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Untitled 12-11-2008 12:22 PM

Questions
 
I played fiesta a long time ago and have only recently returned I have forgotten most about the game and I'm interested in creating a fighter.

Many of the guides I have read are confusing so I was wondering if anyone could answer a few questions I had or post something that may help me.

I want to be a pure STR fighter but I have heard its wise to have 25 or 20 Spirit points

I know SPR increase's the amount of criticals you get but is it important? and if so which is better 20 or 25 I was told at 20 you get 4% more critical and at 25 is 5%

What is a basic guide to 1~40+ Do I put the points If I need them into SPR first then STR? and I get extra points added every level so do I need +25 or +20 or just for it to equal 25 or 20 for example 10 (+15)

Also what do I put my points into with the skills and I sore something about potion, scroll making etc.. whats that all about

Sorry if there is a better section for all this to go under but I would like to start playing and leveling as soon as I can but I would hate to get to a certain lvl and then found out I have messed something up

Hessah 12-11-2008 10:21 PM

With SPR, you get 0.2% crit each point you put in SPR, and after the first 25 points (i.e. from the 26th SPR point onward) the crit rate from each point is only 0.1%.

That's why it was recommended that (if you want to put in SPR) that you go up to 25.

There's been debates on whether Full STR fighter does more dmg than a 25 SPR / rest STR fighter. I guess in the end, that's up to you. I believe most say that overall a full STR fighter does more dmg.

IF you do decide to go SPR/rest STR, I'd do the 25 SPR first, then STR afterwards, as by level 20 you'll have all ur SPR sorted out and u can concentrate on STR (but I think in the end, it doesnt matter too much).

Skill Empower

Since you sound like you want to be a dmg dealer fighter, I'd recommend that you use an Axe (once u've reached level 20) and increase dmg in power hit.

After that, I pretty much saved up all my points for devestate for level 43.

Don't empower slice and dice (its tempting at early levels), it's not worth the points.


Hope that helps a bit!

koager 12-11-2008 10:28 PM

I'd say to do 25, 30 str first then do the 25spr
doing 25spr at the beginning makes it painful
the str will help you level faster

Untitled 12-11-2008 10:43 PM

I was talking to someone in Fiesta and they suggested 1H and a Shield if I'm going pure STR and to put all my skill points into slice and dice till I get deve

I like the idea of the 1H & Shield but putting all my points in slice and dice seems odd could anyone help?

koager 12-11-2008 10:50 PM

slice'n'dice is a 1h skill
power hit is a 2h skill
so 1h people would put points into slice'n'dice and deva (tankers may also add points into mock and kick). but I think most people still dont empower slice'n'dice. if youre using 1h you can buy level ups for it but the points would still be better spent elsewhere.
2h people would put points into power hit and deva

using a 1h+shield will cut your attack power
it may be good for soloing but its mediocre for a party
people are given roles in a party. fighters either tank or DD. Using a 1h sword + shield but with DD stats would mean that you cant kill as fast as a pure DD and can't tank as well as a pure tanker.
the other nice thing about using a sheild is that if you add 50 into end you get +1% block rate. since youre are going for a DD build you would lose that

Hessah 12-11-2008 10:53 PM

Hmm.. at max, I'll only put 5 points in dmg for slice and dice...

coz you'll want to save up enough for at least 10 point in devestate... (dmg and duration..)

did you go full STR so u can do massive dmg? Or just to balance out with fighter's natural tanking built?

Most high levels that I know who are full STR use Axe.

Loveless 12-11-2008 11:00 PM

Nuuu... don't put point into Slice'n'Dice! Save it for Devastate and more powerful skills at level 60! Slice'n'Dice has a short enough cooltime for you to just spam it.

If you do use 1h+shield for your full STR build you will be a good solo'er and a decent tank. But remember that you will always be outdamaged by someone who is using an axe/2h sword. Recommended skill build:

5 points into cooldown for Mock
15-20 points into Devastate (Power, Duration, Cooldown is a must. SP is optional)
5 points into power for Accurate Strike (1h), Precise Strike (axe/2h); possible cooldown but I don't think it made much of a difference.

Untitled 12-11-2008 11:24 PM

Which build would be doing more damage?

koager 12-11-2008 11:28 PM

pure str axe fighter
they are the only ones that can rival the attack power of mages
(I think mages still do more due to mobs having a lower mdef than def)

Untitled 12-12-2008 12:55 AM

I was told 1H would be a good idea for pure STR because the attack speed makes up for the damage cut

Hessah 12-12-2008 01:09 AM

Hmmmm I have a feeling the dmg done by a 1H sword is so small that the attack speed isnt going to make up much for it.

But I don't have 100% prove, maybe don't empower any skills yet, and try both weapons at level 2x and see which one you like better?

a 1H & Shield fighter isnt made for dmg dealing, so I'm pretty sure it should deal less dmg than an axe fighter, even though they may be slightly slower.

