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Why are clerics so dumb nowadays!!!
In a KQ party, you:
Heal first, fight 2nd. Save yourself before saving others. Invince yourself, then go revive someone else. Revive a cleric first, DDers 2nd. Stand out of mob's AOE range. MD jumps, you run! Keep spamming heal on tank. Then heal everyone else in the party that hasn't got full HP. Don't stand around and talk. Make yourself useful. You see a dead person in the path, you revive them. That's all the advise I want to pass onto all the clerics in my last MD KQ. |
You're last MD KQ?!?!?! o_o
You should format this post and post it on the officials... with a different title, of course. xD |
It seems 80% of ppl can't play their class correctly now-a-days D:
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I'm so focused on watching everyone else's hp that I always forget about my own I never even know if a mob is hitting me xp |
Yeah x.x I think I'm a pretty good cleric though. Can't wait til I'm done with MD. It used to be my favorite KQ, but I dunno anymore.. I hate how like 9/10 people that die, end up bugged. And then when I try to explain it to them, they don't get it and start bishing me out, calling me a bad cleric, lazy, etc.
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spam heal, recover, rejuvenile, heal recover, heal heal, recover, ... mobs attack me, stone, pot, cs pot, heal, rejuvenile, heal, recover, heal, recover, lmao i'm going crazy.. 2 archer 2 mage, myself as a cleric, going mad on blue clover trumpy... left right... forward backward... well it was hectic but it was fun, no one die... but i'm tired lmao ^^
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actualy i have been lucky enough to party with awsome clerics in Robo ( I know ur talking about MD.sorry) I alaways seem to still be alive after i hit major lag. but then again robo is the only time when I party. |
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And yeah. The last two MDs I went in were also fail. SO fail. It's a bit hard to get "used" to. Back in the day when I go in MD a lot, sure there were lots of weirdos/people who don't know how to play their classes/stupids and things, but it was something I expected back then. Now that I've been going to heaps of KKP, I forgot all about having stupids in KQs. In KKP, you don't generally have to deal with stupids, just leechers. But leechers... I forget about them halfway through the KQ cos they're not there. But in MD, I hate having to WATCH stupids do stupid things. Oh and GH KQ, there is no such thing as heal. /rant |
Yeah x.x thanks to the bug, one of my MDs ended up with just 7 people in the end when we started the dragon with 15.
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Most clerics seems to have a 5 sec reaction time or something... Quote:
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What is Heal?
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only 1 thing I can say, the Plvl generation they dont know how to play decently cause they always begg to be lvld and therefor dont know the game.
Not saying everyone does but a lot of people do. |
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I think some clerics don't even know what heal does they go up to a mob and start whacking it with their hammer, die, and then blame the other clerics for concentrating on the fighter who is tanking instead of him/her srsly... |
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Clerics who expect other Clerics to heal them :rolleyes: Epic. |
I actually dun like that.
I'd rather they whack the mob than heal me when I can very well heal myself. |
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Annnnd this is why I never join MD without guildies anymore. Because when I join alone, it fails 75% of the time. D: It's not just the clerics who have no idea what they're doing, although that's a huge part of it...when I was joining all the time, there was usually a shortage of competent tanks as well.
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yes, i hate it when your in a kq and ur just dead and the clerics dont even res you, like in mara kq-_-
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Sometimes I'm not looking at the chat. My eyes are concentrating on peoples HP. Mainly because when I go into a KQ, its with Targon, and he likes to tank on his archer, so I have to spam heal on him. But I still rez someone if I see they need it.
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I've come too realize that you need too be somewhat educated to be a cleric. :zzz:
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I learned something about KQs and Clerics. On my mage I was in GH and had to tank it because no fighter could mock or out dmg me. For some reason I survived through that. How you say,by pt with people from well know Guilds Academies. They might be new to the class but you got a good chance its an alt and they can figure stuff out.
Gave a little good word for GG since I was in the academy at that time. --- Anyway I dont think they empower heal at all..."must put all points in bash" |
I dont think empowering heal is neccesary for agood cleric, it just makes it easyer.
I never empower it myself, when I started you couldnt even do it(the power). So I learned doing without. Also most of the time the extra heal goes to waste(person being healed already full hp) |
I got heal empowered for cooltime and heal amount. And I also have invinc empowered for duration time.
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I got CD but I found power not really usefull.
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if anyone wants a cleric that spam heals everyone in GH or Mara kq, just post here and ill get onto my cleric on teva XD
(though it has to be when im on~) |
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A Clerics Story From THIS MORNING ...
go to CP1 as a lvl 66 cleric - did NOT even need to buff myself until I got through to where the nox's, bright golden bats, and archon's were (in the maze of rooms) ...
