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kirbysprite 08-17-2008 02:15 AM

Robo is one of THE HARDEST KQS EVAR!!!!!
 
Okay, join Robo. We have about 12 clerics or something. I have a great feeling we can win it. We have success but I'm dead so no chest.

Another time, I join I see Serodin's alt. I have great confidence in this on too. We succeed but I'm dead... FREAKIN!!!!!

Man, it's so hard. I can't even rev my party because it's so choatic!!! The last time I went into Robo and it was about to end. This fighter said, "You clerics only care for yourselves." Then leaves the party. C'mon... I rather would revive a cleric outside of my party then a fighter that's in my party. Man, I only completed Robo once, without me dieing at the end, and I got a level 40 +3 mace. But I need exp.!!!!

Andromeda 08-17-2008 02:20 AM

Actually Robo KQ and Spider KQ are the 2 easiest KQs.

You only need a Speed Scroll then start running :D

Watch where the enemies are spawning as you are running in circles and you won't have a problem. Seriously Speed Scrolls make that KQ so easy to solo.

kirbysprite 08-17-2008 02:25 AM

This one person said:

The Speed Scroll is *****!!! It does do anything!!!

And Slime was actually one of the easiest for me...

Loveless 08-17-2008 03:21 AM

No, it's not the hardest. It just collects the not-so-bright crayons. So it's like a very dull box of crayons. Yup.

I do miss doing Robo in BK. It was so easy... mobs were dead before you even knew what was happening.

Hessah 08-17-2008 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andromeda (Post 211956)
Actually Robo KQ and Spider KQ are the 2 easiest KQs.

You only need a Speed Scroll then start running :D

Watch where the enemies are spawning as you are running in circles and you won't have a problem. Seriously Speed Scrolls make that KQ so easy to solo.

I tried to run a failing Robo by myeslf with speed scroll (T1)... doesnt work.. the vivis and archers spawns from all 4 sides so they come at you from an angle...

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbysprite (Post 211959)
This one person said:

The Speed Scroll is *****!!! It does do anything!!!

And Slime was actually one of the easiest for me...

Speed scroll is sooooooooo useful!! always have it esp when u're running.. the mob will never catch up with you.. without speed scroll they'll catch up and hit you for sure... it's always those without speed scrolls that dies first

and u're right.. revive other clerics first.. more cleric = more rev = more heal...

in the last wave of robo, it's always yourself first, others after.. that fighter was just a whinger... more than often, if you stop to rev someone, you end up getting killed yourself... always watch all directions while you're reviving.. if u see mob heading your way, run... RUN!!

you'll succeed better if you learn to look after yourself first... its good to heal party.. but a dead cleric is no good... so make sure u keep yourself alive as much as you can

Lexaeus 08-17-2008 03:31 AM

Kirby I know your pain. I did my first robo kq and it was all going fine but robo lost aggro from a fighter b/c I was spam healing her and got heal aggro and robo 1 hit ko me and I had no hearts with 3 seconds left. I got reved 8 seconds after the kq got a success and didn't get any exp. Robo I find easy if your kq consists of people who know what they are doing.

Sero 08-17-2008 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbysprite (Post 211952)
Okay, join Robo. We have about 12 clerics or something. I have a great feeling we can win it. We have success but I'm dead so no chest.

Another time, I join I see Serodin's alt. I have great confidence in this on too. We succeed but I'm dead... FREAKIN!!!!!

Man, it's so hard. I can't even rev my party because it's so choatic!!! The last time I went into Robo and it was about to end. This fighter said, "You clerics only care for yourselves." Then leaves the party. C'mon... I rather would revive a cleric outside of my party then a fighter that's in my party. Man, I only completed Robo once, without me dieing at the end, and I got a level 40 +3 mace. But I need exp.!!!!

All we needed was a runner. Just like 80% of all Kingdom Quests I join on my alt, everyone plans on killing Millennium Robo first, then when the clock hits 7:30 everything gets chaotic as no one chooses to run.

That time only like 4, maybe 5 people won? I was dead too, so was my whole party >_>

All I need is the kill then I can go happily leveling to 43 <_<

Andromeda 08-17-2008 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 211994)
I tried to run a failing Robo by myeslf with speed scroll (T1)... doesnt work.. the vivis and archers spawns from all 4 sides so they come at you from an angle...

T3 is far more useful for this...

As for combating that make sure you are on one side of the room so you can pull 2 of them into the train easier. Then go to the other side and pass one of the others that came from the corner. To take care of the last one run directly into it and keep running. You are going to get hit but its the best way to get through them just use HP stone or cleric can use run and heal.

