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When you see a high levelled cleric in MD
you'd think GOODIES!! T2 buffs! Level 59-60! She must know what to do!!
.... WRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG!! :cries: I met two high levelled clerics in my MDs. One is 59 the other is 60. They. don't. heal. Okay the level 60 one occasionally heals but she'll heal like 1 minute later. So if you were getting hit by a mob you'd pretty much die. Then I just did an MD KQ, level 59 cleric in my party. The only cleric in the KQ. I was like yay at first. But wait. Hey! She doesn't heal! No wait. She does. But she heals herself. Wth! Everyone was telling her to heal, but she doesn't say anything. She just heals herself. I died later on, she walked right past me. If she had to go heal the tank, sure, I'll use a heart. But sif she'll heal other people. I said "worst cleric ever" in front of her. Yuh, I don't care if she doesn't rev me after that, not that she will anyway. She later says "sorry I am drawing and playing at the same time ^-^". Uhhhhhh WHY? She thinks it's cool too. She makes all these terrible happy faces at the same time. She would say aloud "-goes off to eat-" "-goes to draw-" cos it probably pisses off all of us. None of us replied her though. Half way through she's like "LOL I'm the only cleric". uhhhhhh grats on crossing the finish line. Then at the end, SUDDENLY ANOTHER CLERIC POPS UP! Where the hell this cleric have been I have no clue. She rev'd and healed though. Would've helped if she was there throughout the KQ >__>" Then that non-healing cleric died and she's like "REV PLS". lololol. I told the cleric not to rev her but too bad she rev'd her in the end. Boo. But srsly. Why do people join KQs and go afk? Or go do other things? Hell, I guess if I understand why they do that then that makes me an asshole too. |
Gah I hate clerics like that...and the little faces they do too act cute makes you wanna go rawr and football kick them into a pile of orcs. *Takes deep breath*
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And then I'll laugh like that doggy in your avatar. |
-sigh- It's not limited to high levels.
Remember people high level doesn't always equal better player. :) |
yeah true.. there are many times where i went into robo and a lvl 40 cleric sux, while a lvl 33 cleric was awesome...
i thought hving extra 7 levels.. or extra 10-20 levels would make them more experience in how to play their claracter... how wrong could i be....... |
High levels just seem better cause they have higher leveled skills that seem to make up for the 'delay'.
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I bet they got P lvled :hulksmash:
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LOL. What makes a person that's annoying already MORE annoying, is that they act stupid, and act cute, and act as if the world is revolving around them. :|
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Bad cleric D:
Unfortunately some people will always be noobs =/ |
[b]this Msg Only Apply To Cleric Who Is Selfish And Dun Like Healing[/b]
Acually it the attitude of the player.... if he/she wan to chose cleric then they must know they got to heal, nowsaday very very hard to find cleric who can heal their own party. they dun care and jus wan to save pot and stone. while the rest of the people just spam their stone and pot like crazy ..... it like 1/40 chances of getting a good cleric. they tink they can fight not just healing oni... but a good cleric must be the one who know how to protect his/her party without dieing if possible, if not dun choose cleric if they like to attack then go take fighter instead. tank until u die oso no one will say u are not a good fighter. that why in the later part cleric got a skill call sacrifice ( when die party member health auto recover)... if the cleric cant do this then can jus go and eaten up by the MD for Dinner.....
but one thing is that some player in he game always take them for granted in the end , good cleric oso become bad cleric, that why i always got the courtesy to thank them back. |
Surely no cleric is as bad as Blaaaaaaaahs:angel:
I heard Blaaaaaaaahs got her whole party killed 5 times within 1 minute *runs* |
BLAAAAAAHS!!!!!!!!!!!! I know how you feel. So since my main computer went down I play on my laggy laptop. For KQ it really only lags on entry into the KQ. I go into a MD with Spirit and Loki and they pick up two clerics for the party. I am thinking really cool cause I need the MD kill and I plan on tanking or at least co-tanking the beast.
So Of course I lag getting in and have to catch up so I use a bunch of stones and pots to get through the baddies and catch up. So all is well and good until we get to MD. I am co-tanking with two clerics in my party. I went through almost every stone and pot that I had and had to be reved twice. Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am a tank here. You are a cleric. HEAL ME!!!!!!! :hulksmash::hulksmash: I was so mad and frustrated that I just kept spamming all my skills pots stones and magic pot (which I killed all of), but in the end I got the MD kill (Loki swears she got the kill shot.) :cutielove: Ohhh and does anyone understand what Mob Control is anymore. I mean I had to kill all the mobs coming off MD as well. This getting the MD stuck has caused people not to know what to do when we don’t get it stuck. :hulksmash: Ohhh and Andromeda you can run and hide but the steak will find you. |
yeah well i got something to say on that too. clerics around may not agree but hear me out anyways i get to think i'm pretty much experienced in this matter.
