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Carmasa 09-08-2008 10:46 PM

Ohio woman gets life in prison for killing baby daughter in microwave oven
 
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Originally Posted by Cox.net News
In this Sept. 3, 2008 file photo, China Arnold enters the Montgomery County Common Pleas Courtroom for her trial sentencing phase in Dayton, Ohio. Arnold, 28, was sentenced Monday, Sept. 8, 2008 to life in prison without the chance for parole for burning her baby daughter to death in a microwave after fighting with her boyfriend. (AP Photo/Dayton Daily News, Jim Witmer)
09-08-2008 2:49 PM
By JAMES HANNAH, Associated Press Writer

DAYTON, Ohio (Associated Press) -- A woman was sentenced Monday to life in prison without the chance for parole for burning her baby daughter to death in a microwave after fighting with her boyfriend. Common Pleas Judge Mary Wiseman lashed out at 28-year-old China Arnold, who opted to watch her sentencing from a side room on a monitor.

"No adjectives exist to adequately describe this heinous atrocity," Wiseman said. "This act is shocking and utterly abhorrent for a civilized society."

The judge rejected a plea by Arnold's attorneys for a minimum sentence of life in prison with the chance of parole after 25 years. A jury last week spared Arnold the death penalty when it couldn't reach a consensus.

"I am innocent of these charges," Arnold said in a statement read by her attorney, Jon Paul Rion.

Arnold was convicted Aug. 29 of aggravated murder in the death of month-old Paris Talley in 2005. Prosecutors said she intentionally put her baby in the microwave after a fight with her boyfriend. The couple had argued over whether the boyfriend was the biological father.

It was Arnold's second trial. Her first ended in a mistrial when new witnesses surfaced.

Rion has asked for a third trial, saying a former cellmate who said Arnold confessed has now changed her story. Rion said he's also found additional witnesses who point to someone else being responsible for killing the baby.

Rion said Arnold loved her baby "with all of her heart and more" and regrets drinking the night of her baby's death to the point of not remembering what happened.

"We have a mother who has lost her own daughter," Rion said. "That will plague her and follow her like a shadow for the rest of her life and into the next."

Prosecutor David Franceschelli told Wiseman that Arnold has shown no genuine remorse.

"The only remorse here is she got caught," Franceschelli said.


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...How can someone... It's beyond my comprehension, for once...

Spirit 09-08-2008 10:54 PM

She got off light if you ask me. I would have voted Death penalty. How can you put an innocent child only around 1 month old in a microwave and turn it on long enough to kill it. I cannot image what that poor child suffered or how long she suffered before death finally took her.

Manzcar 09-08-2008 11:12 PM

Death penalty would have been too nice.

Blaaaaaaaah 09-09-2008 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Manzcar (Post 225354)
Death penalty would have been too nice.

.

She should be living with that guilt for the rest of life. Death would've been an easy way out for her to escape everything.

Hessah 09-09-2008 01:53 AM

At least she didnt get off for "mental illness"

secbro20 09-09-2008 03:44 AM

That's....horrible. How can someone do that?

Lady-Loki 09-09-2008 03:55 AM

I've always been floored by the horrible things people can do to other living creatures, human and animals.

Sero 09-09-2008 05:22 AM

Microwaving a baby girl? Holy shit o_o they were too soft on Arnold, she deserved death...

Now I wonder how she'll live her life in prison, how she'll feel each and everyday remembering why she's in her cell... Her baby might as well kill her in her dreams :err:

Ivramire 09-09-2008 08:38 AM

Wondering if a psychologist/ psychiatrist would be able to help someone that bad o_o

Blaaaaaaaah 09-09-2008 08:46 AM

That's why I think it's pretty scary to be a psychologist/psychiatrist sometimes, you have to try and understand people who think in the most scariest/craziest ways. Trying to understand/communicate to a mentally unstable person can't be very fun pleasant.

Loveless 09-09-2008 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by secbro18 (Post 225513)
That's....horrible. How can someone do that?

If you understood the answer to your question you'd be microwaving babies too.

I agree, death would've been an easy way out of this. Though not as bad as this two teenage boys were also caught with breaking and entering... then mirowaving the victim's cat. What goes on in their minds I do not ever want to know and do not believe it can really be "fixed".

