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UserName 09-26-2008 03:06 AM

Discuss books here.
Your favorite.
Your least favorite.
Recommendations for other people.
From Comics to manga to dictionaries.
Any books will do.


Rules-
No inappropriate books.
Follow ToS.
No flaming a book.
You may disagree why you didn't like a book or thought it wasn't great.

Post away~

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I'll start off.

Well i think a great book was The City Of Ember. It makes you want to keep on reading. It also has a sequel, The People Of Sparks. You should definitely give the book a go. It had a movie about it so it must be good. It also has a prequel which is the 3rd book. People of YeonWood or something. And it has another sequel the 4th book but i forgot what its called. I'm going to go to the library and borrow the 3rd and 4th book in the series. Book is by Jeanne Duprau

I Absolutely Recommend this book.

Loveless 09-26-2008 03:15 AM

Might want to add in the author too just in case.

Let's see my favorite book is... well the "bones" series by Kathy Reichs. There are several series by her and the stories revolve around this one forensic anthropologist. She works both in Montreal and the states, wherever work calls her. She helps to solve the deaths of those who are too decomposed. If you've seen the show Bones, the show is based off this series.

Reichs' writing is just amazing. The only book I couldn't finish was Cross Bones because it didn't interest me as much as the others. Wasn't her usual stuff. :/

I've yet to come across a book I didn't like... if I didn't like it... I didn't read it.

Luna 09-26-2008 03:19 AM

Women's murder club. Simply amazing series. It's a set of 3: 1st to die, 2nd chance, and 3d degree.

Author: James Patterson

Basically..this crime investigator teams up with 3 other girls, a coroner "or so to say, forensic person", a news reporter, and a person that works with her, and files the cases. These women team up to solve murders that are occuring all over the U.S and try to peice it together before another life is taken, and they keep it on the downlow, so nobody knows they work together. Great series ;)

Hessah 09-26-2008 03:20 AM

my favourite book(s):

Tomorrow When the War Began Series - by John Marsden

A group of teenage kids went camping in outback Australia, and when they came out the whole country was invaded and was at War. Over 7 books they went around blowing up tanks, and fighting for their country, surviving as rural kids.

It's written in first person from a tough girl's point of view, so it's not all violent, lots of team work and determination, love and emotions.

I'm not a big fan of reading, but i love all of John Marsden's books.

Luna 09-26-2008 03:23 AM

Shadow children series.

Margaret Haddix

There's a population police, and because of a shortage of food nationwide, it's illegal to have a third child, so the third children team up undercover to overthrow the population police. Risking their lives for freedom -sniff-

UserName 09-26-2008 03:27 AM

^ that book sounds good.
I might try it out.


I wonder how much money i owe at the library.....

Manzcar 09-26-2008 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 234039)
my favourite book(s):

Tomorrow When the War Began Series - by John Marsden

A group of teenage kids went camping in outback Australia, and when they came out the whole country was invaded and was at War. Over 7 books they went around blowing up tanks, and fighting for their country, surviving as rural kids.

It's written in first person from a tough girl's point of view, so it's not all violent, lots of team work and determination, love and emotions.

I'm not a big fan of reading, but i love all of John Marsden's books.

There was a movie in 1984 called Red Dawn set in America with the same premise. Though it was only about 1.5 hours so I'm sure that the books are a lot better. I loved the movie. I think I will check out your Marsden series.

UserName 09-26-2008 03:29 AM

If a book has a movie it has to be good.
Even though the movie might suck.

Hessah 09-26-2008 04:21 AM

Apparently they've been talking about making the Tomorrow Series into a movie... i'm sure it'll be awesome too!! but the problem is that it's really long.. and it probably doesnt have a fan base like Harry Potter does...

but yeah.. i think that's why there's still not a movie on it..

It's the only set of books that i actually bought!




Least favourite books.. books that i was forced to read for english class.. Fat Chance was one of them.. i had no idea wat that was about...

kirbysprite 09-26-2008 05:17 AM

The Outsiders by S.E. Hinton.

Best book ever. Well, it is for me, and I hate reading.

A_Forever 09-26-2008 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kirbysprite (Post 234225)
The Outsiders by S.E. Hinton.

Best book ever. Well, it is for me, and I hate reading.

Read that in 7th grade. It is a good book, but definitely not the best. There are way better books out there. Prey by Michael Crichton, for example, is better xD!

Its hard for me to understand how someone can't like reading o-o Find a subject you really like or umm.. something and read D:! Reading is good for you!

Oh && yeahh.. I recommend Prey. I read it like last school year or something. Its kind of science-fiction schtuff. :x

Hessah 09-26-2008 05:43 AM

Maybe i'm just not good with finding a good book..

and i'm not very patient... most books like to be very descriptive and they spend 3-4 pages just describing the environment that can be "seen" in 2 seconds..

thats partly how i lost interest in HP LOL

i like books that has... more action less description. And I hvnt come across too many...

a.L 09-26-2008 06:05 AM

I read forums.