Ralath 08-17-2008 04:35 AM

Robo KQ is not hard. I remember I used to have great success in Robo B (lawl). But now... the players are just selfish and greedy and don't know when they should play it safe and just run and when they are actually able to take down Robo. =/

Next time, just volunteer to run. Chances are... not many other people will. =/

Loveless 08-17-2008 04:39 AM

I remember when I was able to survive hits from Robo... I'd keep running. If I saw the clock pass the 3:00 mark I would not stop no matter what people said cause I know they can't kill it without killing everyone else as well. I kept running even when Robo was the only thing left in that room...

-kick run kick run- No, you can't take the aggro off me. >D

Kaidela 08-17-2008 04:52 AM

What makes Robo hard is the idiots who ruin it. Like the people who INSIST we can kill Robo, even though everyone is dying.

And for a while, every kq I joined had the same level 4x fighter who refused to run (even when he was the only fighter who could do it), and insisted he had to tank Robo and do nothing else. Ruined like 3 kqs for me... -.-

fullback 08-17-2008 06:22 AM

I remember that robo B was the place to be.

Ivramire 08-17-2008 06:31 AM

So, basically what determines Robo's success or failure are the people who manage to get into it, more so than for other KQs. Whether or not there are enough or the right mix of classes and and whether or not you get a group of people who try to kill the boss regardless of actual ability to do so.


Robo isn't really a hard KQ.

Vasu 08-17-2008 08:02 AM

Winning Robo isn't hard...getting Robo's kill is the stupid bit.

MikeyG 08-17-2008 08:09 AM

honeying definetly hardest.

Vasu 08-17-2008 08:13 AM

^ I agree.

Blaaaaaaaah 08-17-2008 08:15 AM

I totally forgot about the existence of Honeying.

MD is also hard. o:

Luna 08-17-2008 08:17 AM

And at the rate I level..By the time I can actually do these kqs, They'll be fully fixed :goaway:

ThEsQuIsHy 08-17-2008 12:56 PM

Robo is pretty difficult if you have people who ruin it, i had 2 kqs where EVERYONE insisted we kill EVERYTHING (impossible b/c robo will spawn mobs around him while fighting, and bc they were a bunch of 33-35?, i was highest lvl in there at 37 mage(got robo kill then bc of all 4x fighter pt :cutielove:))
but other then that, robo kq isnt all that hard, and i agree, honeying is pretty hard :goaway: i failed both of them my first through at lvl 40 mage, but at least its easier to get quest kills bc its only 2 full pts, but inorder to win, they needa co-op and kill efficiently:urweird:

a.L 08-17-2008 01:04 PM

Yes, try Honeying and I dare you to say that Robo is hard. I dare you.

Kyrillos 08-17-2008 04:22 PM

I was awesome in Robobobobobo. I'd sit there and spam mm and burst D=

Drake1 08-17-2008 08:22 PM

My advice,
Don't join A try C or E those work best for me

Hyper 08-17-2008 08:35 PM

MD is 93074861097391238 times harder.

Destrus 08-17-2008 09:14 PM

MD really isn't that hard if you have two tanks, 1 or two to MC, maybe 3 clerics, and the rest cna be damage dealers. the hard part is when the jump bugs and everyone dies <_<

MikeyG 08-17-2008 09:18 PM

MD is easy peasy, when i was with Nakama we were doing Hardcore md
with ease almost everytime we went in. Sometimes wed do it faster
then i do regular md with groups. Imo honeying is harder then MD as wel because honestly have you ever completed it?

Ivramire 08-17-2008 09:22 PM

MD I guess still depends on the luck of the draw.


If you don't get someone who can reliably hold aggro and stay alive, and someone else to draw the mobs that spawn, no matter what everyone else does that KQ is lost. I laugh when I remember how we used to play MDs.

Sero 08-17-2008 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyG (Post 212299)
MD is easy peasy, when i was with Nakama we were doing Hardcore md
with ease almost everytime we went in. Sometimes wed do it faster
then i do regular md with groups. Imo honeying is harder then MD as wel because honestly have you ever completed it?

Yes, even without GL Nei.

Kyrillos 08-18-2008 04:32 AM

Nei is awesome, most of the time.

Blaaaaaaaah 08-18-2008 04:35 AM

I guess it depends. I'm not saying Honeying is harder than MD, only MD is harder than Robo.

Try playing MD with the current generation of players. :goaway:

Kyrillos 08-18-2008 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 212586)
I guess it depends. I'm not saying Honeying is harder than MD, only MD is harder than Robo.

Try playing MD with the current generation of players. :goaway:

You seem, uhm......hmm.....

