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Hessah 08-28-2008 02:29 AM

Kkp Kq...
 
Sort of glory.. but not really a rage... hmm just another KQ talk... (not sure were to put it)

Background:
So the cap raised, they added KKP Room B, make KKP harder, Phinofly hits harder (from 50 dmg to like 500 dmg -.-)

Lost all the experienced players left.. the room hardly ever fills now.. i always join at 8.04 for the 7.05 room -.-

So overall, a KQ that use to finish in 20 mins, now takes 45-50 mins to finish..

Story:
So Blaaaahs has been boosting about how she tanked MD, and all the other fighter sux, and she was the only one in the KQ that can tank... and i thought.. damn i thought i got to try that....

now i do... in KKP... you can hardly ever find a fighter that's willing to scroll up... we had 2 clerics in my party last time.. and both of us couldnt keep him alive... he must hv died at least 15 times in the last 30 mins... (takes 30 mins to kill KKP now! :cries:) when he dies he goes after all the DPSers and kills all the DDers in 1 stomp....

so guess wat... I stepped in and took control...

thank god there's plenty of other clerics to revive others so i didnt have to look after them.. i just concentrated on the bash cool down... and heal myself...

I think i tanked KKP for the longest out of everybody else in that KQ so far... but still died eventually coz of the stupid dmg delay -.- (where KKP hits u and u cant heal / stone / pot for 2-3 seconds)

I think people were giving up hopes when we had 8 out of the 10 ppl lying on the floor... but being able to hold KKP for 5 mins (felt like 20) gave ppl room to gather again and hammer it down

we finished that KQ with about 5 mins to spare... LOL!!

Loveless 08-28-2008 02:43 AM

Ohh nice~

Yeah, stupid Phinofly hits like a ... that she is. And that delay has killed me more than enough times... for me to not even bother scrolling cause I get killed anyway as soon as the mobs spawn (and I only have t1 on me anyway). I do have to agree, since the cap raise the people who +9'd their whole set left so... we're left with those with "normal" stats (whatever normal is nowadays). I'm not going to really bother joining KKP until I'm like 75+ when I know that I'd at least be able to take hits with a bit more breathing room.

Hessah, can I hop on to Teva to join KKP? :P

Blaaaaaaaah 08-28-2008 03:03 AM

^ Loveless you should just migrate to Teva altogether!! Make an alt there. xD

But yeah, nice! Clankers in emergencies ftw~

Hessah 08-28-2008 03:06 AM

yeah! well to keep the KQ going i scrolled up even though i died 2-3 times..

but then.. I make my own scrolls so i guess its cheaper for me..

but if that fighter who's pretty much the only fighter there that can tank.. scrolled up, the KQ wouldnt be so messy... but oh well.. now that i know i have potential to take control of KKP... I'm not actually too fuss XD

just need to +9 my armours too now LOL

and Yes I give u permission to join Teva KKP XD Will give u a personal party invite too!

Loveless 08-28-2008 04:37 AM

Yay! I don't mind migrating to Teva if I can bring all my stuff over from Epith... AND my whole guild. xD

Well, the thing is that I'm not exactly at the top of the list of potential tankers cause I know that the other fighters are higher level than me and on top of that use extenders. Yet I end up being the one to pull the mobs down the long winding paths... but I totally ignore when Ghost Slime spawns... xD 'Cause my M.Def sucks.

Hessah 08-28-2008 04:42 AM

LOL i stay away from ghost slime too.. he's killed me too many times!!

and i love it when he gets stuck on the hill HAHAHAH

Loveless 08-28-2008 04:45 AM

It also has this uber AoE at times where you're like half a map away from him and he stuns/damages you. T__T Delay much?

Y'know what, FF should just have our own server. That would make KQ life easier... srsly.

Hessah 08-28-2008 05:00 AM

give us a 5th server...

Epith
Apoline
Teva
Bijou
Awesome FiestaFans

Blaaaaaaaah 08-28-2008 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 218913)
give us a 5th server...

Epith
Apoline
Teva
Bijou
Awesome FiestaFans

That'll be completely forum-ist but ok!

Yami 08-28-2008 08:39 AM

Count me in! XDDD

a.L 08-28-2008 08:42 AM

Or a server that requires an IQ test upon character creation.

Loveless 08-28-2008 08:47 AM

That would be a rather lonely server... not enough to get a KQ half filled.

a.L 08-28-2008 08:50 AM

It's a sad, sad world...

