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Vash 06-24-2007 05:49 PM

They cost too much.. I doubt that there will be 10guilds
 
500silver.. And yet it costs 50silver to buy the lv 50 skills. You need to be like lv 70 to even make a guild on your own or just that rich. >_>"

I hope they lower it to like 50~100silver.

So yeah.. there won't even be 10guilds at the end of CB. Maybe one or two since their friends pitched in.

fullback 06-24-2007 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vash (Post 1458)
500silver.. And yet it costs 50silver to buy the lv 50 skills. You need to be like lv 70 to even make a guild on your own or just that rich. >_>"

I hope they lower it to like 50~100silver.

So yeah.. there won't even be 10guilds at the end of CB. Maybe one or two since their friends pitched in.

Ya people could pitch in so it wasnt just one person paying but I hope the price lowers. But think about people will be rich in gold sometime in the future which means that its 1/2 gold to buy a guild. And since nobody has really got to an extremely high level who know what the drops will npc/stall for.

Mithikal 06-24-2007 07:34 PM

I know a few people with 100+ silver atm so technically they could form the guild now if they all put their money together. But I agree I doubt there will be more than 1 or 2 because they are only being funded by treasure chest events.

fullback 06-24-2007 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithikal (Post 1507)
I know a few people with 100+ silver atm so technically they could form the guild now if they all put their money together. But I agree I doubt there will be more than 1 or 2 because they are only being funded by treasure chest events.

There will be more because i bet the drops that you get or once your a high level the drops will npc for more which in turn will put more money into the economy.

Vash 06-24-2007 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithikal (Post 1507)
I know a few people with 100+ silver atm so technically they could form the guild now if they all put their money together. But I agree I doubt there will be more than 1 or 2 because they are only being funded by treasure chest events.

Exactly. They get like 10 pets, but they just npc for 8silver.

Dark_Akuma 06-24-2007 10:01 PM

guuilds aint implemented in cb only the ones gm do to test guild wars.

Vash 06-24-2007 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark_Akuma (Post 1558)
guuilds aint implemented in cb only the ones gm do to test guild wars.

It is.. You can make a guild if you can magically pull 500silver our your ass.

Mithikal 06-24-2007 10:48 PM

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Exactly. They get like 10 pets, but they just npc for 8silver.
From the earlier chests Xir level 4 dropped selling for 80sp each. I think GM's nerfed the boxes after that however even with them I doubt many players would get more than 1 personally.

And yeah I think that Guilds have been implemented, they just cost so damn much that none have been created apart from those by GM's.

Vash 06-24-2007 11:53 PM

Someone start kissing a GM's ass to make us a guild. *Looks around*

Fine I'll try.

Niion 06-25-2007 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Vash (Post 1570)
Someone start kissing a GM's ass to make us a guild. *Looks around*

Fine I'll try.

haha.

I was partied with chang the other day

(panties ftw)

and he was totally about to banz me cause of my name: Tranny xD

fullback 06-25-2007 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Vash (Post 1570)
Someone start kissing a GM's ass to make us a guild. *Looks around*

Fine I'll try.

your the one with the GM stalker.

Keetos 06-25-2007 03:09 AM

Anyone actually made a guild yet?

Get the 500 silver through pitching in -> Create the guild -> Implement an entrance fee to those who wants to join

You'll be getting the 500 silver in no time.

Niion 06-25-2007 03:36 AM

i've seen like 8 people with 70s blue houses :o

+Tequila+ 06-25-2007 08:01 AM

lol Niion they were prolly debuff theres no way any1 is lvl 70 XD unless they have been molestin the devs or gms...but yea i doubt theres gonna be 5 guilds at the end of CB 500 silver is jus steep way to steep...unless magically between lvl 20-XX drops start sellin for 5silver each lol:D

Blaaaaaaaah 06-25-2007 08:16 AM

Lol if the guilds are too easy to make, then there will be a lot of guilds and the "good" guilds won't be special anymore. xD Maybe it's because the economy has just started developing. Once the economy is on the run, money would be much easier to make and 500 silver wouldn't be hard to get compared to now.

Vash 06-25-2007 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by +Tequila+ (Post 1790)
lol Niion they were prolly debuff theres no way any1 is lvl 70 XD unless they have been molestin the devs or gms...but yea i doubt theres gonna be 5 guilds at the end of CB 500 silver is jus steep way to steep...unless magically between lvl 20-XX drops start sellin for 5silver each lol:D

I've seen someone with speed hack today or they were just major lagging and sped up to the spot they went to on their cilent.

Possible that item prices are cilent sided.

+Tequila+ 06-25-2007 09:13 AM

its like this...if theres no guilds at all then these so called *Good* guilds wont exist....so that means no guild wars/pvp....thus no makin a name for yourself =)

chinhchinh 06-25-2007 09:34 AM

I have 4 silver at lvl 19. :mad:

Vash 06-25-2007 10:15 AM

Spent 11silver buying two lv 20 staffs.. /cut cut

Mithikal 06-25-2007 11:27 AM

If the items where client sided only they could be only viewed with people with the same edited files as that player. E.g if I swapped the appearance of the level 1 weapon to the one of a level 80 weapon only other players who have done the same will notice.

I think it's just the boogy speed debuff that makes you go blue.