Very happy with their performance.

cillia 08-18-2008 04:41 AM

now days, you just cant survive robo kq without t3's, hp sp buff and immune, and maybe even a def and hp extender if you want. needs for robo kq are t3 hp, def, and speed. i was once in a almost-failing robo kq. and so what happend was i had all my t3's and buffs. once all of the mobs started coming in the beggining, i used magic burst. all mobs come to me. i start to run cuz all 3 of my clerics in party are to busy fighting.
so here i am, being a hero and running with probably 7 spawns worth of mobs on me. D: the sad thing is i just kept running while every1 else was resting and watching me suffer ._. so i die at about 15:20 with a million mobs on me, and they all go into the room and then the kq fails. i think ill just stop doing robo. i can get just as much or even more exp from quests that take half the time to do. D:
:cries:

Ralath 08-18-2008 05:17 AM

I don't think you need T3 scrolls for Robo.

I just ran the mobs and had enough health to keep healing with T1s on or just a buff.

a.L 08-18-2008 05:23 AM

I used to be able to survive the MD jump with just T1 scrolls. Not anymore.

fullback 08-18-2008 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a.L (Post 212636)
I used to be able to survive the MD jump with just T1 scrolls. Not anymore.

Ya, its near impossible. Did they change its difficulty?

cillia 08-18-2008 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralath (Post 212632)
I don't think you need T3 scrolls for Robo.

I just ran the mobs and had enough health to keep healing with T1s on or just a buff.

on bijou you need t3s T^T
and since when did runners have no clerics? :o that's changed over time T^T i liked when i could be healed while i ran... D:

Hessah 08-18-2008 05:33 AM

Since... forever?

From my experience... runners only gets a cleric if the whole room is under control... which might be the last 2 mins or something...

most of the time clerics are too busy healing / reviving dead people...

did u bring a T1 speed scroll with you? IT'S A MUST!!!

I'm the most awesome mage runner.. only because i've got speed scroll


everyone use to have speed scrolls, or ask for speed scrolls when i played robo half a year ago... nowadays.. no one cared...... and they all die!

Enraya 08-18-2008 05:35 AM

All the KQs are dependant on teamwork first. Unlike grinding, you can't choose which path to take and what to fight and whether to run through or fight; it's already decided.
In order to make a KQ work, you need teamwork and a decent mix of players (a few clerics, two or three tanks, DDs).

So everything is dependant on the players. Whether they're lagging, fully stoned (as in HP/SP stones, not the other stoned >3<), etc.

One of the reasons that Robo is hard is that towards the end of the KQ you need teamwork to be able to pull it off with a few runners and the rest of the people helping each other and killing the ranged mobs. Lots of the successful Robo KQs I've been in is where at first it was hectic, but then everyone took charge and a few started running while the others stood in the middle and picked off the mobs that came, helping everyone.

It's a 3x-4x KQ, so sometimes failure isn't exactly surprising XD They all learn though~ I remember my first Robo KQ, haha. I was lost the entire way @__@

Ivramire 08-18-2008 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cillia (Post 212639)
on bijou you need t3s T^T
and since when did runners have no clerics? :o that's changed over time T^T i liked when i could be healed while i ran... D:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 212640)
Since... forever?

I object. :urweird:


Can't be that long ago, it's common sense to have at least one Cleric on the runner o_o

Blood Raven 08-20-2008 03:31 AM

From my experience with Robo Kq. T3 scrolls are not required but greatly greatly [B]GREATLY[B] help. You can get by with T2 scrolls or T1 scrolls. Speed scrolls are a must though but to be honest nobody in Bijou sells them and nobody actually brings them.

90% of the kqs I have been in, if we don't have a runner then clerics make the best runners till they die. :sad: Clerics are used and abused. But I understand robo kq is really really difficult if people want to actually try the robo.

I remember all the fighters especially one in our group complained that the clerics weren't doing their job of healing. I had a mob of probably 15 and just use my invincible to rez another cleric. While the other 2-3 clerics are fighting or rez'ing. In robo kq you need to understand no matter what class you are. Your going to spend money. Either it is scrolls, stones, or both. There isn't a "free" kq anymore.

So worry about clerics and if people start shouting complaints ignore them. Also Robo kq is a lot harder now because 2-3 people always leach. :goaway: Either help or die.

Which leads me to a question? I want to make a rant about a leacher but I know we aren't suppose to use names to prevent flaming. Is there anyway that I say the leacher's name so that people will hopefully stop partying her. I don't want to flame her but just warn the rest of the innocent victims.

Hraesvelg 08-20-2008 03:37 AM

Back when I used to do Robo T3s weren't really around. I would bring a shield, pop on a T1 shield and speed scroll, then mock the first wave. Sometimes I had a Cleric, sometimes I didn't. The main thing is to focus on the Vivis first, then the archers. Those are the ones that'll take a runner out in no time flat.


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