PARTY ONE: self impressed tanker pulls a HUGE mob with a few big bats and a couple noc captains archons and regular nox's to me ... and gets angry BECAUSE this cleric FAILED to heal him (while I was getting killed and ended back in Uruga)PARTY TWO (with different person): SAME STUNT!! ... killed and back in Uruga ... IF YOU DO NOT LIKE how Clerics do it ... check YOUR OWN SKILLS first ... I admit that I am NOT always 100% spot on ... You don't like how clerics do it - DO IT YOURSELF! ... I was in KQ where a SO CALLED Tanker was crying about clerics not doing their job ... and I (a Cleric) was the ONLY ONE tanking the final monster and NO ONE helped until I had about 1/2 the life out of it - then OTHERS finally joined in and let me die so I lost the exp points from the kill because no one was doing their so called JOB. BOTTOM LINE: a Cleric CAN KILL MONSTERS - NO ONE ELSE can buff squat! ... it's probably your fault things went wrong!......... Get Over Yourself ......... |
^ You do realize that about three quarters of the people who posted in here either play a cleric as a main or as an alt right? |
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And no, it is not always our own fault if things went wrong. Not in this KQ case, anyway. I was in the same KQ the thread starter talked about. In fact, we both have clerics as our main, so I'm pretty sure we know how to tell the difference. I'm sure everyone else in this thread also knows how to tell the difference between accidental deaths and a bad cleric. As for your story I'd say you just had a bad day, but don't go telling everyone to get over themselves when there isn't any "getting over" to do. Thank you. |
You can start a thread about incompetent "tankers" then... (actually i think there's a few out there)...
and as for "Do it yourself" I HAVE done it myself, thank you very much. Ask anyone that has done KKP with my cleric, I can tank when I need to, and I can support when there's a proper tank. I can do both, and I act on circumstances. My post are for those new clerics obviously need a lot of tips from experienced clerics. Unfortuntely, the clerics that were in my MD CANNOT kill monster, and they cant buff squats either. If you can, good on you, u're probably a good cleric. My advise goes to those that still has a lot to learn. There was nothing more I could do as a mage.. I kept myself alive, and do dmg from a distance. I already minimised cleric's load and allow them plenty of time to only heal the tank. It must be my fault that mage cant do the job for clerics. |
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You probably aren't on enough to know ... |
^ o.o Blaaaahs is fairly active on her cleric. Clerics do have it kind of hard.. I'm failing on my nub cleric LOL. I haven't even learned my shortcuts yet, and I have a really slow reaction when it comes to healing party members xD My cleric is still low leveled though, and I don't play her too much, so I'm still learning. This explanation can't exactly go for some other clerics. When you play a class up to a certain level, you should start to be able to understand how they work... 2x, even 3x clerics are easy to forgive, but if you don't understand that the purpose of heal is to keep other party members alive, and that the purpose of rez is to help that person dead on the floor by 5x, then you are one fail cleric. In that case, the rest of the party is NOT to blame! When I first started playing the game, I wasn't very picky about clerics... heals are better than dying right? xD But after I got to know a few amazing clerics and was wowed by their tactics, I started getting annoyed at clerics who fail to keep me alive. I won't deny that it's hard to watch 5 different HP bars, but if they can't keep alive a party that's buffed and scrolled and doing their best (stoning, potting etc.), then they aren't doing their job. Hessah's first post really goes for all clerics... -bookmarks for whenever I'm doing a KQ on my cleric- |
i've been playing on both my desktop and laptop at the same time, so I understand how hard it is to keep your party alive, but when I only play on one account, I find it really easy for me to take care of a party ^^.
I've run a couple of MD's these past couple of days and noticed that our cleric DD ratio is terrible, so I've been running my cleric just because I'm well good at that class as well. The one I remember that was really silly was the one where there was only 1 cleric. Me. Some how, I managed to keep everybody alive, keep the tank healed and also rez people who died XD. This was with all 15 people. They were like wft, how does one cleric do so much XD ^^. |
Well I must say.. We probably dont party with randoms often enough to know... Our guildies are great enough...
The only time we do party with randoms are in KQ... hence the rant... @neko - if only the clerics in my KQs are half as good as you, this thread would not exist!! |
lol i know, i complain when i run md on my mage >.< clerics are terrible XD...
granted all of the skills i've picked up are from my wife after healing me over the course of the year ^^ |
XD That's why I made my mage MD-tankable, coz I'm fed up with no decent tanks!
Then i ran into the problem of no decent clerics >.> I can't be everything! |
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I'm not trying to be mean, or "picking on you", it's just that I hope for you to see both sides of the story properly before telling people to get over themselves. We know that there are both crappy players in all classes, yet there are wonderful players as well. We are just ranting about the crappy players in this particular thread. |
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