About Elrues
 

Elrues are being way undersold in this game. If you don't know, let me just tell you. Elrues are being sold anywhere between 30-50c each. Elrues take 9 dusts( 3 of each kind to produce). If you were to sell those mats, you could sell them for 10c each and people would buy them. If each mat costs 10c and it takes 9 mats to make an elrue, then elrues should be selling for at least 90c each. 9X10=90c Selling them for 30c each is underselling them and your only ripping your self off.

same with lixes n xirs because they're made of elrues -.-

The NPC's sell elrues at 270c EACH. I think that 100c would be an appropriate price. But anything lower than 70c each is just too low. Its not worth it. If you were to sell the mats so that 9 dusts=30c then you would be selling each mat for 4c. 4c!!!! That isnt even worth it. Thats one more than the NPC will buy them for. Start selling elrues for more.

The problem here is that half the people in Fiesta sell them at that price. Because of this, anyone selling at 90 copper would be considered "ripping off" the community. Supply and demand would probably account for this phenomena. A lot of people supply elrues at such a cheap price because there isn't that much demand for them. People don't stick with level 1 weapons for long, afterall.

and as i said lixes n xirs :P
lixes should be 90 x 3 + 3x copper(lq) (15c ? ) = 315 ? well like it and they sell for 200c ea.
xirs = 3x lix + copper + topaz ?....yeah over 1s ea.

You cant just set a price and hope people will follow it. Even if you were to get everyone to agree to set the price at 90c, people will constantly undercut each other to save vending time, unload their stock etc. The market controls the price, and since theres such an overwhelming supply, the price is naturally low (theres still times when very few people are selling and the price tends to be higher then).

I do wonder how the people selling at 30c are making money though. Probably farming mats themselves or ripping off noobs with 1c purchases.

If its never gonna change and people wont sell them for higher, then Ill just sell the mats for 10c each and make tons while they rip themselves off

I reckon its the new players that are constantly ripped off. I like it this way though, keeps the cost of making lixes down, 90c + mining time.

Xir prices are even lower because very few weapons make it to +6 and even fewer people risk upgrading it. I had to sell my lixes at 450c just to get rid of them.

lol.
Anyways i'm gonna sell my elrues 100c, lixes 300c and almost can make xirs..which are gonna be 800c+ ^^
And as i c now many are selling lixes 300c and elrues 80c+ suddenly !

edit : Xirs are 1s now atleast in roumen ! !

I just buy the elrues that are lower than 55c and turn around and sell them for 65c. It is a slow way of getting money but it works. Do the same thing with scrolls. Sell the scrolls for 140c and you can make 20s a day.

Decomposition of Dim dusts yields anywhere from 14-19 dusts. And these are easily acquired by drops or shops. The prices will range from 60-100c, and assuming you buy at 60c:

60c/19 = 3.158c per dust.

3.157*9 = 28.421c Elrue.

And therein lies your profit. Keep in mind the values I selected are absolutes.

for your information, i DO sell my elure for 90c at Roumen and my Lix for 370c at Elderine in Teva server.

And I'll tell you that they DO get sold.

You can say that I'm ripping other people off, but if I sell it for any lower, I'm the one being ripped off. The materials are not essentially worthless as you have spent your time to get them. Once you get a old soul dust, you are theortically 3c richer as that's a garantee price you'll get from the NPC.

And if I can potentially sell dust for 10c each (which I have) then Elure are worth 90c as stated by others above. They should be happy already that I'm not charging them a crafting fee! XD

And I dont believe its ripping people off when they know very well how much they're paying for. Often other Elure that advertise for 35c are empty shops. I'm just playing at the low supply curve for a high price.

I beg to differ, actually. Hessah already stated most of the reasons.

It is lovely for someone to sell their items for a very cheap price, and I'd be the first to buy it, but I wouldn't do that myself. If my sole reasons for selling elrues was to make money, then I would definitely not sell them for anything before 50 coppers. Why? I can sell the materials to npc and make more money out of it that way, so I don't see why I would do that.