Loveless 12-12-2008 02:39 AM

There are pros and cons for both weapons. And it just comes down to which you have fun with. I'll test things out when I get the chance to go online since I use both 1h and an axe. My build has been reset to full END recently to revive a dying breed of 'real' tanks.

From experience the axe will kill much faster but you will end up drinking up a lot of potions and stones. While the 1h will allow you to use less and keep going for a little while longer. If you go full STR and have a good STR based 1h weapon you may have a higher dps than an axe user whose damage is 'unstable'.

Untitled 12-12-2008 02:56 AM

What type of armour should I go for?

I have chosen to go with Full STR Axe Fighter
I'm still having a few problems with the skills could anyone help me sort it out

What order do they go in? am I missing anything?
+5 devastate CD/Damage/Duration (Should I do SP?)
+5 Power hits Damage
+5 Mock CD
+5 Precise attack Damage & CD (Do I need Cooldown?)

Loveless 12-12-2008 03:31 AM

Armour you should always look for something with END and then STR... maybe some DEX too. But that's the order you should look for END > STR > DEX

With axes you will only be using skills, the normal attacks are too slow and you wouldn't depend on that to kill the mob unless they only have a tiny sliver of HP left.

Since you're still lower level (I'm assuming?) make sure to add max damage for Power Hit. That'll be your main skill for dealing damage.

Then Devastate at 43. The order is really up to you, I don't quite remember which order I went... but probably CD, damage, then duration. I put it in SP as well because that is the single most used skill for any fighter.

Add maxed damage for Precise Strike when you hit 60. Cooldown, I found wasn't worth the points. You still have to wait and during that time you can spam the other skills.

IMO, as a fighter you will have better defense than the rest of the classes (except maybe a full END cleric). So I suggest you add cooldown for Mock. You will at one point or the other have to tank... or even just duo'ing you'll need to keep the mobs off the cleric or whomever else you are with at the time.

Untitled 12-12-2008 03:53 AM

I haven't started my fighter yet I wanted to get all the info I needed before I create him just incase I mess up and have to start over
at the moment I'm just selling all my cleric equips

So I should.
1st. +5 Power hits Damage
2nd. +5 devastate CD/Damage/Duration/SP
3rd. +5 Precise attack Damage
4th. +5 Mock CD

CrazyVietFs 12-14-2008 03:15 PM

I have experiences so much with fighter... and since i got 3 fighter, i can tell you how to build, it depend on how you want it... 1 of my fighter are lvl 7x, and he stay at 7x b/c i want to make money off Phino KQ... enter 10KQ you probably make 1gold... my others one is lvl 50... Torture King Solers, and 1 more at lvl 40 for decomp/and comp...
I already try these build on my fighter ...

- Full Str...
- Full End...
- 25Spr and Full Str...
and now this is my build and i like it very much ...
- 25 SPR, 30 Dex, and Full Str...

- 25 spr for 5% critical ... it is ideal to stop there... after 25 it get lower
- 30 Dex for 6% evasion, 6%aim ... after 30 it get lower ...

- if you go for end at all ... stop at 50end, b/c that when the block rate get lower too ...

- 1h with shield, or 2h axe?
- why not using both, I'm a greedy fighter, so i use boths, at lvl 70 I also use 2h sword "blue" b/c it look cool lmao ...

- 1h and shield for tanking, and 2h axe for soloing... put it as hotkey and you can switch back and foward really fast when you are a PRO...

for skill empower....
max cool down on mock, and devaste... and VIT
- "Vit is very important, you wouldn't know it unless you are not a good player."
- also max damage on Devaste and Vit, then save your point for lvl 60 whirl wind...

as a tanker... you use Vit right before you hops on your hobby and pull... once you finish pull, use devaste right way, b/c at this time your damage is at a mage lvl and you will be able to hold agrroo of the mobs...
once your devaste cool down, use mock... and after that devaste again...
- this trick is usually for lvl 43+, once you got devaste

- for start out at lvl one, i would advice you to go 30dex first for the 6% evasion and aim,
Mobs will hit you 3/5times, after that you go all out str, once you get to lvl 50 then go for 25spr and then the rest are str...

- learn to use hotkey and organize them, they are very effective, you should be able to get to 1-30 in a weeks, "for me i get 1-30 in 1 days"
.... that it for now, if you have anymore question... i'm here to help ...

decompose and compose is very effective ^^ hint hint ...
scroll making come first, then stone, then dec/comp, and potion come last ...

you learn as you go on in the games ...
my chararacter are all tier 3 decomp/comp,
tier 3 scroll maker,
tier 3 stone, and tier 3 potion... effective tier 3 potion for lvl 70+ b/c it hard to afford ^^

don't worry about money, you get a lot when you are at high lvl
use abbyss as a source ... don't go inthere until you are lvl 40 thoguht... b/c of the kill point, it had been abuse, wait until lvl 40 and go there, it help you lvl faster

+Rep me if i was any help ^^


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