i swear i want to make a rage topic every time i KQ on my cleric
 

omg, i don't know why i put myself through this D:. i should stop doing KQ's all together on my cleric. i'm only up to gold hill but i can't stand the noobs D:.

like tonight, i accidentally afked at the beginning (was putting in laundry, thought it wouldn't start for a while <_<) but i wasn't that long i guess and got a party. it was one mage and three tanks. that's a fine party for me. i figured it might be a bit tough keeping up the heals since all the fighters will probably want to tank and the mage might accidentally draw aggro sometimes. but ok, i figured i could handle it.

points to whoever knows already what my problem is going to be xD





so everything seems to be going well. they got the key just after i showed up and we went back to the gate. there were only a couple fighters really tanking and they were easy to heal. but then the trouble starts. the mage starts hitting stuff before a fighter can get to it. i try to heal him and keep up. he's a mage so he's taking a butt load of damage D:. but yea it seems ok, but of course he can't be content. he started saying "heal". yes, this does annoy me, you have no idea how much it annoys me when none tanks start saying this AND DON'T FREAKING TRY TO STONE. he would seriously let himself get so close to death waiting for a heal instead of stoning.

ok, i let it go and kept along my merry cleric way :laugh:. so we get to this one part where i'm casually healing, not much going on, then i start seeing his health go down. i start healing him but his health is going down really fast. then his health stops going down... THEN MY HEALTH STARTS GOING DOWN. this noob ran through a bunch of skeletons and like an idiot i healed him. so now i'm being chased by a bunch of skeletons, i'm frekaing lvl 23. i had to run away and heal and invinc myself so i wouldn't die. luckily a fighter got them off me but while i was healing him a couple started hitting me again but it wasn't as bad.

but now everyone in my party is taking damage, including me. then, he says it again, "heal". :hulksmash::hulksmash::hulksmash::hulksmash: i wanted to hammer him so bad:devil:.

at this point i decided he was definately last on my list to heal, BUT THAT $#@%@#$$#@!% JUST WOULDN'T DIE D:<.
i wanted him to die so i could say "oops, sorry, couldn't get to you, was busy keeping the @#$% tanks alive instead D:<"

grrrr

oh but no, it didn't end there, that would just be too easy ._..

so we open up the gate and it's marlone of course. and this idiot mage runs straight at him then starts running back. out of instinct i jump to the side but luckily a fighter got it before any harm was caused.

so going along just fine, the tanking fighter is in my party and i'm happily healing her and relaxing :cutielove:. marlone uses his aoe and everyone can tank it:cutielove::cutielove: so i start healing everyone in my party back up and counting along 1, 2, 3, 4.... 4? 4!? FFOOOOUUUUURRRR!? THAT $#%!@#$%#@ MAGE WTH ARE YOU DOING GET THE $#%@!#$%@#^@ AWAY FROM MARLONE D:<. yes, he was freaking standing next to marlone and, as i found out later, was doing it to magic burst spam.

ok, so we get past that. on the next level he's still saying "heal". me: oh what's that? that fighter's hp just went down by half a point? oh my, he could die, i better heal him D: *ignores mage*:nahnah:

darnit, some other cleric healed him :hulksmash:

so we get to the boss. that great fighter was tanking again. that mage is down there using magic burst again but this boss has no aoe:cutielove:

*heal heal heal* *singing* "oh i'm so happy to not have to heal the mage, so happy, so happy, so happy:cutielove:"

so someone else's hp went down in my party. me: hmm, it must've changed targets D: *clicks and heals other person without thinking*

o: like half his hp exactly

wait a sec, why is the other fighter's hp still going down at the same rate... :hulksmash::hulksmash::hulksmash: WTH, MAGES GET LIFE TAP ALREADY D:<? $@##$^%$#@@#$%$#@^$

*stops healing mage*

*mage's hp starts going down again*

crap boss actually did change targets to him this time D:.

dilemma D:

i could let him die bu then boss might go wild and might kill me too D:
or i could heal him like the good cleric i try to be...

D: i shouldn't have healed him but i did. and i had to keep healing cause no one else noticed it changed targets. of course, the tank you're targeting's health stopped going down because he's managed to block 5 hits in a row
/sarcasm

so finally the tank gets aggro back and i reluctantly heal the mage's hp back. he does the life tap thing again and i refuse to heal. then the boss is dead and he runs and gets the door. he's saying "heal" again now.

i stand next to him and do nothing:cutielove:

then another cleric comes and heals him again <_<

i hate being a cleric in KQ's, but i need that xp D:

Oh god you crack me up so bad. HAHAHA. That mage just wouldn't die! Shame on you, can't even manage to kill your party members as a cleric! You're supposed to determine their lifespan! HAHA!

