless one 03-17-2009 02:11 PM

While this is true, The fact that SPR is the blue stuff you need to keep on blasting, A critical Neo glasses (4%) Critical Whatever uniform (7%) And like, The mara hat (3%) Would put you well above a normal critical rate, Without wasting the stat points, And it''s not all that much SC either.

Ivramire 03-17-2009 02:21 PM

Then why can't you focus on getting END equipment instead of SPR equipment? I don't think that Mages have trouble with their SP, at least not enough to justify getting SPR eqs.


END on eqs. benefits a Mage more than it would in stat.points, because SPR from eqs. doesn't have the crit. bonus. while block bonus from END was never there to begin with. Just seems to me that it's more benefit with the 5% + crit rate from stat point SPR (or even in INT) rather than the same amount in END which you can very easily get from equipment.

FutureKnight 03-17-2009 02:23 PM

[Critical] Blue Dragon Wings 5%, [Critical] Blue Dragon Costume 7% + 25spr 5% + Neo Glasses 4% = 21% Crit rate :)

Senyx The Soulless one 03-17-2009 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lvramire (Post 308703)
Then why can't you focus on getting END equipment instead of SPR equipment? I don't think that Mages have trouble with their SP, at least not enough to justify getting SPR eqs.


END on eqs. benefits a Mage more than it would in stat.points, because SPR from eqs. doesn't have the crit. bonus. while block bonus from END was never there to begin with. Just seems to me that it's more benefit with the 5% + crit rate from stat point SPR (or even in INT) rather than the same amount in END which you can very easily get from equipment.

Touche'

But the fact remains, Mages have no need for STR, or DEX, (But if i ever saw a DEX mage, I'd run) So if you have 2 main areas to allocate your stats, Then which one is to be left out?

SPR-Increases critical rate and MAX SP
INT- Increases overall magical damage
END-Increases MAX HP and block rate(?)
Critical SC items speak for themselves. So i'll let you pick from the 3. But i stand by my INT/END build, it's worked wonders for me, Though i find myself running out of SP usually every 2 times i go down my spell row.

Ivramire 03-17-2009 02:30 PM

If you're completely factoring the CS in your build, why not mention the +9s? +9ing something doubles its defense, so it makes it so that you don't even have to add points to END.


Heck, CS makes it so that you don't have to use your stat-points at all :nahnah:

HPhealer 03-17-2009 02:31 PM

if the mage only have SPR/INT it will be good for pvp but not really for aoe at abyss or in the dungeon he will die fast

Senyx The Soulless one 03-17-2009 02:33 PM

A good point, +9'ing your equips would give you a definite boost to both your Mdmg and Critical rate. And when it comes to mages, The armor is a definite YES.

Problems are the expenses.

Some people resort to selling SC items to meet the demands of +9's.
And never know it's illegal till' it's too late.

Goodbye, 75% of the first gen players! I knew you well!

FutureKnight 03-17-2009 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPhealer (Post 308708)
if the mage only have SPR/INT it will be good for pvp but not really for aoe at abyss or in the dungeon he will die fast

And i can buy godly mage gear including End Gear <,< +9 them and it will return the lost Def

Ivramire 03-17-2009 02:45 PM

Now that I think about it, the best PvP build if you're going to splurge on CS would have to be Full-INT.


END would be useless because you'd be +9ing your armor. SPR is useless because you can easily get crit items. And though you'll be +9ing your weapon, points into INT punch through defense, something that you can't buy and especially effective against other C-Shoppers.

Senyx The Soulless one 03-17-2009 02:46 PM

SPR/INT with godly end gear and critical SC items........ Nice combo. And the AOE on him would be massive, btw. INT is magical damage, And SPR is the amount of blue stuff he can pump out.

