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Sparkeh 12-30-2008 12:14 PM

Clerics Build
 
lol i need a build that do damage and high hp and def...

how about...

25 STR rest END?

Full END?

25 END full STR?

Soo i need help Dx

Ivramire 12-30-2008 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky_96 (Post 273483)
lol i need a build that do damage and high hp and def...

how about...

25 STR rest END?

Full END?

25 END full STR?

Soo i need help Dx

(haven't played for a while so take under caution)


Realistically, without CS and the inclination to spend either real-life or in-game money you cannot do all these things, only have a trade-off between durability and lethality. Overall your build has a relatively small effect.


There is the full STR route that I've seen some people accomplish with great effect. Tough to take down as long as they aren't ganged-up on and devastating 1-on-1 PvPers. Get your END from equips though you'll still be squishier than other Clerics (no Cleric is really squishy though imo)


50 End rest Str is the most common approach. Full benefit of block-rate % before adding more points past 50 adds only half the benefit. Gets stronger with time, more so than than the full Str as you'll have the 50 End to work with. Also recommended for the dedicated Healers.


Obviously the only route for Clerics to increase overall damage is to add Str or increase Bash's cool-down/power/SP-Consumption (I say SP-consumption because you'll be able to Bash more with the same SP and SP stones. The only other useful stat for Clerics is End and Spr (the extra m.def and SP is kinda useless for Clerics but the crit rate might bear looking into) (though 'tis rumored Clerics get a Int. based magic attack late) so a good build will have a balance between the two.

Leesa 12-30-2008 03:17 PM

Take the 3rd one, 25 END rest STR, because having some extra def and hp is important, but its pretty useless to have so much you won't need to heal >.> Rest STR is good because clerics are icky dmg dealers, obviously ><" If you want to take it a step further, once you reach 50 str, put 10 in spr to have a nice well balanced build, then.. do w/e u want add 5 more in end then put str again... yea.. but 25 END 50 STR 10 SPR in that order is pretty good o.o But I'm not an expert at all so.... >.>

Sparkeh 12-31-2008 12:37 PM

I think 25 END rest STR is good becuse im trying diffrent builds

like this, Archer=Full STR

Ivramire 12-31-2008 12:46 PM

Well, there's no wrong build :angel:


So long as you don't put in Int or something you should be ok.

MikeyG 01-03-2009 07:52 AM

IMO any build now for a cleric other then pure str isnt that great.
Pure str u can get end from gear... pure str only way to dmg monsters especially with +9, and only way to pvp....

Srry to those builds I made look bad but end clerics imo are horrible and are good for nothin but party healing, end/spr can EASILY be attained from gear, and with pure str u dont have to have a +9 to do dmg

cillia 01-03-2009 09:05 AM

^go with their suggestions. I used to be 25 STR rest END, but I found that after lvl60, I was better off pure end, which is what I am now. If you plan on doing lots of soloing, str is good, and also for pvp. Just keep in mind though you may end up buying END scrolls if you don't have much up. Even with end gears, if you are pvping and you get a deva, if you have mostly str, it won't help you much while your stunned/feared/mobbed.

Just a heads up.

MikeyG 01-03-2009 09:14 AM

And if your pvping it wont help much if your sitting there getting beat on and cant return the favor, You basically need free stat end to make clerics dmg worth a crap, and im not unexperianced the matter i played a 78 cleric end/spr with full max str +9 gear LOL and a 85 pure str cleric n also my alt pure str cleric. I HIGHLY recomend going with str/spr or pure str.

And yeah who doesnt buf or scrol for pve anyways, health is no problem your still gunna have alot from gear. MY mage had 2.5k natural health from end gear at lvl 69 so yeah..

Helbrax 01-05-2009 12:41 PM

I've fiddled around with my cleric build a lot. So far, the build I like the best is my current one, which is a 25 SPR/25 END/The rest in Strength.

