Robo KQ Sucks Pretty Hard
 

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Its ridiculously hard, completely pointless, and totally random. The first few KQ's were great. They had a story, they had a flow, THEY HAD A POINT!

Robo serves no purpose but to survive against a ludicris ammount of odds in an unreasonable ammount of time. My advice: Purge ROBO from the game and replace it with something more constructive. Hell a KQ where the whole point would be to sit in your mushroom for five minutes would be more constructive than ROBO.

EVERY time I have tried Robo KQ, we have failed. I have NEVER heard of a group winning robo except when G____G went in there when Blaaahs posted about it and even then half the room knew eachother.

Get rid of Robo.

I wouldn't call Robo KQ as a hard or impossible at all, I see that in your KQ, there are a lot of enhance weapon, back in the day, when i still play, there aren't any any weapont that enhance past +6... and I always get 9 times wins out of 10KQ. Robo and Spider KQ is all about teamwork, *the five minutes of shrooming is the times for you to decide on who is going to be the runner, who going to go for vivi etc..., appoint clerics to spread out ... one of them concentrade on runner and others on vivi tanker... fighter is best for running b/c they can mock the mobs while running "speed scroll prefer", archer and mage should work together to kill off vivi, once vivi is kill, then the KQ is a win, after that... you decide on killing robo or not... Do not try to kill robo unless you got a very good tanker and a good party, or else mobs will appear and everyone will die.... same thing for Spider KQ, gl

-crazy-

Seriously. Back in my day, Robo was a win about 90% of the time (unless you got stuck in the B instance). Are people just really that bad at the game these days? Sure, it was a bit of a challenge, and if people didn't know their roles things went to hell, but it was fun. With enhanced armor and some scrolls, Robo should be mind-numbingly easy. I used to tank all the time without the benefit of enhanced armor. The main thing is to NOT kill Robo unless you have a really, really good group.

i always liked robo kq... but then again im a end build cleric who always had a few speed scrolls handy ^_^

as long as the people in the group do their jobs up until the last wave of mobs its easy... once the last wave comes all ya do is run and the people not running pick off the vivis and archers...

was easy for my cleric maybe not when i first got in there but towards the level cap for it i was rockin stuff

hey what level is spider? i just got 47 so i can do md and buff just gotta get a good team going

That reminds me, Clerics can run and heal at the same time now. Even easier.

Robo is really good. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Only problem is, that if a key player is a retard, the KQ is a failure.

Yeah ROBO is pretty nasty. I gave up on that long ago because the players never work together, just in their particular parties and no one else. If you that the success rate is bad on this, just wait until after 45 when you get the Cranky Honeying KQ! :zomg:

now theres a bad kq O.o!! Honeying has a very low sucess rate, plus the exp is not that good from mobs.

One of the skills you need to learn in Robo is how to RUN!

Stock up on some T1 speed scroll...

When the massive mob spawn, help fight a few things if you can, but once 2 or more things start hitting you, start RUNNING!

With speed scrolls, the melee mobs rarely catches up to you... ranged mobs will occasionally get a hit or two in, but you should have enough time to pot / stone...

Don't cut corners, run in a big circle around the room.

the longer you can run for, the bigger chance it is for you to survive...

And watch the timer... if u died at 5 mins left... and there's still lotsa people running around, wait your time out before getting up.. never get up too quickly... always check your surroundings before getting up (like dont get up when someone with a bunch of mob is running towards you)

And never stand still.

Your survival is more important... than killing any mobs, so if you see a bunch of mobs heading your way, RUN!!!

Robo is easy as long as people generally know what they're doing. DDing classes should be AoEing as much as possible while fighters tank and clerics heal. As long as you have a couple of good tanks and competent clerics, you'll be fine. If you're in-doubt about whether or not you can win, it doesn't hurt to get someone to declare being runner, kindly reminding people of what to do if they're not doing it (kill vivis and archers first, don't leave room yet), etc.

I loved doing robo. My fighter is tank-built and teamwork is absolutely essential in robo. It's not like MD where you can have two really good tanks, two clerics, and you're good. Once I was capable tanking, I never had failures unless things were really, really bad (runners going into rooms or through the middle, clerics not healing, etc). And I didn't even have to scroll up. Like it was mentioned, robo lets you separate the competent players from the incompetent. I got a lot of friends from robo that I still quest with from time to time.