I take aggro on my mage a lot too but I don't go around demanding clerics to heal. Boy I know how annoying it is to heal mages who die fast myself.

HAHAH!!!!!!!!!!! Destrus you're hilarious!

I hate people demanding for heal too.. like.. demand unreasonably.. Hello... i've got 3 tanks taking AOE hits.. why is that mage/archer standing right in the AOE taking hits too?

should see me in KKP... though usually i dont really have to "heal" the mage coz.. they just get 1HKO LOL!!

and ZOMG mage with lifetap... u know wat.. i would've just let the mage die at that point... the robber can run after me and i'll use a heart... but i'll just let that mage die.. seriously...

truth is i would've let him die way back at marlone... I'm pretty good when it comes to not healing the ppl i dont like...

this lvl 3x cleric demanded for a party in AEW last night... i thought "Pssh i dont do plvling" but my party member (who i just met for the greenkie quest) invited....

well! lets just say that little cleric died 3 times that night and i didnt once revive her... :devil: too bad the other cleric is too nice and did all the hard work in reviving... but i'm sure the exp we got her would've covered for the deaths...

Oh! but the satisfaction of seeing stupid noobs die :devil:



Why are there all these other nice clerics around when u dont want them there.. and when u need a nice cleric.. they're nowhere to be seen?

yea, i know, i have to beg for a rev half the time but when i want someone to die here comes mister nice guy with the heal D:<

TRUEEEE!! D:

Hahahaha :nahnah:



Think I got spoiled as a Cleric o_o


Yos never used Life-Tap. Now everytime someone does it, even when I'm not playing a Cleric, I freak like hell and rotate my screen 360-degrees.


Boo for life-tappers Dx



There must be a law for that.

I do that too... I did it when I was playing my Fighter (even though I can't heal) and do it when I'm playing my Cleric (and ingore the mage doing it in the middle of an AoE)... T__T Heart skips a beat and it isn't a good thing. ><

why would a mage use lifetap in the middle of an AOE? seriously...

but then again.. usually if that happens i just assume they got hit...

You see that's what I thought until I saw the flashy red ring around them... and so I just thought "psh, screw that you can use a stone". xD -goes off to heal the tank-

But I feel for you Destrus... I feel like making a rage thread every time I do a KQ. -sigh-

Let the mage die. D<

yeah gold hill KQ has gotten bad
I never had problems with it on my mage but now I'm getting a 50% fail chance
either fighters don't tank so the key isn't found/everyone dies off
or pretty much everyone goes to try tank marlone......:goaway:

That's kinda...sad.


Only KQs I remember failing are the ones where the key goes to an afk or noone picks up the key that they found and just runs to the gate -.-

am I not suppose to life-tap in KQs?
I burn my sp really fast but I only do it in between fights when safe
and I'd generally either shroom afterwards if not moving, stone/pot mobs coming up, or just leave it while traveling around the map.

being a cleric is hard
you have to heal, run, and rev all at the same time x(
I hate it when people spam rev while they're dead when clerics are busy trying to keep the tank alive.
People in Robo are extremely rude also. They flame clerics for not rev'ing and focusing on them when they are busy rev'ing others and there's a 30 second cooldown on revive or busy running.

not sure if this is getting off topic or not but...
I always feel bad for using life tap when partying with a cleric
with a cleric grinding is so easy but again I burn SP really fast
I generally don't notice it until I'm a bit below half or really low thus I life-tap every 15 seconds until I'm back up to 80%
I feel bad that the cleric has to turn around and heal me that every 15 seconds even though its during a break time from grinding

wasnt there another spider KQ thread about mages aggro'ing, running away, and the stopping to use lifetap? That is lol xp

one would think that by the time of Gold Hill people should know how to be decent citizens of Fiesta and know how to play their class.

(so many nubbies in LS last night D: they were just KSing everything and everybody. I told them to stop and their reply was "No. I need it." :goaway:)

no pls, i'm gonna have a hard enough time with the archer job change in two more levels:cries:

I'm gonna quote this too because I have just recently finished the job change and it is horrible as a cleric. At least all the other classes have some sort of AOE skill. With a cleric since you can't heal them you can't do anything but attack each separate enemy until they are all attacking you!! So yeah I definitely agree everyone should have to go through that because until you experience that you have no idea what its like.