First of all clerics got the worst damage output out of all fiesta classes. ''Yeah but elfenlied did KKP solo and he's pure STR!'' Yeah but he could have done it with pure INT with all the thousand buff pots, scrolls and whatever he had with him so don't get his case up. so clerics have the lowest damage outpout out of all fiesta classes. Sure they got the second best def in the game but that doesn't mean they make good tanker OR fighter. In solo a cleric is the greatest cause it can subsist for a very long time for the lowest cost of pots/stones without mentioning his pretty good def. When they get in KQ or a party, a cleric becomes the worst tanker ever and that's when the class ability and not the person's ability have to be shown. for instance a mage who got pretty good def or evasion or life or whatever can boast that he soloed 60 levels in a row. Okay! Gratsies but in KQ it's your ability to cast offensive magics that counts! Okay maybe you can deal 1000 damages with your uber fighter sword but in party or KQ whatever what you do, if you're a fighter, people will expect you to be the one to tank the mob, in short, what people call affectionally their ''meatshield'' . Now back to the point. Cleric becomes the worst tanker ever. Why? because it can't hold aggro! what's the point of tanking if it goes visit every damn mages and archers that were shooting on him before you and kill them first? ''Yeah don't you know clanks?'' okay sure sometimes in events like fight a boss i used to tank KKP alone but that is an exceptions KKP didn't stay on me because of damages but because i was the only one inside a 25 meters radius around him. But then a cleric can't tank and that's where ''the class ability'' comes in. Clerics are made with the unique ability to heal. As much as you want to fight, fighters can't heal, mages can't heal, archers can't heal so you must fulfill your healing duty! Also the level don't mean anything sometimes. It depends on the person. i met level 70+ noobs so far (no names don't worry) and i saw level 10+ that were smarter.If you need other comparisons i had a friend that used to have A+ on all his exams but he was as stupid as a door! (and for a punchline YES a door IS stupid!). so i pretty much resumed it, you got armor but because of the lowest damage you can inflict, no mobs will ever stay focused on you when he got 3 times more powerful oponnent shooting him (powerful in terms of damages) As for not being there, there are just a-holes like that. Leeching KQ's! I saw this guy in spider KQ. level 60+! hey that's a whole load of levels there he shouldn't be a noob! Nah he stand in the back of the room, shrrom there and when we go out for ultras and eventually GS, he'd go out, aggro all kinds of mobs on his way, die right next to us giving us all the mobs that were stuck and that got unstuck following him and then he goes ''rev pls... Are we getting GS?''. The type of people that only look at his own damn interest sickens me like hell! Also doing 2 things at the same time never is winner. you're less focused on the two. first her drawing would be rubbish and second her KQ would fail when she could focus on a KQ, win it, then relax and do her wonderful drawing without anyone being pissed at her! So in short a cleric is made to heal, not to tank. keep tanking for solo grinding. With that said, please don,t send me any insults or anything if you don't agree with my essay here, just say it i respect that but i don't need to be attacked. In fact i'd like positive comments about it ^^ if i get enough i might even turn this essay into a thread XD |
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uhhhhhhhhhhh, what did you just say. ......I know people get lazy when typing on these forums, but for the sake of the reader you might want type a little more so they can understand you better............Don't take it the wrong way, hell you might just be a little 5th grader Quote:
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you sure had a lot to say!! :zomg: as for the 1:40 odds of getting a good cleric, in my experience I have always had the priveledge of partying with good clerics --------------------------------------------------------------------- |
huh next time try not to triple post XD
also i didn't call it an ''essay'' for nothing |
Actually I was in a KQ today where I and one other person were the only clerics who HEALED and the other had broken her lvl 50 weapon and was using a lvl 15 mace....
I was wondering to myself if you have a lvl 15 mace. why join a KQ whe your lvl 50 ?! |
huh i really don't think it matters if that person was just healing. weapons don,t affect skills
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Next time i just post in short sentences. Thanks for the comment. P.S. And btw we venting our anger here regard to bad cleric and not commenting abt people on their way to write thread... |
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And we got MD stuck in a few seconds so she couldnt do anything and sat in a mushroom for the wholee fight... |
@wompastompa: Please do not double/triple post, use the edit button. Also, be respectful. Calling someone a 5th grader is considered an insult and will result in a warning/infraction. I understood taylor's post pretty well myself.