Ivramire 09-09-2008 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 225643)
That's why I think it's pretty scary to be a psychologist/psychiatrist sometimes, you have to try and understand people who think in the most scariest/craziest ways. Trying to understand/communicate to a mentally unstable person can't be very fun pleasant.


I'm studying to be one.


Lucky me?


You learn early on that most abusers of any kind were often abused themselves. Vicious cycle.

Loveless 09-09-2008 08:58 AM

Good luck lvra... just be sure to always take nice long vacations.

Vicious cycle...? It does end somewhere and it's never a happy ending.

Blaaaaaaaah 09-09-2008 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Loveless (Post 225647)
Good luck lvra... just be sure to always take nice long vacations.

Vicious cycle...? It does end somewhere and it's never a happy ending.

By cycle, I guess he meant the both the abused/abusers will affect someone somewhere else directly/indirectly, so it just goes on and on. For example, someone crazy out there who just read about this article may have been "inspired" by it and do abusive things to others. That would've been an indirect affect.

Far-fetched example but something like that.

koager 09-09-2008 04:48 PM

not the first time, i've read a couple of these in the newspaper
there was one when the police came in and they found an arm in the microwave

Vasu 09-17-2008 06:40 PM

Well to the question of what goes on on the minds of these people, I believe the answer is - nothing. I think that they think that its perfectly normal. To give an example, around 3 years ago I thought it was pretty horrible to cheat during exams (call me a goody-goody :o). But now, I do it every other time without thinking (Don't call me down for cheating now, ok? You won't believe my college and what it puts me through). I know it seems a pretty tame example compared to roasting a helpless baby, but I used to think about it with the same degree of helplessness, frustration, and incapability of understanding, that I think of these problems with now.

DarkPysics 09-17-2008 10:40 PM

i cant belive im goina say this But..

She SHould Been Drag in the Middle of the street and Shot In the head

Luna 09-17-2008 10:58 PM

That's just awful..-wishes I could do that to my little sister-..Darn..she won't fit in the microwave...oven maybe? :goaway:

Either way..She needs to suffer for eternity...theres no excuse for harming a poor baby..not even if your bf's a dickhead. :hulksmash:

Belaslav 09-18-2008 01:54 AM

Erm. Whoa.

:err:

That's just heartless. The only way I can imagine that happening is that when those two had a fight, the baby was crying, so she was silenced... *shudder*

Panda_Bear<3 09-20-2008 04:14 AM

woah thats just sick how could anyone do that T.T ppl r retarded and weird and pshyco and just wrong and PRETTY MUCH PLANE MESSED UP IN THE HEAD >.>

+Tequila+ 09-20-2008 10:29 AM

I most likely would have voted for the death penalty as well. I believe if a human takes another humans life they should leave this world the same way as they life they took. Since this will never be the case lethal injection would have sufficed. Letting her live with her guilt is just to nice. From what I remember she showed no remorse during her trial. Too many criminals get off easy because of lawful procedure imo..but where would we be without our legal system I guess.

viasta 09-20-2008 09:24 PM

they should have tortured her, microwave her too but not kill her, just microwave her daily to see how the baby felt when he/she was microwaved. Cut 1 finger off per year to help her keep count of her life in prison

Ralath 09-20-2008 10:55 PM

Really?

We need to be sadistical and torturous in order to right past wrong?

viasta 09-21-2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralath (Post 231181)
Really?

We need to be sadistical and torturous in order to right past wrong?

yes, if someone do something bad to someone else, we'll do the same thing to that someone who did that something bad.

Ralath 09-21-2008 06:18 PM

That echoes Hammurabi's Code--eye for an eye and all that. Hammurabi's Code was written almost 4000 years ago. I would like to think society as a whole would have moved past that.

Luna 09-21-2008 06:59 PM

I think all prisoners should die... People say..let them suffer..BUT who pays for them to eat in prison? We do. Who pays for their cable tv? We do. Who pays for their excersizing equipment? We do.

All in all, WE pay for them to live the good life in guilt -.-

Death to them all, plus it will scare everyone from even commiting a crime.

crime = death.. I like it.

moparisthebest 09-22-2008 08:22 AM

This is one of the most craziest stories I've ever read. Heating someone in a microwave? That is.. insane.. and sad.
Sad that the mother doesn't even care for her own daughter.. what a maniac.
Some people can do anything these days.