And as a side note:
I don't think it is fair to use life-tap all the time as a mage for a cleric to heal you. So apparently a cleric has to use stones all the time just to keep your lives up when a mage could just use a stone him/herself for the same purpose?? Doesn't seem very fair to me. Every once in awhile is ok, but a mage should at least be considerate enough to use a stone every once in awhile instead of always relying on the cleric 'to take care of him/her'.
When someone will completely rely on someone else(such as a cleric) to keep them alive and will complain when they die because they are too proud to use a stone themselves and rather die and blame it on someone else then I don't believe that is a very good player... And it seems with the mage you encounters that seems to be the case:goaway:

I guess talking about how evil life-tap is for Clerics isn't so OT because it was also raged about in OP :nahnah:


From the Mage point of view though, I guess that as long as you let the Cleric know and not abuse the skill, that life-tap isn't that bad. Even before they buffed-up Heal's potential by making it enpowerable, the off-set between the small amount of SP the Cleric uses for the large amount of HP it restores + the potential benefit to party-dynamics and working for a party that works well together is a good thing.


Even consider the mechanics of stone usage. Clerics and Fighters have a much larger capacity for both kinds of stones than Archers and Mages. To offset the Mage's lower SP stone count, he/she can life-tap with the Cleric's consent. The Cleric thus sacrifices SP stones of their own/ time shrooming, but this is offset by the low amount of HP stones the Cleric uses so it balances out anyway.


Then again, most if not all complaints about life-tap comes about Mages who use it unexpectedly/ at stupid times, so I guess the point is moot >__>

I've actually used a good deal of HP stones while being a cleric because if the mage is tanking then its necessary because the mage is getting hit so much that you need to constantly heal them and don't have enough time to heal yourself. And because of the range of most mage skills, they can't AOE everyone even at the higher levels(depends on how many enemies you are trying to kill at the same time) so to actually do your job as a cleric you actually do need to use a lot of HP stones suprisingly.

I guess my point is(speaking as a cleric) why can't mages specifically use stones when necessary or at least most of the time. When I party with those kinds of mages then I think they are the best ones out there because they can handle themselves when necessary and don't need to completely rely on the cleric to take care of them. Of course like I said there may be points where the cleric has to heal the mage constantly but sometimes depending on the enemies that might not be enough and the mage might have to use a pot or stone to help out a bit.

ok yes i do sometimes shout heal but thats generally cause im a tank and might be in a bad party :| which in all honesty does happen, plus its only with large amounts of mobs i happily stone :D
So yea sometimes clerics arnt what they should be, but from the sounds of it you did great :nahnah:

Gold hill is that bad?
For me its great.
I can get in two gold hills in one hour and complete it.
What letter do you have?
I found that the firsts letters have better people.
Idk why

That varies on the high level KQ because on the lower ones usually (at least when I played those ones) there were so many people trying to join the highests letters such as [A] or [B] that only the people with the fastest connection got in first. And most of the time at least a couple of them were fairly competent players.

I don't know about other clerics guess I just feel like I get picked on a little bit because I don't have any AOE skill to get enemies...:cries:like last night I was grinding to kill shrooms in uruga and some guy with a party of 4 just comes and takes all the enemies in my area. I asked him once if he could plz stay over further because I had been there awhile...but nope just goes and steals all the enemies. Not to mention when I actually DO grab some enemies he just goes and takes them from me even if they were only like 2 or 3 of them. There were a couple times I stole some of them back by healing him a bunch:laugh: but definitely not nearly as effective. And then I look and he has like a lvl 5 party member too....seriously?? Not trying to be mean towards a guild but I'm not sure what kind of people Alliance (was the guild 2-3 of them were in) invites to their guild if all they do is KS from other players.:sigh:

On my cleric, I always asked my party to pot and stone "in case I'm busy healing the others" right at the beginning of KQs. It's been working out well. I felt bad when I had to tell archers and mages to back off every time they tried to take the mob thinking they were covered. I had problems with people who didn't have sufficient def but attempted to tank. It got fun when 3 of them took charge at the mob in 3 different directions. lol... I didn't know which of laughing and crying was a more appropriate response, but heck, it cracked me up so bad. LOL

I tend to laugh in KQs because, to be honest, I was a noob and still am so I kind of sympathised with the way new players act. I mean not knowing is not a sin. The only time I got so mad was an opportunistic archer in a Slime KQ. He waited for the mob's health to drop and then started to shoot in order to get the kill. There were only 5 of us in the KQ and I was the only cleric. Miraculously, we managed to get to King Slime but time beat us. And yes, that archer was on my permanent blacklist (in which he reigns as the one and only one) even though, sadly, I healed him sometimes when he accidentally aggroed. And I really wanted him to die... ah well.

i HATE LTing mages, i let them die..:cutielove: bc my clerics name is "no_heal_4_u" it means what its name is lol, mages begging for heals bc they got 'hit' for standing in aoe range or LTing, i wont heal 'em, thats what stones are for, plus LT mages are dumb, yes i myself am a mage and NEVER use LT, its conversion sucks...yes i spend alot of $ on stones, but i also keep a stack of t2/t3 sp pots on me at all times, therefor i wont run out of sp anytime soon :P ide only LT if i ran out of sp stones/pots, but i wouldnt demand a cleric to heal me