HPhealer 03-17-2009 02:46 PM

uhhmm SPR/INT build is only good for pvp and not really for dungeon or aoe because the mage will die faster then a mage with END(for hp and more def)/INT/SPR

FutureKnight 03-17-2009 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPhealer (Post 308714)
uhhmm SPR/INT build is only good for pvp and not really for dungeon or aoe because the mage will die faster then a mage with END(for hp and more def)/INT/SPR

Second time you said this -.-

Senyx The Soulless one 03-17-2009 02:49 PM

Yes, But don't forget the +9 armors and such. They count more then some measly points in END.

FutureKnight 03-17-2009 02:52 PM

yes... and the end wont raise the mage's def much.

Ivramire 03-17-2009 02:53 PM

I believe this thread is about PvP builds.


PvE =/= PvP. Mages need to +9 armor for PvP, otherwise they're OH'KOed by Axers. The true beasts in the game.

Senyx The Soulless one 03-17-2009 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FutureKnight (Post 308718)
yes... and the end wont raise the mage's def much.

Are you kidding me? It doubles at +9, Meaning that whatever your whimpy storebought armor is now, it's like, 3x tougher. And lets not forget that if it has stats, Preferrably godly, It'll add just that much more own.

FutureKnight 03-17-2009 02:54 PM

true true i always kill the mages in like 3 hits at pvp maybe 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senyx The Soulless one (Post 308720)
Are you kidding me? It doubles at +9, Meaning that whatever your whimpy storebought armor is now, it's like, 3x tougher. And lets not forget that if it has stats, Preferrably godly, It'll add just that much more own.

I dont mean End on Gears but adding end to ur stat build... End on gear is indeed nessesary

Ivramire 03-17-2009 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senyx The Soulless one (Post 308720)
Are you kidding me? It doubles at +9, Meaning that whatever your whimpy storebought armor is now, it's like, 3x tougher. And lets not forget that if it has stats, Preferrably godly, It'll add just that much more own.

I think that was posted about END in free-stats.

Senyx The Soulless one 03-17-2009 02:56 PM

Try and kill mine. :D

20END
15INT
Godly +9 lvl 30 gears
Mighty potion.
Full critical outfits.
And a bad attitude.

FutureKnight 03-17-2009 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senyx The Soulless one (Post 308724)
Try and kill mine. :D

20END
15INT
Godly +9 lvl 30 gears
Mighty potion.
Full critical outfits.
And a bad attitude.

I wud like to 1vs1 but we're not on the same server :(

Senyx The Soulless one 03-17-2009 03:01 PM

I've seen level 60-something fighters fall right into an archers kiting trap.
Took him down with all sorts of nasty duration moves.

I've seen a 80 fighter go down by a 60 mage. All because of the mages' mad skillz and stuff.

Level stops mattering after 60+, When stats play a more important role in your gears and such.

FutureKnight 03-17-2009 03:03 PM

True True

Any other idea of making the perfect mage?

ninacows 03-17-2009 04:03 PM

I think a full SPR mage with high End & Int gears would also be good at pvp because i heard Int on gears is different to Str.
and also a lvl 80 pure spr mage can get 28% crit without cash shop items

HPhealer 03-17-2009 07:51 PM

uuhhm END/INT is the best build for a low and high lvl mage,i dont know yet if its good for pvp (i am trying it on my lvl 23 mage)

FutureKnight 03-17-2009 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPhealer (Post 308807)
uuhhm END/INT is the best build for a low and high lvl mage,i dont know yet if its good for pvp (i am trying it on my lvl 23 mage)

if ur lvl 23 with ur mage... how do you know its the best build? and no build is the best build u just got to know how to play with it

HPhealer 03-17-2009 08:37 PM

im playing with it and its the best build because with END more def and HP thats what a mage need , and INT for hitting harder

FutureKnight 03-17-2009 09:35 PM

like we said like 5 times in this thread... End Wont raise ur def much unless u have +9 gear.... and like i said, no build is the best. u need spr for sp and crit. u can get end (hp from green items)

Jikanu 03-18-2009 01:26 AM

plus, adding end takes away your capacity to do massive damage. if you can kill the mob quickly, do you need to last that long?


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