Imho, you only need one runner though. If multiple people are running, chances are, the trains will crash with each other, and it never ends well... Running isn't always necessary (I've done robos that had no runners successfully), but it's the best thing to do. Just don't get an incompetent runner. A lot of people who volunteered to run had no idea what they were doing and ended up getting us all killed. Too bad I was usually tanking robo because everybody wants to kill robo, regardless of how much time is left on the clock.

I agree that it's best not to get up too fast, but if you don't see a lot of people around, get up. There's nothing worse than losing robo because everyone's hoarding their hearts, hoping for other people to get up. And it happens more often than you would think.

Hey, in the beginning, Robo used to fail within 5 mintues quite often. LOL

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The REAL reason we lost the robo KQ...

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Everyone was too busy molesting a piece of glass instead of stratigizing. This is the crap I have to deal with on Bijou.

Im switching servers I swear to god...

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ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

That's so funny though~ I also notice your sparkies looks funny...

people just standing around when there's a runner running?

i ABSOLUTELY hate that!!

I've seen some stupid cleric DANCING while people are lying around dead...

then 10 sec later he gets killed by a mob that charged at him from afar...

ZOMG!

Sparkies, I dont follow...

Yeah, they did that for a good minute AFTER the mobs appeared. Then this one guy who was all like "I feel so godly because im the highest leveled cleric here" Started griping because he "somehow" pulled the entire rooms worth of mobs and wanted to cry "n00b" and say people were not doing their job. If he was doing his job, others would be alive to do their jobs, which would keep him from getting flattened to begin with, and I would be lvl 39 right now. Not sitting at 87%...

The golden lights around you from your academy master status. On your screen they look see through/smudged (over your name).

Yeah thats just the screenshot. Degraded image quality because I dont have Photoshop installed on vista.

keke his glow thing looked fine in OP image

lol i have only won 1 robo but the exp is good , in that particular one there was the part where robo (which when i first did th kq i thought was a gonna be robot lol) and his gang slaughtered every1 but the clerics did a whole revival thing....i also think we won cause some1 was spammin that only lvl 40+ should join but i joined anyway :D best decision iv made in awhile

LMFAO Don't even get me started on that one. After the initial 3 parts of this awful KQ, give up. You'll get to and beat Giant Honeying unless everyone is 47+ and there are at least 4-5 fighters, 3-4 Clerics over 47 and a mage (me!). Sorry archers, you piss off a lot of monsters, but I kill them faster.

It has been completed with archers before.

It's ideal to have at least 1 archer, to kill procks...

Failed....ANOTHER robo today.

I told everyone in the KQ that if we won this robo, I would quit fiesta and give ALL my stuff away. Obviously im still here so we didnt win. The winning strategy:

"Everyone focus on robo."

I asked:

"Whos gonna run then?"

To which he quickly replied:

"Runners, we dont need runners. Im a tank. I will pull all mobs."

That lasted about....0.01 seconds, followed by chatbox spams of "REZ PLS". About the only person that made ANY sense in this iteration of robo is the guy who called the tank a moron, and mentioned that he should be casterated to keep from contaminating the rest of the world.

I quickly concured.

HAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont think anyone is capable of tanking all the mobs unless they're T3 scrolled, +9 geared, extenders....

or just really pro like our tanks in FF Robo KQ, I dont think we did much of a running coz FFers are just that awesome :smarty:

Don't need a runner? LOL, that's rich. I've only been on one where we ended up killing EVERYthing before the time ran out...but that's amazingly damn rare. Perhaps ever rarer these days, it seems.

I swear to god, if outspark released a cashshop item to hand over your first born child to change characters to another server, I would seriously consider it right now. I am so done with Bijou. Im half tempted to just join a FF inhabited server and hop on the academy list of a good guild.

Im almost sick of fiesta to be honest...

Mindspank....

What gave you the great idea that KQ from other servers doesn't fail?

Losers flock all servers, we cant escape from them.