I can take a beating when I'm in a party, but thanks to the higher crit rate, I can still solo effectively with the lower strength. With a decent crit weapon and crit gear(game and/or cash shop), you can get a pretty decent crit rate.

Empower damage and cool down on Bash and watch the pretty purple numbers!

If you DON'T have a +9 weapon, then 25 SPR and rest STR would be the way to go. You can get your END from gear and Endure will help out with your HP as well.

Sir_Jacob 01-05-2009 02:08 PM

First, there is such a thing as a wrong build. A fighter that is pure int is an example of that.

Second, my cleric is 50 spr and is currently working str. It effective from what I can tell. I dont die and I heal forever. That's just me.

MikeyG 01-05-2009 03:01 PM

LOL Helbrax if you do have a +9 weapon then pure str is the way to go.
I used to be a hybrid believer but slowly saw triumphs way and saw pure builds seem to be only way to go... other then the 25 spr rest something build... Spreading it out overr 3 stats is a waste imo.

Helbrax 01-05-2009 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyG (Post 276202)
LOL Helbrax if you do have a +9 weapon then pure str is the way to go.
I used to be a hybrid believer but slowly saw triumphs way and saw pure builds seem to be only way to go... other then the 25 spr rest something build... Spreading it out overr 3 stats is a waste imo.

It's entirely up to play style and personal opinion. I had a high strength build for a while, and switch to a hybrid, and I like the hybrid better, even when soloing.

In my opinion, 25 SPR is is just too delicious to pass up on a Cleric. So I would at least recommend a 25 SPR/Rest Strength build. I think spreading it out over a few skills it the BEST way to go for a cleric, simply because Clerics are already a spread-out build anyway, so sticking it all into just Strength makes you a squishy fighter.

A 25 SPR/X Str build is going to kill at almost the same rate as a pure STR build, if you prioritize your Crit rate. My build will kill slightly slower because of the reduced strength, but makes up for it with a higher block rate, higher HP(not much though, only 125 more hp), higher Defense, higher Magic Defense(if you go 25 SPR) and a higher Crit rate. I wear gear with +STR and +END and I can grind on monsters my level pretty quickly, thanks to a high crit rate. The only time things go slowly is on higher level monsters, mostly due to the crappy accuracy you get with a hammer, but you can always use scrolls to help compensate for that.

Again, this is all my opinion. If you find yourself doing solo a lot, you'll probably benefit from a SPR/STR build and invest in END gear. I solo a lot, but I prefer the added benefits of some END vs full STR, simply because I feel it makes a well rounded support class(aka a CLERIC), and not a straight DD.

Unless you are investing in INT, there isn't really a way to make a BAD Cleric. All of the builds I tried were good at *something*. I just happen to like my build because I think it does a good job of balancing Solo and Party play, without sacrificing too much from either column.

*shrugs*

zero_gut 01-05-2009 05:14 PM

this si awxsome

Triumph 01-05-2009 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyG (Post 276202)
LOL Helbrax if you do have a +9 weapon then pure str is the way to go.
I used to be a hybrid believer but slowly saw triumphs way and saw pure builds seem to be only way to go... other then the 25 spr rest something build... Spreading it out overr 3 stats is a waste imo.

:laugh:

Pure builds tend to yield the highest effect. The only builds that come close are xx STR:25 SPR or xx INT: 25 SPR. Pure builds are generally employed by players from Japan, Korea, and Taiwan, whereas hybrid builds tend to come from the United States and European Fiesta. That's what I've noticed, at least.

I do not suggest putting any points into END, unless you are pure END, and that is for tanking only. Other builds can easily compensate for this "loss" with equipment with END stats.

If you want a personal standpoint, I went pure STR for my fighter, cleric, and archer, and pure INT for my mage.

Just my two cents.

Helbrax 01-06-2009 12:39 PM

I was enjoying my build until last night. I gained a few levels and noticed that it wasn't scaling as well as it was in earlier levels. I might get a stat reset scroll while they are on sale and do 25SPR/XSTR again.


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