@ the people that said she deserved a death penalty
I know there are death penalties in some countries. I don't live in one. But let's face it. A life is a life. Killing her doesn't solve anything. Yeah she deserves to be chucked in jail for years but killing them for the death of someone else is not the way to go. Nobody wants to die. I believe those that take revenge are just as evil as the killer.

Blaaaaaaaah 09-22-2008 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by moparisthebest (Post 231990)
@ the people that said she deserved a death penalty
I know there are death penalties in some countries. I don't live in one. But let's face it. A life is a life. Killing her doesn't solve anything. Yeah she deserves to be chucked in jail for years but killing them for the death of someone else is not the way to go. Nobody wants to die. I believe those that take revenge are just as evil as the killer.

Well said.

If we do the same thing as a criminal does, that would make us just as bad as the criminal themselves.

You're suppose to learn from history, and not repeat it.

Fighterboy 10-18-2008 02:42 PM

Microwaved baby......what the heck was wrong with that lady i feel bad for the baby.Death penalty for her.

Phantom Badger 10-18-2008 04:45 PM

Oh god....

This reminds me of something I heard a year ago about two teenagers covering a puppy in paint and cooking it in the oven alive...Just for fun.

some people are sick beyond comparison

IcED 10-19-2008 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by moparisthebest (Post 231990)
@ the people that said she deserved a death penalty
I know there are death penalties in some countries. I don't live in one. But let's face it. A life is a life. Killing her doesn't solve anything. Yeah she deserves to be chucked in jail for years but killing them for the death of someone else is not the way to go. Nobody wants to die. I believe those that take revenge are just as evil as the killer.


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Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 231995)
Well said.

If we do the same thing as a criminal does, that would make us just as bad as the criminal themselves.

You're suppose to learn from history, and not repeat it.

I definitely agree with this.

Taking another life is not going to make the baby more or less alive, it'll just add more bloodshed to the already grisly case.


Killing because someone got killed, and getting killed because you killed...
When is it going to end?


I think putting her in prison in life is actually a better choice, at least she could comprehend her murder and reform herself, rather than having her die without guilt for what she did.

Blood Raven 10-19-2008 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Luna (Post 231732)
I think all prisoners should die... People say..let them suffer..BUT who pays for them to eat in prison? We do. Who pays for their cable tv? We do. Who pays for their excersizing equipment? We do.

All in all, WE pay for them to live the good life in guilt -.-

Death to them all, plus it will scare everyone from even commiting a crime.

crime = death.. I like it.

Sad thing is there was two studies going on....

A) The study of cost of lethal ejection vs living in prison forever.

~Supposedly it costs less for the people to pay for somebody to live in prison forever than to pay for the drugs, doctors, officials, guards, and the rest of the people involved in a lethal injection ceremony (right word?).

B) What is the reaction to most doctors when asked to participate in a lethal ejection.

~Most doctors believed if they participated in a lethal ejection that they would have taken a hypocritical oath and felt that nobody deserves to die with a doctor allowing it to happen. So doctors don't wanna administer the lethal injection...

So either way it still stinks...It is harder to kill somebody instantly and it still costs lots of money either way. I won't say my personal opinion but people are tormented in this world. People who seem to us as mentally instable, to them, they are just trying to be sane from the torment they are going through or at least are trying to manage their anger.

Its a cycle of torment that leads to torment. I am not sure how to "correct" this problem in the world and I am sure if I did then I would be a millionaire. But...society will always have its problem due to the .1% that "mess" up everybodys' lifes.

Vasu 10-19-2008 08:36 AM

^ Hippocratic. Not hypocritical lol.

Anyways, why lethal injection? Just shoot 'em in the head if you're gonna kill them. (This doesn't mean I advocate the death penalty.)

Ralath 10-20-2008 01:06 AM

It's actually the cost of appeals, trials, and legal fees that tend to make the death penalty cost more, not the penalty itself.

Hyper 10-20-2008 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Carmasa (Post 225340)
...How can someone... It's beyond my comprehension, for once...

You took the words out of my mouth.

Deathsentenceplz.


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