Gifting in exchange of game currency is STRICTLY PROHIBITED
 

Rule Confirmed. :D

o.O is this the right section?

rules are made for breaking.

We already know o-o We have known... for a while.

But wait.. ? Does that mean that we CAN have alternate accounts??

^I didn't think it was prohibited?

Oh wait >.> I mixed it up with sharing accounts.. k nvm >.<"

on EU alternative account is prohibited though.

Also whre they that stupid to not forsee that this would happen?

Just because they say so, doesn't mean it doesnt happen.


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=/ i thought outspark knew that would happen from day 1..

Wait so.. people were paying other people ig money to be gifted stuff or what? o-o

/fail
/kindofconfused

i think so.. x.x idk i ish confused too

Well that was easy to forsee that it would happen.

Some spoiled kids us it as a way to get rich IG cause they are bad at it :P

Also it opens a lot of doors for scamms.

At first i was like WAAAAAAAT cant gift to alt accounts?!

then i realise it's "multiple" gift... and it also said "If your alternate account cannot purchase then there is a good reason for that"...

So I think it's for those people who has a "flagged" accounts...

i use 1 account as storage... but all my character are 20+.... i can't send gift to my noob account.... ?? Or use my noobs account to send gift to my Main?...

I think that paragraph was particularly aimed at those who are gifting to their "alts" which have probably exploited the gifting system or had problems with cash shop...

"Multiple gifting to your alternate account is prohibited." Don't know wat they call as "multiple" but... single is fine? XD

There is also the issue of people using several accounts, charging with PayPal or a credit card, gifting, and then reversing the charge. The account receiving the "stolen goods" in this case would whine to the high heavens about a gift being taken away, even if they got it by fraudulent means. This is just nipping something like that in the bud.

You haven't seen the shouts in game?

I saw one in Elderine "selling raccoon mount whisper me," and I pop my head in biweekly, lol.

As for the "Multiple gifting to your alternate account is prohibited." line, personally I think that's kind of iffy. I myself hold only one credit card, and that's locked in my main Paypal account. Unless they've changed it, a Paypal account can be used at most one on Outspark account, no?

Speaking of which.. I actually saw someone vending an actual raccoon (15 days) for 4g in Elderine once.. it was in their shop.

I can't play right now >_> (Haven't played since like.. Aug/Sept)

Don't have a computer that can play/handle games...

I charge my bf's account and my own account with 1 paypal account... is that suppose to be a problem?

Well if they let you do it, then it's probably not. I know ijji didn't let me do it, and I moved from ijjiGunZ to Fiesta. So that Paypal statement is personal experience off of GunZ, haha.

its all so confusing for me T_T;;

i think what there trying to say is that you cant give someone in game money for them to gift you. Thats like selling sparkcash?
But i dont really understand the no gifting to alts.

Its a good way to avoid gifting when you dont want to. Gifting strangers who shout or wisper you can ignore but when a friend or guildie asks, ...

BTW I note the statment reads "gifting in exchange for in game $" Does that mean gifting in exchange for gear, scrolls, pots, stones, and mats is ok?

What they mean is, if you have an alternate account which cannot charge spark cash, you cannot keep gifting CS items to it.

They say you can't sell SC items for IG Money (Gold and silver)

This means we can trade for it in copper ? xD

Or gems.

I love ambiguity.

Things in brackets are examples... Copper and gem are still part of the "IG money" group.. so I'm afraid your argument wont work there in court...


but the suggestion of giving items might LOL!! (But in the court of Outspark.. they always win... trade at your own risk)

i'm curious of how strictly it will affect now... My noobs alt contain most of my scroll 400+ tier 3 vit, 200+ tier 4 vit, and 20+ stack of sbl, BL, BT, and lots of other Mats... though they are lvl 20+, i do sometimes hob on them for a mara KQ, or Honey KQ, my cleric is 40+... "40 enter Honey? all +9 vit 3 tier 4 buff"... and yeah, i do send charm, HP extender to my noob, and also then use my noob for production, then transfer large amount of scroll to my Main.... hopefully this will not consider as *SC selling* lmao, they would defintely know it my alt... *crazyhealer, crazysniper, crazywarrior...* "if they consider myself as *SC selling* i'm probably quit and start on Star Craft II and Diablo III

alright, what I got from that and from the GMs harping at me for stuff this is what it means (according to me)

If you try to get gifted items for in-game money, both people get banned. i.e. going around eldy shouting, 'buying premium beauty coupon' is illegal now. If you do, they will ban you because OS doesnt like people getting SC items w/o actually getting SC. Its all business.
The thing about not gifting multiple items to alt accounts is a bad phrasing on their part. To me i think its talking about alt accounts that cant buy sc themselves (i.e. scammed OS so they dont like you anymore) like some people have said earlier. There is nothing wrong with moving IN-GAME items back and forth between different accounts. I got a PM about a month ago with a message like the quote at the beginning telling me to stop trying to get gifted stuff for items, and I'd show it here but I cant get to the OS forums from here beacuse it has the word game on it O.o such evil!

Basically, dont try to buy/sell spark cash items and your fine. there is nothing wrong with giving gifts, but dont try and get a profit out of it ;D

btw Sir_Jacob is back ;D

Outspark is fucking stupid and this is why i dont play that play no more. they would have this problem if they would just allow sc items to be tradable buuuuuuut nooo they wannna be stupid and try to control the world so of course people are always gonna break the rules because even if they say dont there will always be people willing to spend real money just for fvirtual casg ans vice cersa it is the way these games work when someone wants to be powerful they will make sacrifices....

All outspark dumb asses need to do is make the SC items (ALL of them
) tradeable and we would be have no stupid issues like this right now...

To add on to this it is STUPID AS FUCK that you cant even xfer sc items between your own characters. So they just taj up your little intentory space you have and all outspark says is


No they will not be tradabnle...Sorry for this inconvenence MAN FUCK OUTSPARK


just my 2 cents

I don't actually think OS is bothered by the way people gift for ingame money. Either way they get their money for the items.

I think they made this rule because a lot of people got scammed and started crying. They gifted items and got no ingame money or figured out later they got payed way less then what it was worth. So they make a report and say they got scammed. Or the other way, they payed money and never got their gift.
Personally, I think OS is sick and tired of these reports of people that got "scammed" because they trusted a stranger, so they made it prohibited. So, if you do gifting now, its on your own risk, you have no right to make a report about it if you get scammed because then you'll get banned.

which bring's up my point.... if they were tradeable less people would get scamed... I WIN

It sounds more to me like their isssue is plp creating accounts and chars, charging sc, selling gifts, then deleteing the account and disputing the charge.

I saw andromeda sell her V-day outfit Perma...xD!

I just wish the cash shop items were tradeable because I really want those Cat ears but don't feel like spending real cash. Fiesta is the only game I've played where all cash shop items are bound. Maybe it's for the economy's sake?

Well we wish it is....D:

I really want those ears so much ;~;

Maybe because outspark thinks it will decrease their sales?
But i really think that making cash shop items tradeble increase sale a lot. Take flyff for example.

Flyff was a failure! I don't want it to be ever like Flyff

<-- Anti-Flyff

Actually I'm kind of happy that CS items aren't tradeable. FlyFF had the biggest inflation ever to the point where I can't even buy in-game armour because of the high prices...

GM's of Flyff= uber fail, OS is going the same way.