I reckon the actual problem is underpriced things, especially with the elrues. In CB, it was fine. People sold Elrues for at least 100c back in those days, making that particular production skill actually worth getting. But now, people selling them for such low prices made me stop levelling that production skill. It doesn't feel special, if you know what I mean. I know making elrues are supposed to be for enhancing, but we all know that half of us makes them to make money. However, if everyone's selling them for such low prices, I don't see what's so special about the production skill. I had lost interest in that skill ever since people underpricing elrues.

Also, some prices may be a "rip-off", but I wouldn't say that we rip them off if they choose to buy it. We aren't there to lie to them that the stone is worth 90 coppers and persuade them to get it. Some people may just have a lot of money to spare, thus they buy the 90c elrues. It is their choice to spend their money, and it will just only be our problem if the items don't get sold.

Furthermore, if everyone goes selling their elrues for 25 coppers, there will be someone out there who will think "oh, everyone is selling them for 25 coppers, I'll sell mine for 10 coppers so it gets sold quickly!" Isn't that the reason why half the people sell things for that cheap? It's so that they are cheaper than other people, and everyone would buy their items first.

All in all, I don't think it's a crime to sell elrues for 90-100 coppers. If someone out there is willing to buy it, let them be. I don't think a newbie out there who have very little experience in the economy will be ripped off by them anyway, since they probably wouldn't even have the money and you get a heap of dusts when you train at low levels, thus they can make it themselves anyway.

I dunno. I just like buying them at 35c then selling them at 50 - 70c. But I was surprised to see an upgrading material being sold at 30 - 40c when I first started.

hehe.. i guess i just dont want to pass on the profits to other people... i want all the profits to myself.. hence pricing them at my high margin.. keke

Ahh I see.. Seems like even 60c people dun wanna buy elrunes.. I guess you'll know that there's always a 40c selling lurking around. How do you manage to sell your elrunes at 90c each?

I actually hvnt been selling Elures for a week or two now.. (been converting them to lix instead)

but i set up a shop in Roumen at the stairs... and they get sold when i'm at work (9-5pm Sydney Time) which I believe is about 6pm-midnight ish in America, which is their prime time for playing ^^

I dont really sell much during my sleeping hrs, as i figured that's work hrs / school hrs in America...

yeah there we go :)
lixes go for 300c 100%...why the fuck do people mess with elrues ?
it's pointless, doesnt make cash and wastes time. + it's easy to reach 300 or even 200 whatever it was.
If you pick this production skill...i reccomend enchanting lvl 1 stuff to +3 :)
like all your armor, weps etc !
and make lots of them, dont buy mats then thought lol ^^

anyways: a dude who has sold me dusts has earned 11s by now. because he had lots of them :P

i use to sell my Elure coz i was running out of room in storage... (even with 4 characters i'm still out of space...)

imagine having 300 elures in ur storage.. that 30 boxes... thats 1/4 of ur storage....

that's why.....

You well other priced the mats tho.. the dusts in CB could be bought and sold between 3 - 5c 10c 15c for mats nowadays is rubbish pricing, if anything everything has gone up accept maybe the acception of elrues but they only dropped by like 10c. 100c for a elrue which could break a lvl 20 weapon is pointless might aswell go buy a lucky or blessed for just a few 100c more.

that's true.. ppl selling tough meat for 25c?! and full shop of summon beast leather for 50c 0.o i think that's going crazy.... it'll be easier to create a new account and farm them urself.. or i have discovered the wonders of mat decomposition ^^ 11 tough meat from 1 tender meat... YAHOO~

but the truth is... for me... i cant sell the elures of i price it 95c or above... so to me.. 90c seems like it's the max margin keke...

90c Haix I find selling them at 40c difficult... Well what does mat decomposition do?

make tier 2 materials into tier 1 mats, so u can use it for ur step 1 productions ^^

eg. i hv tones of tender meat, but i need tough meat to make potions.. i can convert 1 tender meat to 11 tough meat so i can use it =)

also converts ur Dim dust to Old dust for the purpose of this thread..

but keep in mind u need dim for Elure [2]

i'm talking to thin air than if u're on apoline...

Im no longer selling stones. Im selling stone materials and making at least 5s every hour. Easy money.

hmm that's an idea... but i like my stone making skills keke