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Carmasa 09-24-2008 04:50 AM

Ugh! >_> Annoying guilds.
 
We're in a war right now, and 15 minutes from the server check, they finally appear, and while we're only three people, they bring a whole full party, and can't 1:1. Then when I figure out, "wow, this is boring" I go to Uruga, and I see an archer in their guild who looks about my level, so he starts running away and poisons/bleeds me, and I finally catch up and stun him, he scrolls out. - -

Annoying people.

--EDIT:

My whole guild keeps saying they're running away from them, when they find someone alone.

Yami 09-24-2008 06:07 AM

Unfortunately there's guild's like that, scroll out when they can pwn you, yet they will pwn the squishies (being a mage that's usually me). A while ago there used to be a guild famous for this, but I haven't seen anyone of that guild around for a long time so I doubt it's the same guild.

Kaidela 09-24-2008 09:51 AM

Ha, the guild that was famous for that was pretty hilarious. We spent the entire time chasing them, or being chased by groups of them when we were alone. They just refused to play fair (and didn't really speak English). Very irritating, but if it's that annoying you can just not participate in the war.

Sero 09-24-2008 11:21 AM

One word ~ coward :cheeky:

Carmasa 09-24-2008 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serendira (Post 233164)
One word ~ coward :cheeky:

Smart guy. Probably the most reasonable person I've seen in a while. :cutielove:

ThEsQuIsHy 09-24-2008 10:27 PM

sounds like a buncha chicken shits :sigh::urweird:

Hraesvelg 09-25-2008 06:02 AM

I know we can't call out individuals, but are we allowed to call out guilds for this type of behaviour? It seems more of a community service. Might wake some guilds up that they're being seen for the dickless wastes of pixels they truly are. Reputation is important to some people.

Ivramire 09-25-2008 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hraesvelg (Post 233594)
I know we can't call out individuals, but are we allowed to call out guilds for this type of behaviour? It seems more of a community service. Might wake some guilds up that they're being seen for the dickless wastes of pixels they truly are. Reputation is important to some people.


Would probably be deleted because it would be seen as black-listing :goaway:


Naming a guild isn't as bad as naming the individual which is still a no-no, but they could just make another guild too >_>

300s isn't anything anymore.

Carmasa 09-25-2008 06:02 PM

But trying to save people from pussy guilds like this, isn't that like, equal to warning people about scammers?

Zodiac 09-25-2008 07:26 PM

I guess but they had a choice didn't they? Not my call really since i don't do guild anything Never found a guild that apealed to me especially since im in bijou -.-

Ivramire 09-25-2008 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmasa (Post 233763)
But trying to save people from pussy guilds like this, isn't that like, equal to warning people about scammers?


Not really.


Being annoying isn't against the ToS.

Loveless 09-25-2008 09:20 PM

Calling out guild names is considered blacklisting so in other words don't do it. You wanna call them out in shout in-game I'm not going to stop you but not in forums here or the officials.

Agreeing with lvra. Warning about scammers you're saving someone from losing out. Guilds on the other hand you're not losing anything except your temper and perhaps your time.

Hraesvelg 09-26-2008 12:53 AM

Figures.

Carmasa 09-26-2008 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hraesvelg (Post 233903)
Figures.

People can't handle being a bit offended or accused. And then with authority shielding those people, they never grow up. Blaw. Pathetic.

Ralath 09-26-2008 01:35 AM

Might as well post it on the Officials. They really don't have these rules and you'd get a wider audience and bigger response anyway.

Carmasa 09-26-2008 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralath (Post 233925)
Might as well post it on the Officials. They really don't have these rules and you'd get a wider audience and bigger response anyway.

Lawl, sn4kes [Epith] got sent to jail for doing that.

Spirit 09-26-2008 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralath (Post 233925)
Might as well post it on the Officials. They really don't have these rules and you'd get a wider audience and bigger response anyway.

It IS against the rules on the Officails also. It is considered Blacklisting or flaming and it is simply not allowed.






People can call it protection or whatever, they do not have to agree with the rule. The fact still remains that it is a rule and it will stay. Pretty sure it will stay on the officials also.

Lady-Loki 09-26-2008 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lvramire (Post 233791)
Not really.


Being annoying isn't against the ToS.

^ Apparently QFT in many forms ^

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmasa (Post 233907)
People can't handle being a bit offended or accused. And then with authority shielding those people, they never grow up. Blaw. Pathetic.

But then again, authority has protected a lot of dirtbags too, so yeah, just gotta live with the rules I guess.

Carmasa 09-26-2008 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady-Loki (Post 234430)
^ Apparently QFT in many forms ^



But then again, authority has protected a lot of dirtbags too, so yeah, just gotta live with the rules I guess.

Authority sucks.

Lady-Loki 09-26-2008 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmasa (Post 234431)
Authority rules.


fixed

Hraesvelg 09-27-2008 04:03 AM

Authority is, on occasion, a needed evil. I'm hoping Loki means rules as in "they are in charge" rather than "they are good and awesome."

Dynamics 09-27-2008 08:37 AM

I don't think blacklisting guilds would work too well. I think it's better to judge the individual rather than the group. I'd hate to be part of a guild and just get beaten on just for being a part of it.

lamchopz 09-27-2008 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynamics (Post 234800)
I don't think blacklisting guilds would work too well. I think it's better to judge the individual rather than the group. I'd hate to be part of a guild and just get beaten on just for being a part of it.

ditto

Carmasa 09-27-2008 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady-Loki (Post 234433)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmasa (Post 234431)
Authority sucks.

fixed


Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmasa (Post 234431)
Authority = shit.

Fixed.