(Just thought I'd give u a heads up before u regret giving up ur first born LOL)

Well, even if you kill robo, you still have to run the clock out. And robo spawns more mobs. See what I mean? It's not like spider where you kill GS, wait a few seconds, success, ores with mats everywhere to mine. So you get stuck with a ton of mobs in addition to the initial mass spawn at 8 mins or whatever it is. To make matters worse, there are people who are misinformed or downright lying to everybody. Some players told others that we had to kill robo to win just so they could get the kill for that quest. I think it's disgusting, but it happens. And even if people know you don't have to kill robo, some moron will always go after him anyway... even with less than 2 mins on the clock with no DDers...

I've only had a couple of robo successes where we had no runner. But the only reason why we won is because all the squishies died and only scrolled-up, top-lvl fighters and clerics somehow managed to survive the clock.

I increasingly realize, as I do lower-lvl KQs, that the success is dependent on a good tank. I never really dealt with this problem much on my fighter, but on my cleric, you know it's bad when I'm healing wisely and I still draw aggro quite often. And I never see much mock or kick, which worries me...

But don't take the word of someone who declares himself tank all the time. I had a fighter declare himself tank during robo once and nobody questioned his competence. He got one-hitted by robo, which would have been near impossible with the def he claimed, plus he had lower-lvl equips on. *sigh* He kept on going "IM THE TANK" long after I took over. So it goes.

Because a successful Robo is like Bigfoot:

The only people that seem to see them are people who exsist in the primordial ooze outside of the gene pool and are less than reputable, or are too eliteist to tell you how they did it. They just keep going on about their uberness and their awesome guildmates.

At least on Bijou anyways.

Not to mention there is only one validated and recorded instance in history, and even that has fallen under much criticisim and scrutiny.

Im not saying there are less losers on other servers, just more people to play with. Im totally alone on Bijou, with the exception of my wife and one guy on my friends list who is active. 90% of my 40 levels were done solo, and the game is just more fun with people you know.

Gah! That no snearing kick/mocking thing pisses me off to no end. Months ago I was playing my mage alt in a Mara KQ. The guy pulls Mara by running up to it, and the guys who went to melee behind him kept getting caught up in the AoE/vine spin attack bit. So I told the guy the snear kick, as that makes her focus on the tank and gives a wide berth behind her to be free. He kept telling me I didn't know what I was talking about since I played a mage. Yeah, skippy, my 60+ fighter is there for window dressing.

Admittedly, when I was in Robo I didn't mock very much until I got a shield drop. I'm an axe fighter, so mocking in the middle of a ton of monster spawns generally isn't a good idea. I also had to carry around a shield for MD. I was also leery to use anything over T1 scrolls because I rarely got into a party with decent clerics. Guild KQs were always the best, heh.

It might also have something to do with the amount of EXP they give vs. the Abyss. When I did KQs, there was no Abyss to attract the "hardcore" players, so KQs a lot of time outpaced the EXP of grinding.

I'm not sure if it's always been like that for low-lvl KQs but the lack of competent fighter tanks drives me up the wall with my little boy cleric. I had to clank a couple Mara KQs because I told the fighters to mock and kick if they had high def and they were like "what's that" while the mage was getting clobbered. So I started clanking and someone complained about clankers and I said "just watch me <3". We did end up winning but it was a hassle because people kept getting OHKO'd by AoEs and yelling at me for not being able to res them all at once.

I mocked with axe in robo, but I was careful about what and how much I aggro'd. I could take some skeletons, imps, wolves, etc, just fine. Running into a crowd of dark skeleton knights with an axe and mocking isn't a good idea though... I would also leave the tanking up to anybody who had higher def and could hold aggro better than me, but there were times when nobody was pulling the mobs. Switched to a 1h + shield once I pretty much became main tank.

Mindspank, why would having more people on a server make it better? You get more good people and more idiots. If you want more people to play with you that are competent, join a good guild. I like partying with my guild mates in KQs because we all know what we're doing and don't have to worry about trust.

From what I hear there isn't a decent playerbase and there aren't good guilds on Bijou...but that's mostly scuttlebutt. And probably a bit of Tevaian bias.

No I can vouch that your heresay is no longer heresay, and is founded on good solid facts. Bijou is the cesspool of outspark. Honestly, no one gets banned for banable offenses because the GM's wont even go to Bijou unless they have to, and when they do they stay in the battlegrounds server shouting gay comments. I swear the GM's must let their kids moderate Bijou.