Hazu 09-27-2008 06:33 AM

^^ Um.. my fav books would be the Warriors Series by Erin Hunter. Fantastic books...about cats. ^^ lol
And any book by Tamora Pierce
Eragon, Eldest, and I think Brisinger just came out but I havent gotten to read it yet but I bet it'll be fantastic.
The OutsidersAn Otters Story (forgot author..)
Inkheart and Inkspell. Fantastic fantasy books that I would defiantly reccoment to anyone with a love for books and for fantasy.
Unforgetable not sure the author XD
TailChaser's song Fantastic, yet somewhat confusing book about a cat named Tailchaiser. Its really interesting though :3
The Sight A book about a family of wolves . Depressing and interesting @_@ first book taht took me two times to read it to fully understand it though.

lamchopz 09-27-2008 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by a.L (Post 234239)
I read forums.

LOL

My latest reading:

1984 by George Orwell: the world was divided into three superstates which were called different names but operated on the same principles. The story walks alongside Winston, an Outer Party member, who struggled to find the reality only to succumb to delusion in the end. The novel has a lot to say about the so-called revolutions that, historically, renewed the governing bodies, the consequences, the fate of the working people and the fragility of the human minds. Two plus two does not always make four. It's the tenet of doublethink. But more broadly, isn't it how we think anyway? If you have read Orwell's prose on the modern English language, you will like what he did with the Newspeak and the fantastic essay that follows the main story. There are more to discuss but I'll leave it to your interpretation.

Cheers

Esen 09-27-2008 06:47 AM

Hmm...

Favorite? Books by Anne McCaffrey maybe? Not sure, don't think I have one since I liked some books for different reasons. I like the world of Pern though. I haven't even read half of them, but I like the setting. A setting I'm willing to enjoy can reel me in even if the main character doesn't interest me. A good story helps too of course, but sometimes I'm even willing to ignore that... It's probably why I like cute simulation games.

Things set in the past are also usually fun for me, any time period will do. And by past I mean either the author chose that time period or the author was from that time period.

Pretty much any genre is good with me too~ Oh, but not horror. I don't like getting creep out. >_< If it was a short book or something, I could probably handle it, but if it's a long one, I really rather have someone else tell me what happens. xD

Least favorite I believe is The Scarlet Letter. I did have a little bit of interest at one point, but it was completely gone after a few more pages.

Ralath 09-27-2008 09:43 AM

1984 seriously scared the shet out of me. One of the most depressing books I have ever read. Though interesting point on Newspeak and Orwell's essays on language. The only one I've read is Orwell's "Politics and the English Language" and he really advocates for the simplification of English. But at the same time, I don't think he's advocating for Newspeak because he portrays it so... negatively.



<3 Anne McCaffrey. Loved Pern. Except damn Jaxom and his white dragon. He just pissed me off all the time.


Scarlet Letter should be interesting in principle. I have always been meaning to read it.

As I Lay Dying is my personal enemy. Faulkner prose? EWWWICH.

Loveless 09-27-2008 10:15 AM

I've read 1984 in Gr. 11(?) English class. It wasn't a bad book at all.

There are a lot of books that I know are good but I don't remember them at all. Went on a book reading frenzy in grade school trying to learn English...

@Hazu: My brother reads Eragon series too and he said that the latest book was really good.

Ivramire 09-27-2008 01:38 PM

Reading Steven Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen series.


Fantasy with dark undertones, set in a world/worlds where the stage of war is the way of life. One thing I always read in reviews about this series are the reviewers raving about the characterization. I'd have to agree.

The characterization in the book is so powerful that you can identify as soon as the scene shifts, just who the focus changes to and the characters are so gripping and believable that despite the multitude of characters in the books, you'll get to know them all. There are so many plot-threads to keep a hold of with different characters in different places, that some readers unaccustomed to it may get lost, but nonetheless manages to come together in the most beautiful way. Believable and exciting action scenes, intrigue, amaaazziinngg characters, the books come highly reccommended. Saving up to get the first 3 books, I unknowingly started reading the fourth first >_>

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Least favorite books would have to be the vampire series by Stephanie Meyer (don't remember the name of the series) It's not that bad per se, but after reading what some people were writing about it and what some people were saying, I expected a little bit more than what I actually got.


I found the characters impossible to identify with, -spoiler-impossibly handsome+beautiful+rich+omnipotent+sparkly+ageless demi-gods who cavort in sunlight and wrestle mountain-lions. Meyer's attempts to build Bella's character seemed a bit weak, her liking of classical music (not sure if I remember this right) [and some other media not normally liked by her peers] just seemed like poorly done name-dropping to try to create a 'unique' character. The only other character trait I noticed was clumsiness and the ability to somehow make every male around her fall in love with her.
-spoiler-

And of course, falling in love with the Gary S- ....Edward Cullen.


The writing could have also used some (a lot ) of working on but it did the job, it didn't help that Bella ended up

-spoiler-absolutely perfect herself with perfect control and lolwtfpowerslol!along of course with her impossibly genius/perfect/AHMAAAAZZZIIINNGGGG!!!! vampire-baby, whos birth scene btw remains at the top of my most horrific scenes in fiction. -spoiler-


The book was by no means the worst I've ever read, but it didn't do much for me either.