@Evarista's post: Yeah. Just to clear up some confusion though (I think), I'm just ranting about clerics who don't heal when they can, because I do think clerics can tank - when needed, i.e. there's no other efficient tanker that can survive the jump. I've tanked MD several times before as a cleric because we didn't have a tanker. But yeah, I'd heal my party mates any time while I'm tanking MD if they're close enough. Can't really walk around with MD on my back since it'd jump and kill everyone. I guess to me, tanking isn't all about damage. It's about holding aggro and surviving the hits. I don't use my damage to hold aggro, I use my heals. Sometimes it will take a while for me to keep aggro (MD probably runs to the squishies once or twice), but when I do, even a fighter can't kick it off me. But I realise that many clerics try to tank by using their damage. I'm not full STR so I don't know how strong clerics can be being full STR, but I don't know if it's strong enough compared to damages done by other classes. Of course, it is possible to hold aggro with your damage as a cleric, just that I think spam heal/rejuv is more efficient. But I'm not a damage build so I do jack on MD. |
I 'gree with Evarista. Kinda similiar to my party clerics guide. I'll be glad if you make a new one since I'm too lazy.
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@ Evarista I disagree with the rule that clerics become the worst tankers ever. The best clankers are the clanks that do not insist on tanking, but are up to the challenge if they are needed. And I have to say, I have met some amazing, amazing clankers that I'm sure NO OTHER CLASS would be able to beat. Not even fighters, the natural tanking class. These amazing clankers can also keep aggro very well - otherwise they wouldn't be clankers. I don't know how they do it myself, but it's amazing to see a cleric be able to handle 1987236782 mobs without dying. If you need examples, an example from abyss would be a cleric named Amis. I don't know if she plays anymore, but she is one amazing cleric. Level 51 in the 5x abyss, she went around with our three-member party (consisting of me, Amis, and a mage) and tanked nothing below seventy to eighty abyss mobs. She could heal me efficiently (I was back up tank), heal the mage (who was squishy and was drawing aggro x-x) AND keep herself alive. An example from KQ would be Blaaaahs. I'm not recommending her from being guildies, but from the truly amazing tanker she is. Here's a model of a clank who wouldn't insist on tanking, but would gladly accept the role of tanking and would tank WELL. I don't think damage means everything in a mob's aggro. It's taken that highest damage = most aggro therefore = tanker, but then why do mobs stick to clerics like glue sometimes? I'm not sure how they do it, but clankers are really amazing rulebenders when it comes to tanking. With the lowest damage and least offensive skills, they can still handle blahblahblah mob(s) on them while keeping their party members alive. I agree that clerics are made to heal, but there are clerics who actually come BEYOND just healing. They have the ability to multi-task and awe their friends and party members, so why should they stop at just healing? >note But I do agree with you on most of your post content XD Just that some clerics are exceptions. |
Also keep a look out for _coy. He's one fantastic cleric.
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huh first sorry if i sent out something totally random like an essay on you all of the sudden but it sounded like it was the good occasion to post it.
also, lightning. You are correct because there is always an exception. I myself think i tank pretty well but as you said, i don't insist on taking because i'm a much better help healing i guess. That essay i wrote was not for ALL clerics but for the very majority of them. around 10% of clerics don't belong in my essay because they are what we call exceptions but i know i should have kept it clear. my bad. Vasu, you had a cleric guide? dummy why didn't i find it? ><. I like writing essays when i can so if you need some, just say the word ^^ in the end what i was meaning to say was that some clerics forget that they are the only class that can heal,rez, cure or whatever. Also please not to mention the word ''clank'' again. It just gets on my never cause it really don't fit in my head. I mean a cleric is a cleric and a tank is a tank. (also, lookie my siggy ^^ ) |
there seem to be a lack of clerics in the level 5x level... (on teva anyway)
I've just been to 3 MDs, and none of them had more than 3 clerics... though i was lucky on the time that there were only 2 clerics, one of them was very helpful and buff / reved us that's not even in his party.. (omg he's like RARE) Anyone find that, those who doesnt heal their party, tends to be blind? Or cant read or something? How come they never respond to "Heal the party" and "stop fighting and rev"? They should just be archers and do auto attacks in a distance... And nothing wrong with the word "clank"... its just short for "a cleric that's tanking"... when a tank fails to tank (good tanks seems to be as hard to find as a good cleric) a "tank" with healing ability steps in... i also enjoy seeing tarchers... though I havent meet any lately.... |
Here you go. It's a pretty old guide, so I won't be surprised if you disagree with some of the things.
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*sigh* i loved my cleric i always spam healed stragers who needed it...in the parties that i rarely join i try my best to keep them alive noone ever said thanks hahaha instead they died and left insulting how i suck because i never rev them even when they saw how much the mobs loved me and how the mobs decided to show there love by ambushing me, they would leave not letting me rev them, tose ungratefull ...lovly people
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Many people take cleric healing for granted (hence the no thank yous) and they like to blame when they run into a bunch of mobs and died... >.>
There's no point in trying to rev someone, if you're being attack and is going to die... (i've tried that too many times to benefit anyone XD) so yeah.. dw! As long as u've done the best you can... those people need to play a cleric to know wat it's like to be one! |
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