Repping Power
 

Does it increase with number of posts or with the amount of positive rep you have?

Both, actually.

http://www.fiestafan.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5930

That's very little that you gain, many people have repping powers which I think exceed those mentioned there. So my repping power remains 1 point unless I post 750 times/gain 100 rep/wait 150 days?

There was some rep abuse before. That rep wasn't wiped.

And yes to your question.

So if I just joined up, everyone I repped would get +1 point? Are you serious?

Actually... you might have 0 rep power... xD

Not sure about that one....

But is that a problem?

Of course it is! Nobody will ever catch up with the higher-repped.

We debated it and we left it up to the members to vote. The vote was to let everything stay.

But people who join up right now don't get to vote in that do they? They'll feel cheated when they find this out trust me.

Yes, but we have to go with the decsion that was made at that time. it would be like voting for a new president, then when someone turns 18, voting again just because they could not vote at the time they had the election.

We might in the future decide to discuss again. however, for now, we have to go with what we have.

Okay, that makes sense...but just remember that a President is elected every 4 years and not just once...so you should have a re-poll every once in a while.

I'll look into it and bring it up to the other mods, but I want to say it was around 6 months or so ago.

Yeah it's okay, I'm not telling you to have one right away. Just make sure you have multiple instances.

However, you also have to look at the fact that resetting is not fair to those that have been around for over a year. The new members are not expected to have the same rep. If we were going to reset it, the time would have been whenwe elected to changing powers.

One last doubt:
Everyone kept the amount of rep they had, but did everyone keep the same amount of repping power after the changes?

Nope. All the repping power was changed.

Okay, thanks!

lol...that vote was a joke...since most of the voters were the ones...who exploited the old rep system to get rep by spammin MoS with +rep me threads ^.~. So of course they voted to keep it.Go figure.

I was going to make a long reply to this but I figured whatever I'm going to say, you won't change your mind.


For everyone else - the last vote for this was 68.75% of the people wanted to leave the reputation the way it is. It was anonymous, even I don't know who voted what. But the decision goes towards what the majority favours. By majority, I mean the members who takes their time and put in their efforts to vote.

Edit: @Spirit: Last vote was only 2 months ago.

lol u finally get the picture.^.~ Ty for not typing some annoying wall of text trying to prove me wrong.

Doesnt matter really if its voted on or not..the ones who went on the reppin spree are majority of the voters nuff said.

I'm not talking about the repping spree here. It's just that the power of repping has been decreased dramatically. If everyone's rep could be reset, not completely, but to what it would be like with the new rules, then it's fair. Like now, I have no hope of getting the gazillion bars that Bla~ahs has (not targeting you here or saying that you didn't deserve it), even if people rep me as many times as they rep her. Understand?

How do you know how many bars Blahs has now? >.> She's hidden her rep.

At any rate, do you even need a gazillion bars?

interesting thread...

let me take both sides...

bad side: :devil:

just like what teq said, yes we did vote before, but the MAJORITY of those who voted for keeping it are the ones who has BENEFITED on that repping spree mentioned...(lol i was not that active that time)

so on what i can see recently, the staffs are doing everything to change the system, so why not think about this topic just like you guys changed the BANNING of MEMBERS rule...we dont wanna see some extreme measures before we realize something again right?? :nahnah:

good side: :angel:

for those who just recently joined this forum... we really could care less how much nuggets you have under your name... especially knowing that those people with GAZILLION(/ralath) nuggets only have that because of the said repping spree... to make it easy for you guys, you can call those FAKE REP because maybe, JUST MAYBE... they really didnt DESERVE that GAZILLION nuggets... LOL!

ALL in ALL:

lets just let the staffs RUN the show... if you dont like it, dont watch it...just like that...

:ninja:

Actually, if I remember correctly. Most of the ones with the high number of bars were pushing to get it reset. If I could find the thread, I know that i made several posts about starting it over would make it fair to all the new members. However, that was back when it was first up for discussion. The fact still remains, that those of us that have been on the forums for over a year and tend to answer a lot of people's questions, will have higher bars. My last 15 or so reps have been because I answered questions. If you are helpful, people tend to rep you for it.

Also, Vasu, the last time FF had a vote, you were a member then. And yet, you didn't vote because you weren't active at the time. That doesn't seem exactly fair either.

I think Vasu is trying to say we should reduce our "old" nuggets to wat it should be now...

so like.. if i had 20 reps.. on the old system i might have scored 4 nuggets, but on the new system its only 2 nuggets, so my nuggets should come down...

The problem is... I dont think that's technically possible for us... so it's all or nothing... 100% wipe or stay.

Vasu - surely the satisfaction of seeing people say "Thank you for your help!" in your +rep, beats the "Vasu's name is known to all" comment...?

I'm sure most if your reps are from helping around, esp wiki~

lol We stated this time and time again...they didnt change anything. Oh and yes she was one of the ones doing it ^.~.