In chest events just whore Xir's level 3 sell for 14sp level 4 sell for 80.

phizzie 06-25-2007 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithikal (Post 1507)
I know a few people with 100+ silver atm so technically they could form the guild now if they all put their money together. But I agree I doubt there will be more than 1 or 2 because they are only being funded by treasure chest events.

dam i wish i had dat kind of money

That 1 Guy 06-25-2007 02:46 PM

I doubt it too, because I was thinking about starting my own guild, but then when I realized how much 500s is to me at my current state I wouldn't want to lose it all just for a guild until I got more =[

Synelia 07-18-2007 10:03 PM

somehow people are able to make 500s by lvl 40ish..I don't know how I can't even get to 30s at lvl 34 but I'm sure the people who could pull it off are fighters and clerics...they don't need to buy stones or at least not as often as I do (archer)

Skeith 07-18-2007 10:15 PM

when i was lvl 39 i got 160silvers! but claude and lild are always richer than me! lol =)

AndyB 07-18-2007 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Synelia (Post 6759)
somehow people are able to make 500s by lvl 40ish..I don't know how I can't even get to 30s at lvl 34 but I'm sure the people who could pull it off are fighters and clerics...they don't need to buy stones or at least not as often as I do (archer)

Most of my money goes into items and stones, the only reason i was able to buy my lvl 40 equipment was because of the increased drop rate during the 3x event. As for fighters not having to buy stones, thats wrong, i have to buy 40-70 hp stones every trip after soloing and thats alot of money when hp stones cost me 100 copper.

Sheapy 07-19-2007 12:24 AM

You train on the wrong things then :p

A solo trip only costs me about 10 HP pots and 10 MP stones

AndyB 07-19-2007 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheapy (Post 6788)
You train on the wrong things then :p

A solo trip only costs me about 10 HP pots and 10 MP stones

I train on the mobs that are for my repeatable quests, so obviously not the wrong mobs, I'll add that goblin captains can do 300 damage with their skill alone.

And don't even suggest not doing repeatable's as my only repeatable at the moment saves me killing 100 extra mobs each time i do the quest. When you need 500k exp to lvl you take longer trips which of course means using more stones.

Sheapy 07-19-2007 12:40 AM

Wow, Fiesta's getting more towards grind. That sucks a lot.

Revy 07-19-2007 12:48 AM

Sheapy: you know, the main difference between AndyB's and your trip-cost is that he's killing lvl48 mobs while you're killing lv28 mobs => he is spending a lot more stones on fighting. And his stones cost 2-3 times as much as yours. (in case you didn't know, the cost of the stones is increasing every level).


On-topic: i believe the 500s is fine. Yea, you can't create a guild on your own, but that's on purpose. Guilds are not for soloing roflmao.
If ~5 of the lvl40+s get together they could gather 500s in like 3-5 days. Most of the drops on that level are normal-quality, which can be sold to NPCs for 50-80c / each, (or when tier2 production will spread, they'll worth even more). And they kill a lot => loot a lot.

AndyB 07-19-2007 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Revy (Post 6793)
On-topic: i believe the 500s is fine. Yea, you can't create a guild on your own, but that's on purpose. Guilds are not for soloing roflmao.
If ~5 of the lvl40+s get together they could gather 500s in like 3-5 days. Most of the drops on that level are normal-quality, which can be sold to NPCs for 50-80c / each, (or when tier2 production will spread, they'll worth even more). And they kill a lot => loot a lot.

Don't forget tier 3 pots as well, they're a good money earner. ;D

On topic: 500 silver is fine, it's meant to get people to work together and it makes players take the guild they helped to create more seriously which will mean less guild hoppers early on.

Thats how we made harlequin, a group of us in the early to mid 30's, pooled our money together(i sold all my ingredients :( ) in order to create our guild.

Synelia 07-19-2007 12:54 AM

hmm I guess so, but I don't know x.x I think the high cost helps to keep the guilds more serious than to make a mock guild. Whenever there is a famous guild there is going to be mock guilds that are named almost exactly the same as the famous guild, but if it costs 500s that will be to a minimum.

rokaraged 07-19-2007 02:32 AM

Heh maybe for the first few months but as the game grows on, 500 silver will become a common bank account for most players. Theres no doubt we'll see more guilds start up in Cb2 for people will be less hesitant because of the economy increase..

+Tequila+ 07-20-2007 02:21 PM

hrmm after farming so much during ExP week I think i could afford a guild almost 2 if I wanted to blow money on it. But then i must get my Mithril.;)....an copycats just suck lol...so hopefully no changes will be made to the guild price in the near future

Synelia 07-20-2007 06:10 PM

500s for most people, for now, is a lot of money, no one wants to spend it if they don't have to. Less copycat guilds, less guilds to spam, etc. I wonder if there will be guild events, aside from GWs

rokaraged 07-20-2007 07:30 PM

well lets see here, i got 120 silver and i'm lvl 33 right now i just need 4 friends with about 100 silver to get a guild going. Once cb2 starts rolling people will be going beyond just lvl 30 and be able to get more silver.

Besides if they throw another increased exp/drop rate weekend, were in luck then.

Synelia 07-20-2007 09:23 PM

i doubt they will. I bet they will do another 3x exp weekend before the close of CB forever to go to OB..so people can get all their names.

Sheapy 07-21-2007 02:32 AM

They might have more GM events, but 3x events aren't likely as Synelia said

rokaraged 07-21-2007 06:10 AM

During the last 3xp event didn't a few guilds form? I.E. Oblivion.

Synelia 07-21-2007 05:37 PM

Oblivion was up a few days before I do believe. Even so, that was the only new guild I'm aware of

AndyB 07-21-2007 07:11 PM

Only non gm-made guilds so far are Harlequin, Teva, Tachoink and Oblivion. Will probably see a few more being made in cb2.


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