+Tequila+ 09-27-2008 10:22 AM

lol I like you Carmasa xD. Yea authority is shit. Though lol I've never really cared about it here. All the Rage has so many rules it defeats the purpose of even having it xD.

lamchopz 09-27-2008 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by +Tequila+ (Post 234834)
lol I like you Carmasa xD. Yea authority is shit. Though lol I've never really cared about it here. All the Rage has so many rules it defeats the purpose of even having it xD.

I don't like "authority", either. Sometimes they abuse their power which causes us to rage. However, if you don't want to live in a society where everyone respects everyone and loves to maintain peace and harmony, there's no point in discussing this any more.

Without "authority", orders are a lost cause and you'd live in a jungle where survival is the only rule. With that said, even animals, believe it or not, live in some sort of structured organisations where each member understands his/her place and works to better his/her group. Example.

P.S. typos fixed. lol

Manzcar 09-27-2008 01:56 PM

I find it funny that people will complain about authority but will hide behind it when it is convenient. The same authority that people complain about is what gives order and definition to society. Police are an authority but without them society would have no controls to protect people from those that would prey upon them.

Without authority there would be no control and then there would be no guidelines. I would suggest to those that think authority is bad grow up. Without authority, rules, laws, and governing bodies then you would have no rights. Not even to live.

Think about it. Without authority chaos would reign and the people that complain about the “evil” authority would be easy prey for those that would rather use violence to settle a dispute. So before complaining so much about authority, you should remember that the same authority that you complain about is the same authority that protects you. This is of course if the authority isn’t abusing the people that they state they are protecting.

As for this site, without the authority and rules that have been put in place there would be no control and chaos would reign. Just think for a moment, if anyone could post whatever they wanted then there would be no stopping hate from taking over the site. People could post hateful offensive material against race, religious beliefs, color of skin, ethnic backgrounds, sexual orientation, and any other bigotry they wanted. Is that what you really want for this site? Does that make it better, cooler, or somehow “more now”.

How would it make you feel if people were posting hate bashing threads? Would that make you feel good about this site and spending time here?

Spirit 09-27-2008 02:22 PM

If authority sucks, then when you get robbed at gun point, do NOT call the cops, they suck remember. If a family member gets killed by a raged gunman, let it go. Don't even worry about finding out who killed them, or putting them in prison. Because that is authority and it sucks. Even if you have a wreck in a car, don't report it. Authority is shit. If someone on this forum calls you an asshole, suck it up babe, because authority sucks.

All these were examples and some may have been bad, but it is early for me.

The fact still remains, that authority is needed. You may disagree with just the rules and laws that you do not like and there fore say authority is shit, but you sure do use authority with the rules you like. You like the fact that authoirty puts price caps on products so that merchants cannot price gauge you. You like the fact that authority says people cannot just walk up in your house and take what they want. hmmm..... yet while they are protecting your rights, they are shit for doing it??

Hraesvelg 09-27-2008 05:19 PM

I think both absolute views on authority are rather naive. A careful balance must be struck. Like I said, its a sometimes needed evil. Authority for the sake of authority is oppression. It must be forever watched and pushed back by those who value freedom. Personally, I'm a bit of an anarcho-libertarian. I'll always side with less authority and interference, even though on a pragmatic basis I see the need for some sort of social contract.

If you're getting robbed at gunpoint, the cops are going to be absolutely useless. If people invade your home, cops are going to be absolutely useless. Protect yourself and your family. You cannot rely on others in this life. And frankly, if someone calls me an asshole, yeah, I'll either suck it up or return the favor. That one was weak, but like you said, you were groggy, LOL

MikeyG 09-27-2008 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaidela (Post 233132)
Ha, the guild that was famous for that was pretty hilarious. We spent the entire time chasing them, or being chased by groups of them when we were alone. They just refused to play fair (and didn't really speak English). Very irritating, but if it's that annoying you can just not participate in the war.

Mighty Army.
Poder Latino.

Lady-Loki 09-27-2008 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmasa (Post 233907)
People can't handle being a bit offended or accused. And then with authority shielding those people, they never grow up. Blaw. Pathetic.

Everyone's a tard. Just get used to it. :]

MikeyG 09-27-2008 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hraesvelg (Post 234590)
Authority is, on occasion, a needed evil. I'm hoping Loki means rules as in "they are in charge" rather than "they are good and awesome."

Agreed, I hate the pigs. Specially when most are hypocritical and crooked.
But yes on occasion they can do good, like bringing me home when i could have been passed out in a field.^^

Manzcar 09-27-2008 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hraesvelg (Post 234906)
I think both absolute views on authority are rather naive. A careful balance must be struck. Like I said, its a sometimes needed evil. Authority for the sake of authority is oppression. It must be forever watched and pushed back by those who value freedom. Personally, I'm a bit of an anarcho-libertarian. I'll always side with less authority and interference, even though on a pragmatic basis I see the need for some sort of social contract.

If you're getting robbed at gunpoint, the cops are going to be absolutely useless. If people invade your home, cops are going to be absolutely useless. Protect yourself and your family. You cannot rely on others in this life. And frankly, if someone calls me an asshole, yeah, I'll either suck it up or return the favor. That one was weak, but like you said, you were groggy, LOL

I think that you miss undertand me. I agree authority without checks and balances becomes a dictatorship which is in turn can become oppression.

But the statement used was an absolute.
Authority = bad to paraphrase

Which means all authority is bad.

Take for instance my kids. If I do not use authority over them to show them what is right and safe but allow them to do what ever they want just to try and not be oppressive, than I should allow them to play on a busy highway because they want to do it. I use my authority over them to make sure they don't do this because it is dangerous.

And to use your example the police will not be able to help at the exact point that a break-in occurs, but knowing that the authority of the police deters crime. Just think about if there were no laws, no courts, no police, and no consequences what would society be like.

Authority is not bad, but the abuse of ones authority is.


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