Most people have good memories.

lol Again no point in others voting when the majority of the active members here are the ones who abused rep.

Its possible to reduce a persons rep if your admins*other then Entropy* are actually competent in using Vbulletins Admin Control Panel which I highly doubt they are.

Is that the point here? I used Blaaahs as an example. Go and pick someone else if it makes you feel better.

Like I said, I'm not saying whoever has their reps doesn't deserve them. Let me give an example. Before the change, let's assume you helped 10 guys who all repped you and thanked you for your help. After the change, someone else goes and helps the same 10 again, who once again thank that someone else and rep him/her. But this someone else hasn't gained as much rep as you for the same service despite the fact that the same 10 repped him/her.


Obviously, older members have higher reps if they've been helpful. It would be foolhardy not to acknowledge that. However that's besides the point, like I said in my example, a newbie who's been repped as much as you, doesn't get anything close to as much rep as you.

This once again Ralath, is beside the point. Yes, I was inactive, and didn't vote. And I wouldn't have voted if I was active, because neither of the two options is what I want. A wipe-out of rep is unfair to the old members who've amassed large amounts of it over time. And not changing anything is unfair to the newer members. So what I am suggesting is what Hessah said below.


That's precisely what I mean:cutielove:

Once again, I'm not battling for my personal rep. It just seems to me that you guys have introduced something that further maims the rep system. And I am certainly not suggesting that I want to become famous and renowned.

Yeah, I think if it was as easy as just reducing the reps accordingly, they would've done it ages ago....

I would think that the problem lies where not all reps have the same amount of rep points attached to it. It's not simply "She has 20 +reps, that's equal to 20 rep points".

Example: Like Spirit could've rep me a year ago and only has 1 rep points.. but 6 months later, her rep power increased so when she reps me again it would have 5 rep points.. How is an admin suppose to make appropriate adjustments to how much rep points we should've got under the new system, compare to the old system?

did that make sense?

but that's just my opinion...

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I was assuming it should be possible to do that. There will be a log of who repped you and when right? So based on that I think we can do something like an adjustment. We'll have to wait for an admin's opinion though.

Good God, why must does everyone have to make a big damn deal about green nuggets? Will these green nuggets change your life? will they take you out of your emo states and send you into euphoria? Theyre just pixels for crying out loud. They have no value.

Then why did they have to change the system? They're just pixels, so why bother if someone abuses them? I'm sorry, but your argument is way off track here.

I just dont see what the big deal is. You want green nuggets? earn it.

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Have you even read any of my posts? My bother is that I have to struggle harder to earn it than the people who already have, because the rules have changed.

I think because the rep power was out of proportion...

many of us has accumulated a lot of rep power very quickly and easily, and when we rep someone new, they pretty much got 2 nuggets instantly..

people hoo-haa about it... so they significantly reduced our rep power... but we got to keep our old reps...

Either way... I see Vasu's concern... I mean the reps are there for a visual reason, we want to keep it, because we want our help to be appreciated.. as much as "it doesnt mean anything", I still want it there... because I love admiring that people thanked me for helping them XD

If vasu's suggestion could be done, I reckon it'd be great.. but whether that's possible, we'll have to wait.

My guess is Blah and Righty wont have the power to do that, and Entropy would be too busy to fiddle that XD (look how long it took him to change our banner -.-)

Nah I havent really read it haha. But you're getting there, why complain now?

Seriuosly, the green bars mean nothing. It only means what people want it to mean. It means nothing to me, which is why mine are hidden. It does not change the person you are or the person you could become.

We also had a vote to completely do away with the repping system and it was voted to stay.

At this time nothing will change with the repping system.


Also, please remember that this is an open discussion and everyone is entitled to their opinions on the matter. It does not make them right, it does not make them wrong. To some people the repping system matters. To others it does not. Argueing over it will not change anything. It has already been determined to leave things like they are and until one of the mods or admons post something saying otherwise, it will stay that way.

Just like it is not fair to new members, it would not be fair to old members to take away their rep. EVEN the rep that was given during the abuse. It was all fun and games, because it did not matter to the people having fun. It was just another forum experiment. however, the experiment ended with some people being upset and we changed the repping powers. It was decided at that time, that the rep would stay. We will not go back and undo it. It was voted on by the people who were around when everything happened and everything changed. Simply because new members have come along (and this is not directed at you Vasu), who do not agree with it, does not mean it will change.

The poeple who were directly affected by the rep abuse or not and were around at that time had a chance to vote and voted. The vote stands. Just because you may have voted a different way than the majority does not mean that the polls were manipulated or that only those who had high reps voted to keep it. The members had a chance to speak and in fact, most of them said THEY DID NOT CARE.

So, am I to assume that the option I suggested isn't viable, can't be done? My bother (again I repeat) is not the way the poll went. It's the fact that there had to be a poll in the first place. I think that they should have changed the rep the way it would be with the new rules. And if that isn't possible...then we can't do anything except leave it the way it is, or completely remove the new repping power regulations.