The only good guilds are the eliteist pvp fags, and they are only good because of their points. Their players have nothing going for them in the way of personality. Honestly the only reason why I stay in my guild by myself is because I dont want to waste the silver I spent to create it.

There are a small handfull of good players on Bijou, the rest are homos. Straight up. I dont care who reads this. The last KQ I succeeded in was gold hill and that was because I was the only one who knew where the boss was and the tank and last two clerics died fighting the boss, leaving me the last man standing. I won out of pure luck.

Next to nobody in Bijou have even the faintest idea of what a community is. Its like all the cool people from all the other servers congregate to Bijou to act like assholes twice a day because they dont want to seem like that on the other servers, where reputation actually matters. People want 20 gold for green close bows (lvl 30 bows) with NO enhancements and shit stats. People ninja quest items when your AOE'ing and fighting multiple mobs. Noobs XP syphon when your trying to solo in the abyss. And im not talking about an isolated incident, im talking about three to four extremely low leveled players all huddled in a group waiting for you to pull a mob, or single enemy in my case, and they begin chipping away at it while your kiting it. And its the same noobs EVERY DAY, EVERY TIME. You get crappy parties in Kingdom Quests, mean players out in the fields. It never ends. NEVER. Its always something stupid on Bijou.

Now I must elaborate, EVERY time I have been to Uruga, the players were civilized. Structured conversations in open chat, proper pronounciation, politely asking for buffs, players willing to help you out if you have a question, some players even greet you.....

Unless your below lvl 40. I have been to Uruga once since turning lvl 40 and it was like night and day compaired to the other times I went there with my old guild. Before every time I went there it was like someone standing in the towers yelling "JERK ALERT. JERK ALERT. ITS A LOWBIE!" because I would get flamed, and im not talking the occasional comment, im talking PM SPAM about how someone let the trash roll into Uruga. Mind you, these are the eliteist pvp fags ive been mentioning, and have probably long since gone. But those were my early experiences with higher leveled players.

It seemed that all of the lower leveled players, on the other hand, only knew how to say two things: "Gimmie monies plz" or "plvl me plz" and thats IT. Oh they would run around yelling "BUFFBUFFBUFF" if there was a cleric on the map, or cry "REZPLZ" if they died. Between the lower leveled players and the higher leveled ones, I always wondered what the game was like on another server.

So in closing, no Hraesvelg, thats not scuttlebutt and teva bias. Your absolutely right.

Talking about the EU Bijou. tbh,, we have a better community over here, the reason why i left OS (Apoline ftw!).
from level 33-45 ive only seen ONE successful robo. (Somehow. i managed to be the runner, [Mage power!] And then the clerics were all afk or whatever. so the last 5 mins i was running about, while the mages and archers were killing the mobs one by one, and the fighters only helping the archers. Then in the last 5 mins, i died, used one of my hearts, and my fighterpartyman mocked them all while invulnerable and ran. so we won :D.

Apart from that ive heard about another 3-5 successed robo....

Now, tbh the only noob questing we get on our servers are about making stones and scrolls and stuff AND enhancing. Since my level 2 fighter stone maker has +9 weapon and shielsd, i get asked atelase one time each login. And my master decomposer, the same (Level one cleric).

Other then that i hear "Maz i get into your guild!! PLEASE im level 7 fighter"
or some high levels shouting "PLVL PLOX" "I NEED 500S TO FIX MZ BROKEN WEAPON!!!!"
But its fun. So fun, that me and a friend go to roumen and help some lowlevels level up :]
And then my friend buffs them to x4-x10 their hp.
funfufnunfunfunfufn. And us being level 5x nobs, we get asked "Is that the highest level".
Oh well, enjoy the atmosphere while we can :3.
fyi ive never seen our server on medium nor full, so pretty lagless (Untill a few days ago, where were starting to get a few laggs :P. Not as bad as OS)

Yes, Procks are the scum of the earth. Ok, ONE archer lol.

Failed another Robo, just to keep you updated. Lost on account of we had no warriors over lvl 40 to devistate and draw the mobs. Plenty of clerics, but no warriors. And like 5 minutes into it, people quit because of it, so we lost.

Again.

I see a trend emerging here...