Luna 09-27-2008 03:11 PM

Ahhh -slaps Ivra's hand- Don't spoil Twilight..I haven't finished the series T_T

Ivramire 09-27-2008 03:25 PM

Totally forgot the first part >__<


I thought it wasn't anything spoilerish though.

Hazu 09-27-2008 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Loveless (Post 234831)
@Hazu: My brother reads Eragon series too and he said that the latest book was really good.


^^ YAY.

Ralath 09-27-2008 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lvramire (Post 234853)

-spoiler-absolutely perfect herself with perfect control and lolwtfpowerslol!along of course with her impossibly genius/perfect/AHMAAAAZZZIIINNGGGG!!!! vampire-baby, whos birth scene btw remains at the top of my most horrific scenes in fiction. -spoiler-

Agree about the birth scene.

Also, me no likey Eragon series.

Eragon is a little Gary Stu. Annoying as hell.

Also. I went to go see the movie.

TERRIBBBLLLLLLEEEE>.. omgar. Waste of 2 hours of my life. x.x

Loveless 09-27-2008 08:26 PM

@lvra: I agree with you on Bella's character. I was hoping for a girl who was tough and was stand alone. Y'know, having to deal with vampires and all... but nope. I could be okay with the clumsiness but really her character was annoying. Makes you wanna go up to her and slap her to get a hold of herself and stop being emo.

I haven't gotten through to book 3 and 4... but I'll be sure to brace myself for the birth scene. The first book was great IMO. But she could've definitely done a lot more for Bella...

Ivramire 09-28-2008 04:38 PM

I found it funny that as -spoiler-soon as she got married, all the humans dissapeared. No more mentions of mom, dad, normal people, nothing. It's like they vanish off the face of the earth. The series honestly felt like a giant book on wish-fulfillment, a self-insertion even. It wouldn't be so bad if some people I know would stop lauding it as the 'best book ever.' I ask them what they liked about it, the story, writing, plot, characters, pacing, whatever. The girls only said they liked Edward Cullen =/ >__<-spoiler-


Now I just have to go see the movie. Have a compulsion to finish what I start.

secbro20 09-28-2008 04:56 PM

Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.

I read it over the summer ( its about 1050 pages long) with font that is this small. Her ideas make so much sense to me. I read her other novel, The Fountainhead, first and it was very good, but no where near as good as Atlas Shrugged.

lamchopz 09-29-2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralath (Post 234941)
Agree about the birth scene.

Also, me no likey Eragon series.

Eragon is a little Gary Stu. Annoying as hell.

Also. I went to go see the movie.

TERRIBBBLLLLLLEEEE>.. omgar. Waste of 2 hours of my life. x.x

I thought the movie was ok. Waiting for the second one, actually.

Ralath 09-30-2008 12:15 AM

.____.||

I thought it was terrible.

Haha.

According to Wikipedia, it was the 10th worst reviewed movie of 2006 on Rotten Tomatoes. xD

Vasu 10-01-2008 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by secbro18 (Post 235245)
Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.

I read it over the summer ( its about 1050 pages long) with font that is this small. Her ideas make so much sense to me. I read her other novel, The Fountainhead, first and it was very good, but no where near as good as Atlas Shrugged.

I totally agree with you. Objectivism FTW! But I finished it in 2 and a half days....


I also love the Wheel of Time series written by Robert Jordan. Its a nice universe he created. It's a series of 11 books (not counting prequels and other add-ons) each of about 500 pages. Now that took all summer lol. I recommend it to anyone who enjoyed Tolkien.

1. The Eye of The World
2. The Great Hunt
3. The Dragon Reborn
4. Shadow Rising
5. The Fires of Heaven
6. Lord of Chaos
7. A Crown of Swords
8. Path of Daggers
9. Winter's Heart
10. Crossroads of Twilight
11. Knife of Dreams

I must warn people who don't like descriptive books against this series though. Take Hessah for example. If she found HP boring then I'll tell her not to waste her money on this.


I'll give a brief summary: The world is a time of swords, bows, villages etc. Among humans, there are some who can "channel" i.e they can control the 5 elements : Fire, Earth, Water, Air and Spirit. Men and women touch different parts of this power. The source that men touch is called saidin and the source that women touch is called saidar. The evil dude, the Dark One is above all these powers. His powers are on a different plane. When he breaks free of his prison, a hundred men go and manage to seal him in it again, but only at the cost of saidin being tainted, so that anyone who touches saidin for a sufficiently long time goes insane and dies. Oh well, I'll leave the rest to you.



EDIT: By the way, the books I hate most are the HP series. I mean, they went on well enough till the 4th book. From there, you can see very clearly that the book was not progressing as she had originally intended. I mean it turns from a small comedy on what we know about "magic" into some crazy sort of legacy battle against evil. There are no set laws in her world, unlike some very good books I've read like Asimov's Foundation series and Tolkien's LOTR.


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