Hessah 08-28-2008 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loveless (Post 219054)
That would be a rather lonely server... not enough to get a KQ half filled.

so true.. we dont hv enough ppl to fill the KQ even with low IQ people -.-

a.L 08-28-2008 08:56 AM

Not that a FF based server would have many people either...

Yami 08-28-2008 09:03 AM

But at least it would be competent players playing. And friendly players.

Loveless 08-28-2008 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yami (Post 219062)
But at least it would be competent players playing. And friendly players.

Very true. And that is the important thing. xD

a.L 08-28-2008 09:07 AM

And watch a load of people flock to this site.

Yami 08-28-2008 09:18 AM

They'd have to go through a selection/screening by us first XD

Kaidela 08-28-2008 09:40 AM

Yeah, KKP totally sucks now... I was shocked when I came to do a KKP about a week after the cap raise and it failed. I didn't think I'd ever fail a KKP... but it happens all the time now. And we have to sit in Eldy or Uru and shout begging people to join for at least a half hour. :\

Ralath 08-28-2008 03:56 PM

You guys were too spoiled with all the capped players. xD

Loveless 08-28-2008 05:39 PM

That might be true... but there are people close to it now too who are unable to function.

Hessah 08-29-2008 01:54 AM

i love being spoiled :sad:

Triumph 08-29-2008 03:49 AM

That's because the tricks to the trade diminish greatly with each successive generation. It would be interesting to model if provided the data, so I'll assume that each successive generation depreciates such that depreciation d equates to the original depreciation, valued at 15, with d+5n percent per successive generation n, so that:

Efficiency = 100 - (15+5n)

Meaning:

1st Generation: 100% efficiency. CB1 only.
2nd Generation: 85% efficiency. CB1 and/or CB2.
3rd Generation: 65% efficiency. OB with cap at 59.
4th Generation: 40% efficiency. OB with cap at 79.
5th Generation: 10% efficiency. OB with cap at 89. (current)

Let's be realistic. How many of you are willing to grind for ten hours for one level? Not many, right?

Therein is why successive generations fail. They lack the experience derived from the truly extensive gameplay the first generations experienced.

We leveled without many greens, without high enhancement, without the Cash Shop, without the quests, without the money, without the abysses, without complaints. The only thing we had was GM care.

You guys have it all, you realize. Yet not only do the younger generations complain, they also manage their resources poorly. It's a pity OB players never got to experience the caring GMs who didn't interact with players on just the first day of a major patch, but interacted daily, sometimes enhancing for players for no charge. Of course you'll argue that it was CB; nevertheless, however, I highly doubt you'll see Dakkon handing out free buffs. No, he talks with those who suck up and preens himself.

I sound old. Not to mention math geek-like.

But welcome to the truth. Doubtlessly this post gets ignored by all except those who can truly understand.

:cutielove:

Belaslav 08-29-2008 04:02 AM

Wow. You underlined the problem and even put it in math terms.

You left something out though.... This:

The more people play = The more they know and faster will get bored = The less parcentage of people staying to continue grinding.

Hessah 08-29-2008 04:13 AM

Totally disagree but i wont bother arguing since that's not the point of this thread

my point was i never got to tank a KQ boss.. and i got to do it in KKP now and i'm happy... i believe anyone who tries and stock up will be able to do the same thing too

Belaslav 08-29-2008 04:16 AM

Ooooooooh.... Sowwy to steal your thunda. :smile:

Hessah 08-29-2008 04:19 AM

I was directing it at Triumph's Generation stuff.. not you Bel =D sowwie

Ralath 08-29-2008 06:34 AM

Made up numbers for the lose? =/

Dynamics 08-29-2008 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yami (Post 219062)
But at least it would be competent players playing. And friendly players.

unfortunately an IQ test wouldn't measure for assholes

Hessah 08-29-2008 06:54 AM

HAHAH!!!!!

omg never thought of that... :sigh:

Aoes 10-01-2008 01:36 PM

Waitaminute! Isn't there a way to jam little mister dragon in between rocks?
Someone told me about it and they basically managed to run MD inbetween the rocks so he couldn't attack..
(Still takes ages to kill >.<)

Loveless 10-01-2008 02:05 PM

Please do not necro post. Check the date of the last post first, anything over a month old is considered 'dead'.


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